No such Thing as a slow car

[chaz1234]

Sick of posts saying certain cars are slow No car is slow It is the driver that is slow. Normally people who complain that a car is slow are in the wrong gear for the situation A good driver in a slow car on b roads can easily keep up with a bad driver in a fast car. all uk cars can easily do 70mph on a b road that is more than enough. I have 2 vehicles a peugeot partner van diesal and a ford ka 1.3 petrol where I live there is no motorways and not once Have I been unable to keep up with so called faster cars. Sure if there is a long straight they may pull away a bit but next corner I will be back on there tail and overtake them using the momentum I have saved from less braking during corner. Then if another very long straight comes up they will overtake me but at the next set of bends or traffic lights I will be up with them. When people realize the fastest modification anyone can make to a car is the driver people may stop Spending silly money getting cars remapped or chipping them. for no real world performance gains. I guess I am gonna get alot of hate replies to this from the people who cant drive fast and love the bragging rights of saying there car has so many bhp. But in reality if you take the time to reply to this thread It will prove there are some serious ego issues there.

[chaz1234]

Thanks for all the interesting replies to this thread It does seem some people agree with my point. I can put up with people saying my french van is gutless and my ford ka is slow. I love them and would rather own economical cars and live in a 500k house than paying for a seriously fast car that would be no faster on my daily drives. But if some people would prefer to live in a smaller cheaper house and have a fast car fairplay. It`s all about what is important to you in life. If having a very fast car gives you a good feeling and is worth the money there is nothing wrong with that. It just annoys me when people say cars are slow when they are not. A not so distant memory of a car being called slow was by the tt chris evans who failed at top gear. He was talking about the vw passat in his newspaper article he stated it was a good car but very slow. This car would do 130mph and 0-60 in 8 seconds. The reason he found it slow is because he did not understand how to drive a turbo diesel. He was constantly redlining it and not changing gear to match the torque curves. He reviewed a slower petrol car and described it as quick alfa mito. I will be back in a few months to read the laughable comments that people have posted in response to this thread.

[chaz1234]

blueg33 said:

My take is that Op has self esteem issues because his car isn't that great and he has tried to bolster his esteem by stating that he is a better driver than everyone else and therefore doesn't need a car he cant afford.

I will just re quote this because it`s interesting you Mentioned it First of all I never said I am a better driver than anyone else. I am a st driver I would like to be a good driver but can`t really be bothered to get better. I have had no accidents in 7 years of driving and am safe not the quickest. Self esteem issues? Interested you Mentioned that is that something you suffer with? I personally don`t Hence why I am rarely here posting anything. This place is like a bullstters paradise people claiming bhp figures showing off how fast there cars are. And generally talking st. One person jumps on saying a car is slow everyone else joins in even if they have no personal experience of that car. Oh an for all the punctuation and capital letter police Good luck in life if that is all you can contribute to the discussion I am sure you all lead very interesting lives.

[chaz1234]

And too all the people who agreed with my first point thankyou for not jumping On the bandwagon and starting a tirade of abuse against people who drive slower cars. I do agree with some points I could have worded and phrased my first post better. But Now I realize 60% of people are saying its more about the car than the driver on twisty b roads. I will be back in a few months Look forward to the clever and strange responses this thread will receive I wish I had the time to check this every day But unfortunately I have a Life away from the internet. And Piston heads is my lowest priority in life. Later Lads.

[chaz1234]

blueg33 said:

Op. The secret is dont post dumb crap that mskes no sense, re read your first post objectively. Basically, you are bigging up your driving, You come across as saying "i am so good i make my low power shopping trolley go like a supercar and other drivers are slower than me."

The whole premise of your post was flawed and said "look at me, i am a driving god". Whether thats what you meant or not, its how many people took it.

I do agree that a good driver can make a car go better than you may expect, but slow is a relative term, place a good driver in a Ka and ask him to drive at 100% and then put the same driver in a Ferrari 488 and ask him to drive at 70%. I can guarantee that anywhere other than a narrow country lane or a car park the Ka will be a slow car in comparison with the Ferrari.

Edited by blueg33 on Wednesday 7th September 09:30

Very Good point after re reading my first point I can see why negativity came my way. I am a poor driver. I do not take any risks. My original post was aimed at the people who take the mickey out of so called slow cars. I should have worded it better.

[chaz1234]

jamieduff1981 said:

chaz1234 said:

I will just re quote this because it`s interesting you Mentioned it First of all I never said I am a better driver than anyone else. I am a st driver I would like to be a good driver but can`t really be bothered to get better. I have had no accidents in 7 years of driving and am safe not the quickest. Self esteem issues? Interested you Mentioned that is that something you suffer with? I personally don`t Hence why I am rarely here posting anything. This place is like a bullstters paradise people claiming bhp figures showing off how fast there cars are. And generally talking st. One person jumps on saying a car is slow everyone else joins in even if they have no personal experience of that car. Oh an for all the punctuation and capital letter police Good luck in life if that is all you can contribute to the discussion I am sure you all lead very interesting lives.

7 years accident free huh? Good for you, really, because your command of written English makes you sound like you drive like a cock. My house isn't worth £500k (is yours?) but we each make our choices. Cars are worth broadly the same figure like-for-like up and down the UK but for a lot less than £500k I have a house of very comfortable size, with a 75ft shed for tinkering in, more land than I can fully maintain and a hilltop location with a view of around 25 miles from the glass gable end living room window in a quiet part of Scotland which I love. That seems better value to me than paying £500k for some generic Lego brick house in a midlands housing estate or a studio flat in a rougher part of London but hey - each to their own etc.

FWIW, I have around 40,000 miles in high performance RWD cars and probably 300,000 miles altogether in vehicles of above average performance. I have had a clean licence all the while I've had the high performance cars and never had more than one SP30 at a time - which I gained two of in series in my 20s. My only accident was achieved when I was 21 years old, on a back road, driving a slow car too fast.

Quick cars can be driven briskly on public roads with substantial margins for safety on cornering and braking. It's up to the driver to ensure he/she makes suitable provision for other traffic or uncertainties on the road itself. Anyone keeping up in a slow car is pushing their car that much harder, and has a great deal left in their back pocket. I learned that when I was 21. It sounds like you (and to be fair, many others) haven't learned that yet.

Won`t go Into huge detail on this reply fear of spelling or grammer police. Will answer one question Yes I do own a 500k house. I am actually very poor in terms of money in bank. But house is a investment for my children. As for pushing a slow car to its limits. I do totally agree with you But if we look at the stopping distances printed in current highway code they are based on a ford anglia with crossply tyres.

[chaz1234]

Quick Reply. Thanks for some of the positive comments. Only comment I feel like replying to is the you own a 500k house and drive a ford ka you must be mortgaged up to the eyeballs. House is fully paid for. Have a small interest only 20k re morgage., So Now why do I drive a ford Ka and own a expensive. house It`s simple really Money is hard to come by and I don`t want to spend it on expensive cars and petrol. The reason I rarely post here Is because I spend time in south america supporting a football team I have a interest in. Regarding negative comments on this Thread keep going we all enjoy it

On a personal Note @speed addicted I am not rich with money in my bank. I have more than enough money to live well on I could drive a expensive car and have spare money. However I prefer to spend my money on other things that give me more pleasure than a fast car that will not get me from one place to another faster in the real world. If having a fast car gives you more enjoyment than other things in life and you do racing track days That`s great But for me I have other sporting interests that give me more pleasure. Each to there own.

Edited by chaz1234 on Thursday 27th April 03:19

[chaz1234]

Quick Return Last day on Uk soil. Thanks for all the replies Some genuine comments. Some funny ones. I do own my own house and have paid for it I did have a interest only mortgage but cerro porteno results have improved and have paid that off. I Probably wont be back here for a few months. However I Look forward to my return where the comments about The op`s mental health have increased as I am sure they will. Mostly the negative posts have been interesting But several of those posters have also hinted at mental health issues Interesting really. Maybe a theme developing here? Anyway I will be back in 7 months and check into this forum.

Bye for now Guys and girls

[chaz1234]

Oh what a joy it is to come back to the uk and read the replies to this thread. The new fangled internet thing is available to me if I wish to have it. But here many people have no interest in it. Me driving a slow car and still no actually genuine comment explaining why a car is slow when speed limit in uk is 70mph. And as far as I am aware all cars sold in uk will do 70mph. We also now have the clever person saying I am a contradiction. Best advice I can give you is read through the topic I started from page 1. No more to say now I will be back at Christmas to reply too comments. I don`t use internet abroad. Mainly because I actually enjoy my life more without it. Hopefully that answers some of your attempted smart replies about internet being a new fangled thing abroad.

[chaz1234]

LaDS3arri said:

Op lives in a big house but spends most of the year abroad, he doesn't have Internet access outside of it and drives an old lady car while exclaiming how fast he is. He appears to be the biggest walking contradiction going.

I said I owned a house worth 500k I did not state it was big. You are correct on point 2 I do have internet access if I wanted it but have chosen not to use it. Driving a old lady car that is your view on the car I drive when I am in uk have no interest in debating if the car is a old lady car or not with you. Now I am the biggest contradiction going. As I stated in earlier reply read the topic from page one to the end you will see there is no contradiction let alone the biggest walking contradiction when I drive a car? Walking contradiction. I really do look forward too all the smart replies when I visit the uk and use the internet for 30 minutes. At Christmas for a skype call.

[chaz1234]

Speed addicted said:

70mph may be the speed limit, but where I live there are A roads with overtaking opportunities (you get these in the North) where something like a Ka wouldn't be able to overtake but something like my 645 has the acceleration to get past in a much shorter space.
Even more so on the bike where instant acceleration is available.

So in the slow car you may not be able to go over 35-40 as the old dear in front of you is in the way and you don't have the power to get past. I'll be able to make significantly better progress even traveling at the speed limit.

None of this is likely to apply to you if you live in a city.

Thankyou for the reply to this post I do agree with your points 100% A car with more power is safer for overtaking than a low powered car. And I agree you will make much better progress on busy a roads in a more powerful car due to the safer overtaking ability you have.Your car will also have better brakes to reduce the risk of a collision with another road user. My point in the first post I made is that no car is slow and I stand by that. If only people would have responded in the mannor you did to my post there would be none of this terrible attempted bullying and harsh comments towards my post. Everyone here decided They wanted to make themselves look clever and make offensive replies and abuse me. Expecting me to get involved in a war with them. I walked away and they stopped.

Later on when I returned stating reasons and logically pointing things out they all decided I was mentally ill., I wonder now how many of the people that placed the mentally ill replies are still a member here now. I would be very surprised if any of them are .

Be back at Christmas too check replies Thanks again for a very good reply speed addicted

[chaz1234]

Time to close this topic now. I have no more to add to it. Thanks for all the replies.

[chaz1234]

TooMany2cvs said:

<resurrects four-month-dead topic to say "It's closed now">

Replies to a comment saying the topic is closed with a leading question hoping for more replies to the topic in an attempt to maybe continue the topic. I am replying 4 Months Later in the hope this topic will be locked. There may be more replies I am sure but this topic has been discussed different opinions shared and there is no need for it to remain open.