Dealer sold me modified car without my knowledge
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Hi,
I bought a car from a dealer on Monday, a 2006 350z, and I had the car checked out by a mechanic today for ease of mind.
My mechanic has checked it over, and it turns out that the exhaust is a generic eBay exhaust from China, it is definitely not OEM. Obviously I cannot have known this when buying, without access to the car on a ramp.
Also, the alloys were in a non standard colour, I knew this when I bought it, but the dealer made no mention that they were non standard.
I have insured the car with direct line, who do not allow modifications, so for the past week I've not been insured properly because of the dealer failing to notify me of the modifications.
Because of the dealer failing to describe the car properly, I do not trust him and I have lost confidence in the car. As I understand, the Consumer Rights Act 2015 states that the car has to be as described. He did not describe the car to me accurately, so am I within my rights to reject it?
I bought a car from a dealer on Monday, a 2006 350z, and I had the car checked out by a mechanic today for ease of mind.
My mechanic has checked it over, and it turns out that the exhaust is a generic eBay exhaust from China, it is definitely not OEM. Obviously I cannot have known this when buying, without access to the car on a ramp.
Also, the alloys were in a non standard colour, I knew this when I bought it, but the dealer made no mention that they were non standard.
I have insured the car with direct line, who do not allow modifications, so for the past week I've not been insured properly because of the dealer failing to notify me of the modifications.
Because of the dealer failing to describe the car properly, I do not trust him and I have lost confidence in the car. As I understand, the Consumer Rights Act 2015 states that the car has to be as described. He did not describe the car to me accurately, so am I within my rights to reject it?
shakotan said:
By 'modified' exhaust, you mean it's a performance exhaust, or it's a 'generic' copy of the Nissan exhaust?
If the latter, it doesn't count as a modification, you can replace factory parts with pattern and the car still remains 'stock'.
I'd also challenge your thoughts on the stock wheels being painted a different colour as 'modified' also.
So no, I don't think you are in a position to challenge the dealer, pending the exhaust situation, and neither do I think your car is classed as 'modified'.
I don't think it's performance, it sounds standard compared to clips on YouTube of the standard exhaust. But my mechanic mentioned the shoddy welds.If the latter, it doesn't count as a modification, you can replace factory parts with pattern and the car still remains 'stock'.
I'd also challenge your thoughts on the stock wheels being painted a different colour as 'modified' also.
So no, I don't think you are in a position to challenge the dealer, pending the exhaust situation, and neither do I think your car is classed as 'modified'.
The wheels painted different is definitely a mod, same as painting the car, or wrapping it surely?
Amused2death said:
Many cars are run with non genuine parts, this doesn't mean they are modified.
If the alloys weren't available as a stand fit option then they could be classified as a "modification". I doubt standard alloys sprayed a different colour would come under that classification. Many people get their alloy's refurbished and doing this wouldn't invalidate their insurance.
If I paint my car white, it's a modification. Might be more appealing to thieves etc If the alloys weren't available as a stand fit option then they could be classified as a "modification". I doubt standard alloys sprayed a different colour would come under that classification. Many people get their alloy's refurbished and doing this wouldn't invalidate their insurance.
valiant said:
If the wheels were painted differently then why did you buy the car if you knew it would affect your insurance!!
Did you not see the pictures or use your eyes when looking around??
Sounds like you bought it first and got an insurance quote second and now want out.
Buy a second hand set of wheels and move on ffs and next time you buy a car, take your guide dog with you.
I admit I got carried away when test driving it and put a deposit down there and then. Did you not see the pictures or use your eyes when looking around??
Sounds like you bought it first and got an insurance quote second and now want out.
Buy a second hand set of wheels and move on ffs and next time you buy a car, take your guide dog with you.
I knew the wheels were a different colour already you mug. Did the dealer tell me this? No. How is a standard Joe Bloggs meant to know what OEM wheel colours are? It's the dealers responsibility to tell me this, otherwise anytime anyone buys a car, they'd have to round to each body panel and ask if it's standard or not.
Benengo said:
i wouldn't take a £1000 bath by returning it to the dealer if i was him. professionally refurbishing the wheels to the original colour plus a stock exhaust from a main dealer wouldn't cost anywhere near a grand.... that is of course unless the OP has another reason for no longer wanting the car?
It's a POSI love how every post I make, the same old curtain twitchers and hand wringers turn up 2 seconds later to inform everyone of my previously deleted threads (deleted due to the unwarranted abuse I was getting, might I add). Ok so you might not agree with my course of action, but there's no need to call me every name under the sun.
Also it wasn't just a drag race we had, we went on country roads too. And it's not the only reason I want rid, yet everyone is clinging on to this minor detail. I already suspected that I'd find the car slow due to its N/A nature.
The thread about 'cancelling DVLA change of registered keeper' wasn't so I could force the car back into the dealers hands, it was so I could make matters easier for the dealer if the number of registered keepers stays the same.
FACTS - The car has been modified beyond OEM spec. I am not covered by my insurance in the case of an accident. All I'm asking is for the dealer to add £250 on to the repurchase price of the car now, as a 'goodwill gesture' if you will. If I kept the car, it would have cost him £250 to refurb the wheels anyway because the car wasn't as described.
I'd appreciate it if all future replies didn't involve cussing me out - I can't see how you can point at my age and my apparent lack of maturity whilst dishing out playground insults yourself. And I bet some of you are drawing your pension!
Also it wasn't just a drag race we had, we went on country roads too. And it's not the only reason I want rid, yet everyone is clinging on to this minor detail. I already suspected that I'd find the car slow due to its N/A nature.
The thread about 'cancelling DVLA change of registered keeper' wasn't so I could force the car back into the dealers hands, it was so I could make matters easier for the dealer if the number of registered keepers stays the same.
FACTS - The car has been modified beyond OEM spec. I am not covered by my insurance in the case of an accident. All I'm asking is for the dealer to add £250 on to the repurchase price of the car now, as a 'goodwill gesture' if you will. If I kept the car, it would have cost him £250 to refurb the wheels anyway because the car wasn't as described.
I'd appreciate it if all future replies didn't involve cussing me out - I can't see how you can point at my age and my apparent lack of maturity whilst dishing out playground insults yourself. And I bet some of you are drawing your pension!
ked it up for everyone else hornetrider said:
Based on a pattern exhaust and different colour wheels? Which insurance company is this? Have you had this confirmed? Did they quote you extra to cover the coloured wheels? What is the wheel colour now - can we have pics?
Direct Line. The policy assumptions say that the car is not modified in any way. I'm not calling them up to ask a quote because:A) They might not insure me for ANY modifications
B) If I don't declare the mod, but enquire about it, they will have it on record and might use it as ammo if God forbid I do crash before giving the car back
No I'm not giving pics or mentioning the colour because someone will find the car online and tell the dealer. I had such threats in the last thread which is why I got it deleted
Im not mentioning any colour - of the car or the wheels, because there's very few 350z for sale as it is. I don't know where else he advertised it and it wouldn't be hard for someone to find it and tell the dealer. I've seen how these sleuthing threads go in the past. The last thing I want is a car that I take a massive financial hit on because of pistonheads
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