Toshiba battery 6 minute charge 200 mile range soon...

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Can't see this in here yet,

Looks very promising

TNO anodes are claimed to double the energy capacity of Toshiba’s current offerings. Initial testing has revealed the new cells maintain “over 90 percent” of their capacity after 5000 cycles with the ability to be rapidly charged, even in cooler temperatures as cool as 14 degrees Fahrenheit (where the charge time increases slightly, to 10 minutes). Perhaps most important is that Toshiba promises that these lithium-ion cells with the TNO anode will be available in 2019.


https://blog.caranddriver.com/toshiba-on-the-cusp-...

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TooMany2cvs said:

32kWh in six minutes...

Do the maths.
320kW
415v three-phase, that's 770A.

What sort of cable are you going to be carrying in the boot for that?

A thick one?

Yes getting all that power in there in 6 minutes is going to be hard but even so sounds very promising, maybe that's the minimum who says you have to push it that fast?

200 miles in 20 minutes

The life cycle of the battery is also very good news.

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TooMany2cvs said:

Only 230A @ 415v, then.

Times how many charge points on the forecourt?

Perhaps Im Being stupid here and Im Sure you will tell me if I am but who says you need only one charging point on the car and to charge all the cells in parallel ?

Perhaps you can decouple them and charge four banks in 20 minutes with four cables with fewer amps then reconnect the cables in the car?

Yes even If this is bullst and yes there are new battery stories every few months it sounds at least plausible and perhaps charging isn't insurmountable.

Forget 6 minutes, 200 miles for a two hour charge would be fine with me and even make it viable for my current use

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HannsG said:

I saw a Tesla on a charge point today.

I walked past thinking... What's the fking point?

Gimmick at best. Charging my work phone is a pain in the arse. God knows where you electric driving muppets find the time to wait for a mode of transport to charge up.

200 mile range? Oh yeah baby... Lol. Do you even Venture out of your back yard? Or do you all own a second car fueled by satans fuel for long haul trips?

Anyone heard of Petrol or diesel?????

Edited by HannsG on Monday 23 October 22:38

I drive approx 1k miles a week for work you? Typically 200 miles and an over night stay so 200 Range just about cuts it if I can charge it for a few hours at a hotel over night.

Hey guess what some people don't do big miles very often so a car like this would suit and if they did need more miles occasionally they could rent.

Wtf is it with this part of the forum where people are only able to see their own situations.

And nobody said it need be your only car.


Ps I own six currently so I'm sure I could sell a couple and replace with one electric car.

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TooMany2cvs said:

...and THAT is the showstopper that the EV zealots miss. The grid simply would not cope.

I've done a round trip of about 370 miles today. There's nowhere to plug an EV in at the destination, and the car wasn't stationary for more than about an hour all day, anyway. It was done in a 20yo car that cost me £250 18mo/20k ago, and used just over 30 litres of fuel for the trip, with most of the motorway miles at mildly illegal cruise altitude, and the trips out-and-about from the destination were mostly done with the rear seats flat and the boot full to the window line.

EV zealots? Wtf are you in about.

Nobody has said that everybody should have one on here ( government advisors may differ)
Nobody has said you must only have one car
Nobody has said they will suit everybody
Nobody has said that everybody only comutes 5 minutes and goes shopping on Saturday.

Get a grip
Oh my car history is in profile if you want to check the type of cars I prefer.
But guess what situations change would I own an ev only? No
If I had a short commute would I own one for that purpose and have other cars for other roles yes very possibly.