VW Golf R Does Quarter-Mile in 9.5 Secs

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A VW Golf R, with a 2-litre forged engine, uprated clutch and exhaust, delivering ~780bhp, has this week done 0-60 in 2.6secs and the quarter-mile in 9.5secs.

Total cost of roughly £50k (£30k for car + £20k for mods).

Faster than a ~£1m LaFerrari, P1, 918, Veyron and Aventador...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o4xHr5zxBk&fe...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BW5Sj3XlarN/

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CraigyMc said:

SuperchargedVR6 said:

The Haldex stuff won't like it for long. Rear diffs and gearboxes have blown running far less power than that, but they only need 1 run to convince the gullible it's a tried, tested and daily reliable package.

Gearboxes are rated by torque rather than power. The point stands though, the transmission is liable to be a weak point.

Ex-factory the motor produces 400nm.
God knows what it's doing when it's up at circa 800bhp - but if it's not revving any higher than normal then 800nm is a reasonable ballpark estimate.

Good fking luck with that...

The Golf R Mk7 stock engine and gearbox will handle 550-600bhp and 450-500 lbft, when mapped properly. A couple dozen of them running happily in the wild across the UK for the past 2 years.

Taking it a little further to 750-800bhp and 500-600 lbft with some strengthened components (pistons, clutch, etc.) is not a major leap forward. These are going to last much longer than you think. Would expect to see 20-30k miles without any major problems, which is about the same kind of reliability you see with a McLaren or Ferrari at the same power level.

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Ahbefive said:

This is one of those comedy threads, love these.

Honest it will take 600bhp no problem....of course it would

A well-known one here with 560bhp on stock engine

http://youtu.be/X8UqH25psSc

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hondansx said:

C70R said:

I came to a thread about something that interests me.
You came to a thread that doesn't interest you, just to tell everyone that it doesn't interest you.

Which of us is the odd one?

Actually, I came to the thread because I was interested. It's just that when I read the article, I didn't find anything to be impressed with.

I explained my rationale, but you just quoted me out of context so you could try to look clever. I've even owned a Golf R!

I would be genuinely interested to know:

a) What is different about the standard Golf R's engine which makes it so apparently capable?
b) Does it benefit from general improvement in engine tech, or does the Golf R engine have unique, world-first innovations?
b) How over-engineered is the rest of the drivetrain from the factory to deal with such big power, if at all?

Otherwise, what is to be impressed by? You can bolt a turbo to any car and make big power. The question is how long it lasts. There are only a select few engines in history that are genuinely landmark. I'm interested to know if the Golf's is one of them.

• Rally turbo cars in 1980s = high cost + high maintenance...
• Jap turbo cars in 1990s = medium cost + medium maintenance...
• Golf R in 2010s = medium cost + low maintenance...

The Golf R has moved the game on quite a bit. You can give it ~400bhp for pennies and the servicing cost is about the same as your granny's Polo.

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KarlMac said:

WCZ said:

it seems to be more reliably tuneable than the jap stuff though, everyone I know who put 500bhp through an a evo engine had countless problems

There are decades of engineering in-between them tough. Earliest versions of 4g engine were early 90s, EJ20 in Subaru was 1989, RB engines were early 90s as we're the 2J engines

No question, the Jap 1990s / 2000s stuff was epic. Way ahead of their time. The Golf R has built on that in the 2010s and made it cheaper and reliabler. A Golf R can be tuned to ~500bhp for relative pennies, serviced for pennies, and will probably last for >50k miles (several are already at the 20k mark with no issues).