Honda Civic - 1.8 i-VTEC or 2.2 i CTDi?

Honda Civic - 1.8 i-VTEC or 2.2 i CTDi?

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alexlane989

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Looking at a 2006 - 2010 Honda Civic, which engine would people recommend and why?

They both have about 140 bhp, only thing I've heard about the two is, the diesel is more economical and has more tuning posibbilities, i.e. remap?

alexlane989

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AB57 said:
I'll be interested in people's opinions as well as I'm trying to decide whether to go for the 1.8 or the Type R.

The 1.8 is meant to be very good and from what I've read very efficient. The diesel would only make sense if you're doing a lot of miles.
is the diesel not also faster?

Edited by alexlane989 on Sunday 23 July 09:15

alexlane989

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Harrison-91xcg said:
Depends on what you are going to use it for ?

We use ours as them holiday car (massive boot on these) and also the caravan tow car, thus the 2.2 is great for us.

I don't think the 1.8 would work as well for us.

However down a fast b road on my own I'd always pick the petrol. The chassis feels quite capable but it's ruined by the diesel in our car.
I was thinking if I got the diesel, remapping it to 200 bhp

alexlane989

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AB57 said:
Well pointed out. Is it a family car Alex or something you'll just be driving? What sort of journeys are you doing?
Was looking to daily it and want something with a bit of go when I put my foot down, also looking to tune it/remap it

alexlane989

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jackh707 said:
Had a 2x 2.2 diesels and an early one a late one and a facelift type r.

Diesel is a really good engine, faster on the move than the "140" you'd expect.

Real big slug of low down torque but spins up very freely too, runs out of puff early.
We had the clutch start to slip on one and got rid. As an everyday/ A road/ motorway car very very good and plenty quick enough across country.

The type r on the other hand wasn't as quick unless you were using the upper half of the rev range and is crashy with terrible road noise however it is a "proper drivers car" when you are on it and I loved mine.
Feels more special than the standard car but quite tiring if you aren't game to stir the gearbox and use the revs.

Can average 33mpg on a run, 29 mixed driving.

The 1.8 I've driven not owned, it's a sweet little engine that does like to rev, and is a good compromise between the 2.

I sold mine to get a 320d after my commute went up to 50miles a day, I do miss the type r but 90% of the time the 3 series is quicker and overall a much "better car" for eveday driving.

Drive them both, and they all sound like spcaeships, I'm not sure why.
Only 19 so could afford insurance on a type R, just thinking if when tuned I can get more power out of a diesel or petrol

alexlane989

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HustleRussell said:
Yes, you can get more power out of the diesel. The trade off is you end up driving a diesel which are no fun at all. Buy the petrol- it's not all about power.
Depends what you're looking for and for me, it is about power

alexlane989

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ZX10R NIN said:
If you want a diesel which can be fun remapped to provide a reliable 200-215bhp & hustled down a B road at a good lick then you're looking at the wrong car.

What you want is one of these:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...

This one has had the work done already:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...

If you really want the Honda then the 2.2 is more tuneable be aware that you'll need to leave some money aside to buy a clutch at some point, when you do buy an uprated one & that won't be an issue again then just enjoy tuning & upgrading the car.

I've tuned both petrol & diesel cars they're different power delivery means you have to adjust your style of driving when pressing on but a mapped diesel will be quicker than the 1.8.

Another car worth seeking out if insurance is okay will be the Alpina D3 you won't need to modify it & you get a very sweet steer to boot.

D3

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
Thank you smile has helped a lot! Next step is to test drive both!