RE: Citroen confirms new large saloon for production
Wednesday 17th January 2018
File this particular news story under "didn't see it coming". But, according to our colleagues at Autocar, Citroen will launch a new large saloon in the next couple of years. And who doesn't love a big French four-door?
But we admire a large French saloon as much as anyone else, particularly with such previous highlights as the Peugeot 605 and Renault 25, plus Citroen's own C6 and CX. The news is particularly exciting with the admission from Jackson that the new model will be inspired by the very suave CXperience concept of Paris 2016. "Like all concept cars, it was made to test reaction, and the car will evolve. But - and I know I'm biased - I loved it. It will inspire the production car and it gave a view of a luxury flagship without any of the traditional cues of chrome, leather or lacquered wood."
The new 'Advanced Comfort' suspension is already being suggested for whatever the Citroen saloon is; combine that with an electrified powertrain and you have the potential for a really refined cruiser. There could be both a four- and five-seat layout, one emphasising luxury and the other practicality. Bring those together with some expensive interior materials and whatever technology people will need to be connected to in 2020 and you have the makings of a very desirable Citroen. That nobody in Europe will probably want. But can we have a few here anyway, though? Please?
Citroen confirms new large saloon for production
Joint replacement for C5/C6 will happen, says CEO - time to dig out the XM press shots!
The news comes from an interview with Citroen CEO Linda Jackson, who stated that such a model "is a crucial part of being a big manufacturer." Moreover, it's crucial for success in China, Citroen's second-biggest market and, as we know, firm fans of the saloon car. BMW makes a 2 Series saloon just for China, don't forget.
While the news may come as something of a surprise for Europeans - D-segment saloons have been perhaps the biggest victim of the SUV craze - the commitment to a production car derived from the CXperience shows Citroen's commitment to China. Naturally we know little about it now, so let's hope Citroen is open to some suggestions...
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[Source: Autocar]
Discussion
Ex X Power said:
TooMany2cvs said:
The ridiculous thing is that all the hard bit is already done. It'd just be a case of RHD dash mouldings, really.
Unfortunately, I suspect you're right.
Just..... LHD to RHD is a massive job in Engineering alone... Then there's the cost of crash test, homolgation etc.... Almost another car tbh.Unfortunately, I suspect you're right.
Cant see them bringing it here
All the brand-specific external panelwork will be fully UNECE type-approved.
So...?
Sine Metu said:
The French are industry is essentially about lowest unit cost of production. They moved most of their production out of France to low labour cost locations.
PSA built 1.9m cars in Europe last year - just about 1m of those were made in France. Most of the rest were built in Spain, at the Vigo factory which opened in 1958. Renault are a similar split.Sine Metu said:
They only invest a fraction of the amount the Germans do in R&D.
Might Sir be including Opel in "the Germans"...?8V085 said:
Funny thing about this is (from personal experience) that in an XM if the LHM pump died you were left without brakes.
Only if you ignore the pressure warning light and heavy steering then, when the accumulator starts to go flat, the suspension dropping, then - finally - the brakes...There's a security valve in the system whose sole job is to prioritise pressure remaining to the brakes.
I did 70k each in a very late CX GTi (from about 100k, IIRC), then an XM turbo petrol (from 60k). Neither let me down horribly, both had niggles.
The biggest niggle was the digital climate in the XM. I never did get to the bottom of it - several panels, a couple of flap motors etc. Apart from that, it was all relatively minor stuff.
The biggest niggle was the digital climate in the XM. I never did get to the bottom of it - several panels, a couple of flap motors etc. Apart from that, it was all relatively minor stuff.
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