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One Amp Andy said:
The Game said:
You won't like this 
M6 Traffic Alerts
Last updated by Highways Agency on Fri, 25 Jan 2013 23:46:10 GMT
The M6 northbound entry slip at junction J26 is closed , due to an incident. Road expected to re-open from 3:00 am on 26 January 2013.
The M6 northbound is closed between junctions J25 and J27, due to an incident. Road expected to re-open from 3:00 am on 26 January 2013.
The M6 southbound is closed between junctions J27 and J25, due to an incident. Road expected to re-open from 3:00 am on 26 January 2013.
The M6 northbound exit slip at junction J26 is closed , due to an incident. Road expected to re-open from 3:00 am on 26 January 2013.
Was just going to say, I've had a look on the cameras, and sure enough there is bugger all after J28. OP, I'm not taking the piss now, I'll bring you down a flask if you need a brew, and some toast/ butties. I'm within ten minutes walk if you're at J27.M6 Traffic Alerts
Last updated by Highways Agency on Fri, 25 Jan 2013 23:46:10 GMT
The M6 northbound entry slip at junction J26 is closed , due to an incident. Road expected to re-open from 3:00 am on 26 January 2013.
The M6 northbound is closed between junctions J25 and J27, due to an incident. Road expected to re-open from 3:00 am on 26 January 2013.
The M6 southbound is closed between junctions J27 and J25, due to an incident. Road expected to re-open from 3:00 am on 26 January 2013.
The M6 northbound exit slip at junction J26 is closed , due to an incident. Road expected to re-open from 3:00 am on 26 January 2013.
Hoping to come off at J27 if we can.
The frustrating thing is we did 200 miles from Edinburgh and although it was bad all the way down at least we were moving.
Barbon Star said:
Lancashire as a whole seems to be completely knackered! Shocking forward planning with regards to road treatment round these parts TBH.
Mrs Barbon Star and her mate are currently facing a night sleeping in their car as the M61 just north of Bolton is impassible! Lots of cold and worried people out there.
Hope you get moving quickly, not sure where you're heading to but should you be passing by Chorley/Euxton/Leyland way I'd be more more than happy to top you up with tea or coffee.
That's a serious offer by the way as I'm so furious and worried about the girl that I can't sleep!
PH is great. Thanks for the offer, really kind of you. We stocked up with food and drink in Edinburgh so fingers crossed we'll be OK.Mrs Barbon Star and her mate are currently facing a night sleeping in their car as the M61 just north of Bolton is impassible! Lots of cold and worried people out there.
Hope you get moving quickly, not sure where you're heading to but should you be passing by Chorley/Euxton/Leyland way I'd be more more than happy to top you up with tea or coffee.
That's a serious offer by the way as I'm so furious and worried about the girl that I can't sleep!
Hope your lady gets back safely and in good time.
Not moved here for a while.
One Amp Andy said:
It's just like the films. Always the woman that slips first. Next she'll say," Arse, go on without me, leave me, save yourself."
Seriously, if you can't be arsed going any further, we're about 2 mins drive off the roundabout. You're welcome to crash here. Well, not literally crash, obv.
Seriously, if you can't be arsed going any further, we're about 2 mins drive off the roundabout. You're welcome to crash here. Well, not literally crash, obv.
She's sleeping now.
Will keep you posted.
Thank heavens for Spotify!
Dog Star said:
I decided to come back from Gibraltar for the weekend and my mum and dad picked me up from Manchester airport. They've got a f
k-off big Lancruiser but came for me in the Yaris 
We spent 3.5 hours totally stationary between the Heywood and Rochdale junctions of the M62. Mental. There were a load of people making a snowman in lane 3
In a way I quite enjoyed it - it was an
Interesting experience getting home, that's for sure.
Jeepers that's horrific!k-off big Lancruiser but came for me in the Yaris We spent 3.5 hours totally stationary between the Heywood and Rochdale junctions of the M62. Mental. There were a load of people making a snowman in lane 3
In a way I quite enjoyed it - it was an
Interesting experience getting home, that's for sure.
Just moved a little bit, now about 1/3 mile from J27.
MJK 24 said:
Are people moving now or is the motorway still closed/blocked?
Bit concerning as I've got to use the M6 from junction 21 up to the M65 junction (31?) mid morning! Wondering if I should reschedule?
Just left the M6 at J27. Now sat in a queue about two miles long into Standish. Bit concerning as I've got to use the M6 from junction 21 up to the M65 junction (31?) mid morning! Wondering if I should reschedule?
I would consider a reschedule if I were you!
vladcjelli said:
Puts my, "have to walk half an hour to work for five o clock" into perspective.
Keep your chin up, the M6 is a godforsaken place at the best of times.
Good luck with the rest of your journey.
Cheers. My normal commute is a 12 minute walk!Keep your chin up, the M6 is a godforsaken place at the best of times.
Good luck with the rest of your journey.
Standish was at a stand-still. Abandoned that idea, now queueing to get back on the M6.
Had enough now.
Pvapour said:
bloody hell Arse, I bet the excitement wears off after 6 odd hours 
I just got up early as I'm excited about my work for the day & you've been sat in traffic the whole time I've been asleep!! crazy!
hope you find your way home soon, you heading back down the M6 now?
Cheers. Just on the slip road to get back on at J27. Only need to get to J23 then I can go to bed! I just got up early as I'm excited about my work for the day & you've been sat in traffic the whole time I've been asleep!! crazy!hope you find your way home soon, you heading back down the M6 now?
Pvapour said:
ArsE92 said:
Took us 11 hours but we're home!
Who needs winter tyres?!
Thanks everyone for the company and very kind offers.
Be careful out there.
Goodnight. Erm, good morning.
by the way, it seems you dont actually have tyres fitted, did you know?
And also, that's the nicest sausage and egg McMuffin I've ever tasted!
Right. Bed.
Gafferjim said:
For all on this thread, the motorway had been gritted not long prior to this lot happening, but you only need to get 1 vehicle (HGV or otherwise) stuck & slidding about trying to get going, with other vehicles stopped as drivers tried to assist each other, the snow was really coming down bad, so after a few minutes with no movement of traffic, it just becomes worse and if HGV's try to move, the rear axle on the unit is the drive axle, the wheels spin and start to slide sideways on the path of least resistance, ie towards the H/S or central res, depending on which lane you're in, this makes the HGV jack-knife as you can see from the photos, and there's bugger-all the driver can do about it.
To keep the road running even with grit down, you need a certain amount of traffic running over the c/way to make the salt work, if there's not enough traffic running over the tarmac, then the snow wins, full stop! This is basically what happens, the traffic comes to a halt, the snow is still falling, no-one is going anywhere!
I drove through that at approx 9:15pm on my way to work, but I did have the vehicle to do it in, a fully off-road prepared Discovery. I did stop with a few HGV and managed to straighten a couple up, but no chance of dragging them any further.
Once traffic is blocked, if snow is still falling, there is nothing you can do except close it, and then attempt to get at least one lane open, by either getting vehicles going, or moving them over to allow a way through, once a lane starts to move, you can then get a snow plough /gritter through down that lane, making it even better to run, the gritter will also throw grit to the side into the next lane, and with willing hands and assistance slowly but surely get more lanes running as you free traffic into the running lane. I got to the control room approx 15 minutes late, but once at the desk, never moved all shift, in the 7 years I've been in the job, I've never had a night like it. We had similar problems on the M61, the M57 & the M53, Our afternoon traffic officer shift (HATOs) didn't go home, but worked on throughout the night alongside the nightshift crews until all routes had been reopened, the M6 N/B J26-27 being the last one at around 5am.
It would help if drivers had brains, learn to drive in bad conditions on a deserted car park somewhere, when going out, take extra clothes, wear decent shoes for walking about in the stuff, take a flask, take a spade, if you have any medical conditions, make sure you have some medication with you, charge up your mobile phone, make sure you have more than enough fuel, listen to the local radio for traffic updates, if you see the signals that the c/way is closed, just because there is no-one physically there to stand in front of you, don't enter the motorway past those signals or you'll just be adding to the chaos. If you're stuck in snow in the middle of something like this, unless you have an urgent medical need, don't start calling the Police or us to say that you're stuck, WE KNOW! all you'd be doing is blocking the phone lines up, you'll get moved as soon as people can get the traffic moving etc.
All of the above needed to be learnt by a lot of those drivers last night. We had people run out of fuel, no coats, flatten their batteries sat with headlights on, diabetics with no food, a pensioner with a heart attack (did he REALLY need to travel? hell of a job getting medical help to him!)
If the weather forecast says that bad weather is expected, cancel the journey if you can, if not check the internet, or the HA website, or app.
Well said, and thanks for everything you and your guys did.To keep the road running even with grit down, you need a certain amount of traffic running over the c/way to make the salt work, if there's not enough traffic running over the tarmac, then the snow wins, full stop! This is basically what happens, the traffic comes to a halt, the snow is still falling, no-one is going anywhere!
I drove through that at approx 9:15pm on my way to work, but I did have the vehicle to do it in, a fully off-road prepared Discovery. I did stop with a few HGV and managed to straighten a couple up, but no chance of dragging them any further.
Once traffic is blocked, if snow is still falling, there is nothing you can do except close it, and then attempt to get at least one lane open, by either getting vehicles going, or moving them over to allow a way through, once a lane starts to move, you can then get a snow plough /gritter through down that lane, making it even better to run, the gritter will also throw grit to the side into the next lane, and with willing hands and assistance slowly but surely get more lanes running as you free traffic into the running lane. I got to the control room approx 15 minutes late, but once at the desk, never moved all shift, in the 7 years I've been in the job, I've never had a night like it. We had similar problems on the M61, the M57 & the M53, Our afternoon traffic officer shift (HATOs) didn't go home, but worked on throughout the night alongside the nightshift crews until all routes had been reopened, the M6 N/B J26-27 being the last one at around 5am.
It would help if drivers had brains, learn to drive in bad conditions on a deserted car park somewhere, when going out, take extra clothes, wear decent shoes for walking about in the stuff, take a flask, take a spade, if you have any medical conditions, make sure you have some medication with you, charge up your mobile phone, make sure you have more than enough fuel, listen to the local radio for traffic updates, if you see the signals that the c/way is closed, just because there is no-one physically there to stand in front of you, don't enter the motorway past those signals or you'll just be adding to the chaos. If you're stuck in snow in the middle of something like this, unless you have an urgent medical need, don't start calling the Police or us to say that you're stuck, WE KNOW! all you'd be doing is blocking the phone lines up, you'll get moved as soon as people can get the traffic moving etc.
All of the above needed to be learnt by a lot of those drivers last night. We had people run out of fuel, no coats, flatten their batteries sat with headlights on, diabetics with no food, a pensioner with a heart attack (did he REALLY need to travel? hell of a job getting medical help to him!)
If the weather forecast says that bad weather is expected, cancel the journey if you can, if not check the internet, or the HA website, or app.
Edited by Gafferjim on Saturday 26th January 13:47
In hindsight, I made a poor decision to carry on with the journey when I was still in Edinburgh and Sally-Traffic announced that it was already bad "on the M6 through Cumbria". I should have turned around, gone to the pub, and either got the train down this morning or drove.
Anyway, I've been out today and had some fun with DSC off, so I love snow again
ben_h100 said:
ArsE92 said:
Cheers Barbon.
Mountain Rescue guys are here checking everyone is OK.
Did you note which MR team? Probably not the first thing on your mind, but interested if you know.Mountain Rescue guys are here checking everyone is OK.
s p a c e m a n said:
Yep, that was the one!Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff