Saturday 8th July 2017

Peugeot 308 GTI: Driven

A new bumper and freshened up interior you say? To Ascari!

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If you're thinking this looks quite a lot like the old Peugeot 308 GTI, then you're not wrong - to all intents and purposes this is ostensibly the same 308 GTI. OK, so the bumpers have been freshened up, the infotainment updated and the safety kit list bolstered, but the bits we care about have remained untouched.

By and large, this is a very good thing. This is probably the lightest C-segment hot hatch around at 1,280kg (with a driver and all fluids) plus, with the removal of the 250 model from the UK, the only 308 GTI you can now buy comes with 270hp, 380mm front discs and a standard Torsen limited-slip differential.

GTIt's me! Again...
So why drive it now, if so little has changed? Well, you don't pass up opportunities to drive at Ascari - particularly with the original test having taken place on an unfamiliar track - and the market has changed significantly since the 308 was first introduced. The VW Golf GTI has been refreshed, the Honda Civic Type R is new and the SEAT Leon Cupra is now 300hp strong, to name just three.

Even before you set off, there's no doubt that this remains a hot hatch more at the Golf end of the spectrum than the Civic. The seats are supportive but quite squishy, and the dash seemingly more focused on plushness (which it does very well) than performance. And yes, the tiny steering wheel remains.

Don't dismiss the 308 however, as this is a cracking hot hatch. No, seriously. It's easily more entertaining than a Golf GTI on circuit, and just a few tweaks away from being superb.

Lightweighting
The weight, or lack thereof, predictably makes itself noticeable immediately. Combined with really direct steering the 308 darts into every apex, eager and agile from the off. The car can keep up too, following the front end through precisely and giving you the confidence to try a bit more entry speed next time around...

It can take that too, the Michelin Pilot Super Sports offering up strong grip and the car's turn in balance pleasingly neutral. Obviously if you pile in too hot it will understeer, though the limits are admirably high. And that famed Peugeot hot hatch oversteer? Well the ESC never went beyond sport mode - probably best, given previous experience - but there's clearly scope to adjust the line just subtly with the brakes and the throttle. And, well, you can't be Scandinavian flicking on a track day, can you? Certainly though, it's more immersive than the rather plain exterior might lead you to believe.

The brakes, while a bit softer underfoot than you might like, are super strong and have great staying power, resisting fade incredibly well. The damping - without configurability, don't forget - feels great, supple enough to use kerbs yet with great control too. The gear ratios are stacked close together so, while the shift isn't the best around, it feels urgent and willing on track. Remember as well that this is making 270hp from just 1.6-litres, which remains some achievement. Never on track did it feel lacking, either out of the slower hairpins or pulling fourth and fifth gear through the quicker stuff.

Of course there are some downsides though. That engine, while good, doesn't feel as remarkable as it did a few years ago. While it didn't struggle, there's an impression the EA888 2.0-litre in the VW cars would be hauling more strongly from even fewer revs; in addition, a Civic Type R will not only be quicker, but it's a keener, revvier engine.

Difference of opinion
What a shame the Torsen limited-slip diff couldn't have been wound up just a bit tighter. It never gives you the confidence under power that the best front-wheel drive cars with them do, the line tightening modest and the front washing out a tad. Indeed while the Peugeot's front axle responds quicker than a VAQ-equipped car from VW, those cars actually can deliver better traction once hooked up. Strange. Certainly compared to a Civic the Peugeot's diff feels to be doing very little.

And the steering, that source of much consternation for so long now? On track it's not an issue, the quick rack meaning reduced arm twirling and the small wheel less frustrating because - let's be honest - you're probably concentrating on other things. At least the sense of agility implied by the wheel carries through to the handling. And yes, it would be nice to know a bit more about what the front tyres are doing, but can you remember a recent hot hatch with truly good steering?

So yes, while this is a test of a road car with no road driving in it, that's no bad thing. The 308 GTI is a far more capable and interesting track car than you might have expected and, while not as fresh as some of the opposition, is absolutely worthy of consideration in this sector. It's more fun than a Golf, more subtle than a Civic and, well, more available than a Megane - that should be a fascinating comparison when the five-door only Renault Sport arrives later this year. For now it continues to deliver an intriguing alternative to the rest, and comes highly recommended.

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PEUGEOT 308 GTI 270
Engine: 1,598cc, four-cylinder turbo 
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 270@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 243@1,900-5,500rpm
0-62mph: 6.0sec
Top Speed: 155mph
Weight: 1,280kg (including driver and fluids)
MPG: 39.2
CO2: 139g/km
Price: £29,405

[SuperBaaaad]

£30k for a Peugeot 308?

270bhp or not, they are having a laugh.

Wait 2 years and buy a used one for £15k.

[SuperBaaaad]

jonosterman said:

SuperBaaaad said:

£30k for a Peugeot 308?

270bhp or not, they are having a laugh.

Wait 2 years and buy a used one for £15k.

Ah pistonheads.... delete as appropriate:

£30k for a <Peugeot 308 | Golf | Focus | Civic>?

<270bhp | 306bhp | 345bhp | 306bhp> or not, they are having a laugh.

Wait 2 years and buy a used one for £15k


Things cost more than they used to. It's in the same ballpark as all the other high powered hot hatches.

EDIT: and you'll presumably get a reasonably discount on list as you would with most of the others anyway.

Edited by jonosterman on Thursday 6th July 11:03

I'd still love to know who would buy one over say, an S3, which is a mere £3k more.

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GTEYE said:

Jimmy Recard said:

SuperBaaaad said:

£30k for a Peugeot 308?

270bhp or not, they are having a laugh.

Wait 2 years and buy a used one for £15k.

You're saying that cars depreciate between buying them and reaching two years old.

Are you sure? Do you have any evidence?

I've never heard that before, I'm not sure I believe it

Yes, cars depreciate.

The point is that you would be committing financial suicide to buy one new, even at a discount.

A quick search on Autotrader shows low mileage year old examples at £15-16k retail from Peugeot dealers....which knocks down to about £13-14k trade.

That's not a wise new purchase.

Thank you. Someone who speaks sense.

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Ray_Aber said:

SuperBaaaad said:

I'd still love to know who would buy one over say, an S3, which is a mere £3k more.

2. It handles rather better than the Audi (as a car type; I cannot comment on the hot versions of both)

3. Its interior is just as nice as the Audi - and a lot less infuriating to use (apart from the infotainment; Audi is light years ahead)

It won't handle better than a 4WD S3, sorry, and if you think that the interior is as nice as that of an S3, then you're on another planet.