RE: Ariel Atom titanium chassis new details

RE: Ariel Atom titanium chassis new details

Friday 10th January 2014

Ariel Atom titanium chassis new details

What, you thought Ariel would let Zenos hog all the headlines at Autosport?



It was back in April when news first surfaced of an Ariel Atom with a titanium chassis. It's been a little quiet since then but the guys at Ariel have revealed its first titanium prototype at the Autosport show.

Titanium road car will be NA like Mugen
Titanium road car will be NA like Mugen
Using titanium saves 40 per cent from the weight of the chassis and around seven per cent from the overall kerb weight. But aside from that and the complex construction methods required, we didn't know any more about this fascinating project as a road car.

With the Autosport reveal and a quick chat with Simon Saunders, there's more to tell. And it's very exciting. Though still very much in the development stages, Ariel is planning a limited run of around 5-10 cars (similarly to the Mugen) with the titanium chassis. Moreover, the lightweight ethos of the construction will extend throughout the car to create a super slight Atom.

Ariel is in discussions with a supplier for a titanium exhaust which would save further precious kilos, and it would use magnesium wheels too. For fear of 'ending up with an F1 car' that his customers wouldn't want, the tiny weight advantages of using titanium for the fasteners and hubs won't be used according to Simon.

However the car will be naturally aspirated, again on weight grounds. Again like the Mugen though, it will be close to the supercharged models on power. This is the titanium car's current development stage as Ariel work out the best way to achieve this.

As more information from Ariel is available, we'll be sure to keep you updated.

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WMP

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Friday 10th January 2014
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7% off the kerb weight, worth the bother?

Would even Colin Chapman go to such extraordinary lengths (and costs) for that? I personally doubt it, he would probably look to carbon fibre like every other engineer.

Even in the very weight conscious world of cycling titanium is rarely used for frames.

WMP

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Friday 10th January 2014
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mrmr96 said:
WMP said:
7% off the kerb weight, worth the bother?
7% better power to weight
7% better acceleration
7% better cornering
7% better braking
etc

Yeah, it's better than adding more power because it affects ALL aspects of handling.
I don't think your maths add up, whilst the power to weight ratio may be directly proportional to weight loss the other factors (acceleration/cornering/braking) have different variables affecting them which will result in a less than 7% improvement.

Don't get me wrong, I can see the attraction but my point was/is that the huge cost in achieving such a small weight loss does not really seem worth it especially when there are better methods of achieving the same result. Maybe I am missing the point.