Used Fiesta ST3 dealer discount?
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Bristol Street Motors seems to have the best deals at the moment.
Looking around £13K for year old sub 10K mile cars.
Awaiting a call back ref. a cost to change. They've already basically said there's not going to be much movement in the car at £13K. Depends on how much they offer in PX I guess.
Looking around £13K for year old sub 10K mile cars.
Awaiting a call back ref. a cost to change. They've already basically said there's not going to be much movement in the car at £13K. Depends on how much they offer in PX I guess.
daemon said:
thenortherner said:
Looks like I'll be selling privately.. they offered £4.3K for mine. We're at least £1.5K adrift for a cost to change on where I'd want to be.
When you say "they" - do you mean the people with the £14K one?Surely its then only a matter of going and buying one at £12.5K and you're £1.5K adrift problem goes away?
The car I got the PX value against is up for £13.4K and it's just under a year old with 6K miles.
But when I'm confident I can at least close a chunk of the gap by selling privately, and still buy a car at £13.4K, why would I chose otherwise? Doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to downgrade what I'm looking for in exchange for a low PX value. And by gap, what I'm referring to is the difference between the PX value and what I think I could get privately.
A bit of patience when it comes to selling the car, maybe a month or two or whatever, will see me get what I I'm after with a cost to change at between £1-2K less...
I'd forgotten how deflating it is buying a new/nearly new car. I saw 4 over the weekend across a few dealers.
Most were 16 plates with 1-8K miles.
The dealer in Wilmslow were beyond rude. I nearly didn't view the car after the first phone call, whereby the salesman was clearly getting irked when I declined interest in the wheels insurance, gap insurance (I'd already told him I was a cash buyer) - he raised his voice when I refused the tyre insurance. Presumably with each time I declined interest in something he could see commission slipping away with each "no". The car wasn't prepped, which I didn't mind as it's at least an honest example, but every panel felt like sandpaper, and there far too many marks for a car of its age. On pointing one out to the salesman, which was deep enough to get a fingernail in, he responded by wetting his finger and rubbing (grit) vigourously into the mark in an attempt to prove it'll come out. Upon him asking what it'd take for me to buy the car, he spoke to his boss in front of me, declined and followed up with 'go buy from elsewhere'. I was pretty stunned at how bad they were. I wasn't even offered a seat upon entering the place, instead being literally ushered out of the door to see a car covered in bird sh*t and 12 months worth of dirt, and general aggression and rudeness to run of the mill questions. I know the dealer's in a nice bit of the world and perhaps they're used to people coming in, paying up and disappearing.
Then on to Birmingham. The dealer was friendly enough and the car was unmarked on the outside. All was promising. Until we open the door to find glass fragments in the sill. The car had likely had its window put through - presumably whilst on the forecourt, a main road in the centre - which wasn't the end of the world. However the door had clearly been opened and closed numerous times with the glass fragments in the sill as there was deep pitting to the paint in the sill and around the seal. The dealer claimed to be unaware of the glass and break in until I pointed it out to them. Who knows.
They had another example with less than 2K miles. This one had a deep scrape to the skirt and surface scuffs on the sills from somebody who presumably wore heels. It was up at £14K and they wouldn't budge a penny.
Then on to another dealer but the car had sold when I got there. They did offer a brand new ST-3 for £17K though and 0% finance, and that's without trying.
I had a quick view around one at a dealer this evening, 5 mins before they were closing, again it's up for £14K with 5K miles. This'll sound daft, but it had wind deflectors on, and perhaps I'd stereotypically thought it'd been owned by an 18 year old and wheelspun the last 5K miles from every traffic light. That said, the front tyres are originally and don't appear to be short of tread.
What struck me with just about every car I viewed is how people have allowed so much damage to occur to a year old car. Does nobody care anymore or take pride in looking after what is, at the end of the day, a lot of money for a single purchase?
I'm starting to think a pre-reg/new one is the way to go, and get my personal loan extended. There are new ones out there for around the £16K mark...
Most were 16 plates with 1-8K miles.
The dealer in Wilmslow were beyond rude. I nearly didn't view the car after the first phone call, whereby the salesman was clearly getting irked when I declined interest in the wheels insurance, gap insurance (I'd already told him I was a cash buyer) - he raised his voice when I refused the tyre insurance. Presumably with each time I declined interest in something he could see commission slipping away with each "no". The car wasn't prepped, which I didn't mind as it's at least an honest example, but every panel felt like sandpaper, and there far too many marks for a car of its age. On pointing one out to the salesman, which was deep enough to get a fingernail in, he responded by wetting his finger and rubbing (grit) vigourously into the mark in an attempt to prove it'll come out. Upon him asking what it'd take for me to buy the car, he spoke to his boss in front of me, declined and followed up with 'go buy from elsewhere'. I was pretty stunned at how bad they were. I wasn't even offered a seat upon entering the place, instead being literally ushered out of the door to see a car covered in bird sh*t and 12 months worth of dirt, and general aggression and rudeness to run of the mill questions. I know the dealer's in a nice bit of the world and perhaps they're used to people coming in, paying up and disappearing.
Then on to Birmingham. The dealer was friendly enough and the car was unmarked on the outside. All was promising. Until we open the door to find glass fragments in the sill. The car had likely had its window put through - presumably whilst on the forecourt, a main road in the centre - which wasn't the end of the world. However the door had clearly been opened and closed numerous times with the glass fragments in the sill as there was deep pitting to the paint in the sill and around the seal. The dealer claimed to be unaware of the glass and break in until I pointed it out to them. Who knows.
They had another example with less than 2K miles. This one had a deep scrape to the skirt and surface scuffs on the sills from somebody who presumably wore heels. It was up at £14K and they wouldn't budge a penny.
Then on to another dealer but the car had sold when I got there. They did offer a brand new ST-3 for £17K though and 0% finance, and that's without trying.
I had a quick view around one at a dealer this evening, 5 mins before they were closing, again it's up for £14K with 5K miles. This'll sound daft, but it had wind deflectors on, and perhaps I'd stereotypically thought it'd been owned by an 18 year old and wheelspun the last 5K miles from every traffic light. That said, the front tyres are originally and don't appear to be short of tread.
What struck me with just about every car I viewed is how people have allowed so much damage to occur to a year old car. Does nobody care anymore or take pride in looking after what is, at the end of the day, a lot of money for a single purchase?
I'm starting to think a pre-reg/new one is the way to go, and get my personal loan extended. There are new ones out there for around the £16K mark...
Yep, aware they're not all going to be like that, but not a good start. As said, people must be happy to buy a year old car with damage which illustrates the car hasn't been looked after.
I'm happy to buy a used one, a year old, with under 10K miles, for around £14K. But I'll buy it based on condition. It'd odd there's so many white 16 plate ST-3s around with such mileage, especially from Bristol Street Motors. They can't be 1 year leases, surely?
I'm a bit loathed to spend £17K on a new one knowing the arse will drop out of the value very quickly. At least with a year old model a chunk of that has already happened.
I'm not on Facebook so can't see that group.
I'll keep searching.
I'm happy to buy a used one, a year old, with under 10K miles, for around £14K. But I'll buy it based on condition. It'd odd there's so many white 16 plate ST-3s around with such mileage, especially from Bristol Street Motors. They can't be 1 year leases, surely?
I'm a bit loathed to spend £17K on a new one knowing the arse will drop out of the value very quickly. At least with a year old model a chunk of that has already happened.
I'm not on Facebook so can't see that group.
I'll keep searching.
daemon said:
thenortherner said:
I've gone ahead and bought a new ST-3. A pre-reg 17 plate with 13 miles on it. Managed to get it for £16.6K.
Result!A Cooper S would be around £20K for something similar.
daemon said:
Yes, its the best in class and a decent price too - a rarity these days.
What colour did you go for?
Dont forget to post pics when you get it!
Will do.What colour did you go for?
Dont forget to post pics when you get it!
I've gone for white. The blue looked good too. But I wasn't interested in red or orange. And the dark wheels/tints on shadow black models didn't sit well. Plus I've never had a white car before!
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