Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

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My first guess is that I am not their target audience?

But I have tried to view these youtube channels and i just don't get the 'buzz'.

They originally started as spotters of supercars in and around London and did a fine job of putting the London scene onto a laptop/international audience but they have failed to progress. They drive fast cars and in many cases own them but they are not insightful or controversial. They make the idea of owning a supercar fking boring. Tedious videos of drives into London or inane ste spouted into camera in a traffic jam.

Sorry to diss the youth of today but ........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ClPFl_wC-k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTBXDBbeRbs

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https://youtu.be/xUP6rifWNlU

A vlogger who has a more genuine answer to the inevitable question?

As for his insight into trading cars he really does hit the nail on the head. Any bugger can sell a car but it is the buying them where the profit is made. I have made money out of buying and selling cars but I only do it rarely as it is very hard to source them.

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Shmee said:

Finding somebody to do "YouTube" well is much harder than it sounds. For example yes it's all well and good to have a wonderful knowledge of cars and how they work, but if you don't know the first thing about the internet and marketing the content you have then good luck! Succeeding on YouTube is as much about running the business as it is knowing the facts, and while I try and do everything to the best of my ability, clearly I know more about the business than the cars. Stats and specs I can real off with no problem but it needs experience to understand the technical side and that will come with time. In efforts to avoid negative feedback I don't endeavour to review cars, I just try to share my first impressions and experiences how I live them. For the vast majority of the audience this is clearly the right kind of content but I will always appreciate that for people even like me, it's not enough!

To compare this, if Top Gear was a pure car show (a-la Fifth Gear), do you think it would have anything like the audience? Or let's say the audience it did have last year! Basically there aren't enough car folks out there to sustain that and the ones that are will find what they want via Petrolicious, Jay Leno, the magazine videos etc. If I tried to be more nerdy about cars, my audience would decline and obviously that's not what I want, or what the majority of my viewers clearly want!

Boom......

Fair play to the man that is a great response.

I watch your videos Schmee and I just don't get them but at over 40 I am not a typical subscriber and yet what you do is very successful in terms of 'views'. I have no idea if it is financially a great vocation but there is no doubt you are getting the audience many could only dream about.

Well played !

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I just watched this tonight and have no idea if he is accurate with his figures but I bet he is closer to the truth than many youngsters might believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipnSt8cmEC4

Yikes !

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My best guess for Shmee is that he now has access to his fathers credit card and that explains the proliferation of expensive cars, or the new world of media is giving him access (long term rentals) to some highly desirable cars.

Unfortunately the one thing I now highly doubt is he bought any of these cars with his own genuinely acquired income !

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocb1ewghHq0&t=...

At somewhere around the 6 min mark this bell end reads out the spec list of his car and announces that his cruise control has automatic braking. He concludes from that, it will remain a safe distance from the car ahead of him.

Please god tell me I am not the driver of the car in front when he tries this feature..........

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alec.e said:

jjr1 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocb1ewghHq0&t=...

At somewhere around the 6 min mark this bell end reads out the spec list of his car and announces that his cruise control has automatic braking. He concludes from that, it will remain a safe distance from the car ahead of him.

Please god tell me I am not the driver of the car in front when he tries this feature..........

Is that not the point of Adaptive cruise, it maintains a safe distance with the car infront? Does on mine.

He is confusing the BMW cruise control with braking function (for not exceeding a pre governed speed when going downhill) with adaptive cruise control, which has the autonomous braking function for vehicles ahead.

His car won't brake when it reaches a car a few feet ahead !

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Also very interesting is that Casey Neistat and that tweety fella are giving up vlogging?

The days are numbered for these SOL and SHmee fellas if the genuine celebs on Youtube can't keep it up

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As if it could not get any worse I watched this tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvaU6ETXAtA

Follows a Mercedes G500 around the streets and talks about performance whilst being overtaken by a Toyota Yaris and every other fking cab driver within 10 miles. If this is the future of car journalism it is not 'awesome' it is just 'ste'.

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Shmee said:

jjr1 said:

As if it could not get any worse I watched this tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvaU6ETXAtA

Follows a Mercedes G500 around the streets and talks about performance whilst being overtaken by a Toyota Yaris and every other fking cab driver within 10 miles. If this is the future of car journalism it is not 'awesome' it is just 'ste'.

I'm getting bored of saying I'm not a journalist. This video is sharing an experience and 120,000 people have watched it in 7 hours so clearly there's some interest there.

You very specifically are not the target audience, so why are you wasting your time watching it?

A very pertinent question.

I do not subscribe to your channel but Youtube throws up a series of suggestions for videos I may be interested in. Yours is one of those suggestions. I love cars and most importantly supercars/sportscars. Over the years I have watched and enjoyed various Youtube newcomers and given the opportunity to watch a new video on a Bugatti Veyron, I thought I would click on yours.

I can not in anyway argue with your viewing figures or success with regard to that but the fact you frequent PH makes me wonder if you secretly harbour a desire to be recognised as an authority rather than a clickbaiter?

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Shmee said:

jjr1 said:

I can not in anyway argue with your viewing figures or success with regard to that but the fact you frequent PH makes me wonder if you secretly harbour a desire to be recognised as an authority rather than a clickbaiter?

To be honest as you can see from my post count/time, I was posting on PH before YouTube existed in its current form, and many years before I even uploaded a video. The reality is that if I created content now that was what PH users wanted to see, the view count would be so small that the model wouldn't work as a business and therefore I wouldn't be doing it at all. Bit of a catch-22!

I can't counter argue with that sort of honesty........

Joseph Heller has a lot to answer for.

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SOL now 'buying' another Lambo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1b7zEOzSkc&t=...


This video throws up some very interesting questions for me.

Why does Tony hang around? How is he making money from this? http://www.gravelwood.co.uk

All those kids who turned up and greeted him like a celebrity? is this the same as me, meeting Valentino Rossi?

Why are Lamborghini so excited by this press? Are they really going to even sell one more car because of this video?

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First Sol (Supercars of London) needs to sell up and now STG (Seen through glass) is selling the McLaren and the Abarth.

Financial common sense is kicking in !

Edited by jjr1 on Tuesday 25th July 16:08

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red_slr said:

Anyone who really thinks Shmee, JWW, TGE, STG cant afford their cars are living in la-la land. They don't sit up at night worrying about finance payments.

Yes I am sure at some point youtube will die off and they will all go and do something else, or not... they don't really have that worry or they would not have left their jobs to "do youtube" as a "business". (no disrespect to anyone).

Wrong about STG. He definitely does have to worry about finance payments as his last video shows. The rest are minted and I agree finance payments are not a problem.

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numtumfutunch said:

TobyTR said:

Keep thinking that, if it makes you feel better buddy.

But lets get real here; how else would an 18-year-old fresh from his A-Level exams obtain a significant amount of capital to start a retail business at that age, from scratch?...

It's not jealousy - for those that can't read pre-GCSE scansion, read my previous posts; I admire anyone who has the gumption & funds to pull the trigger on any supercar. Respect from one petrolhead to another.

However, as others have stated on this thread previously - It's about being honest with your audience if you choose to put yourself out in the public domain like that. No more bs. Be true to yourself.

Ultimately it comes down to if you buy into it or not...

Its all freely available online if you can be bothered to look

He left school at 18 and set himself up as an electronics retailer in central London, made a fair bit of money and then took time off to travel and work as a ski instructor

When he returned he got a job in the city and made enough money HIMSELF to fund a lifestyle giving him sufficient free time for access to the supercar scene in London and the rest is history

Clear??

Got a job in the City?

What job?

There seems to be a fairly misunderstood assumption that getting a job in the City makes you rich. What did he actually do in the City?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fbEkINGGzE&t=...

'I just want to learn how to be a professional drifter'

This is going to enhance how a viewer will understand a cars dynamics, its behaviour on the limit etc etc?

Sweet Jesus Chris Harris is safe.....

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I do find TGE funny and a more natural entertainer than some of the more obvious Youtube stars but his latest upload just sums up this genre.

They don't really give a fk about a cars performance or handling, they literally just want the badge and the kudos of circling a roundabout a few times


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz476umB68E&t=...

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TheAngryDog said:

Utter ste.

Great retort