What will happen to Vauxhall's lineup now no GM??

What will happen to Vauxhall's lineup now no GM??

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As I’m sure most of you know, although the press on here seems to have been a little low key on it.

GM has sold off Vauxhall and Opel to PSA (Peugeot and Citroen).

What does this mean for future models??


As I’m sure many on here will deny, Vauxhall and Opel haven’t really produced much in the way of their own cars for a long long time. Mostly because GM had owned Vauxhall since 1925 and Opel since 1929. Meaning that most of the cars since then, or at least the post war ones have all had GM origins of some kind. And have often been sold under many different brands across the globe, including Pontiac, Holden, Buick, Chevrolet, etc.

One thing seems certain, it’s the end of the V8 Holden rebadged models for the UK.

And much of the Vauxhall/Opel range seems to be direct competitors to much of the Pug/Citroen range….. ???? So will this continue, or will PSA want to reposition their new acquisition? Or will we simply see Pugs with Vauxhall badges on?

Thoughts?

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SpeckledJim said:
Genuine question here - in which countries does Vauxhall have a good reputation?

I'd honestly opine that Ford (for example) has a miles better image than Vauxhall in the UK, despite being nip-and-tuck in terms of products.
Not sure PSA will get away with putting Ford badges on them though wink

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Plate spinner said:
Truckosaurus said:
If they were clever they could use Vauxhall as a luxury brand (link it too other upmarket British brands - Range Rover, Jag, Bentley, Rolls etc).
They'd have to be pretty damn clever to pull that off...
You and others are being rather mocking of this suggestion. But let's not forget SEAT and especially Skoda were once seen in far worse light than run of the mill Vauxhalls. Yet VAG have somehow transformed the images of those to make them trendy, even desirable to certain types.

What rational are you applying to say the same couldn't be done to Vauxhall?

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Nickbrapp said:
It's already anounced they will platform share. The new crossland X is just a Peugeot 2008 under the body, I suspect engines will follow as vauxhalls line up is pretty poor.

Expect the next gen insignia and 508 to share the platform too.

I wonder if some of the Vauxhall reliability issues stem from it being made it Britain. Does anyone buy a Vauxhall because they are made here? I wouldn't.
Are you sure Vauxhalls are made in Britain? You might want to check that up on a per car model basis wink

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TooMany2cvs said:
300bhp/ton said:
Are you sure Vauxhalls are made in Britain? You might want to check that up on a per car model basis wink
Astra - almost certain. Low-roof Vivaro - yup.

Anything else...? Nah...

But you try convincing your Daily Mail-reading Grandad that Vauxhall and Ford aren't "British as Roast Beef"...
Try it on here more like wink

How many blinkered fanboys/ill informed think Ford is British and not American. Answer a lot.