Dealer supplied MOT, am I right be to worried?

Dealer supplied MOT, am I right be to worried?

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Valgar

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850 posts

136 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Hi, earlier on this week I put a deposit down on a little shed money runaround from a dealer and it was to come with 12 months MOT

Naturally they'll supply their own MOT which is already potentially concerning.

Now it's late on Friday, they close Saturday although I'm due to pick it up tomorrow out of hours and as yet according to the Gov website, it currently still has no MOT.

I'm thinking i'm going to get a dodgy MOT because if they do it tomorrow then they needed a part, they would really struggle to get a part delivered on a Saturday.

If I do get one then I know how to deal with it so I'm not worried about that part.

Am I just being paranoid or does this sound iffy?

Valgar

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850 posts

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Friday 9th March 2018
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You're probably right, I've just had to reject a car this month because of a problem a dealer couldn't fix, I really don't want the hassle again

Valgar

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Friday 9th March 2018
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rallycross said:
Definitely paranoid you sound like exactly the sort of buyer who should NOT be buying cheap runners if you think like that.
I live off bangernomics, I've lost count of the cars I've owned, but I do expect 12 months MOT to be legit

Valgar

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Friday 9th March 2018
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I realise a MOT is not a reliability test, but at least it should be safe and roadworthy which is the whole point. I would like to know that my seatbelt is going to stay attached to the floor in the event of an accident.

Mercky said:
Bangernomics could be quite expensive if you're buying from dealers.
Thanks for the advice, I don't usually go to dealers, only normally for my work car.

Valgar

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Friday 9th March 2018
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DickyC said:
Two of the second hand car dealers I transport cars for have very different attitudes to their buyers. One is new to the game and is hoping to build a reputation for value, fair play and strong after sales service. The other has been at it for twenty years and gave up with buyers of cheap cars years ago. The former has potential buyers of five hundred pound cars asking if the cars have full service history and can he guarantee the cam belt has been changed. He had a lady drive forty minutes back to the garage in her fifteen year old high mileage car because she couldn't adjust the dashboard clock. He fixed it. A well-to-do couple bought their Jaguar X-type back for a headlight bulb. They drove thirty miles, brought their daughter and son-in-law with them and went for a coffee in the pub next door while the bulb was changed. They stayed there for lunch. The 'free' headlight bulb cost them over £100. On the other hand, if the chap who has been selling cars for twenty years has customers or would be customers whose expectations exceed what he views as reasonable he tells them to fk off. He claims he has never been taken to court despite threats of action.

Buying old cars is a gamble. Read the dealer. Do you like him? Do you think you could trust him? How is his customer feed back? Is the place busy? If you think he sounds like a gangster or a conman go somewhere else.
Thanks for the detailed response, he only has 12 Autotrader reviews but they seem good, he seemed alright. The place is a workshop garage that sells on the side it seems, not quite dodgy backstreet but not quite full dealer, probably had around 20 cars for sale. I had a good feeling about him but the delay in getting the MOT has me concerned, I'm probably worrying over nothing. This time tomorrow I'll know anyway.

Valgar

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Monday 12th March 2018
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Update...

I picked the car up on Sunday but didn't look at it much as I was busy.

The MOT just had the same advisory as last year, brake lines, which wouldn't take a genius to do. I did not receive an emissions sheet, 1st red flag

Today I've had a look around and generally it seems OK, but there were a few issues I thought were questionable

The front wipers were both perished and did not clear screenwash very effectively

The rear wiper, was totally split and fked, it should've been mentioned I thought even if it's not a fail?

Both number plate bulbs not functioning.

So overall I do not believe an MOT was done, although I am happy with the cars overall condition. I will go to my trusted garage for a service and a thorough check over for the things I can't check at home, like light beam, emissions etc.


Valgar

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Monday 12th March 2018
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rallycross said:
Either a troll or an idiot.
Or maybe I'm not going to do a private MOT at 4pm on a Sunday afternoon on his forecourt after work and he's only there to fill out the V5.

"Oh hang on mate, do you mind waiting around for half hour because I am suspicious that you have faked an MOT, also do you mind if I use your workshop for this because it's pissing down outside"

I had already looked at the car previously and test drove it. The car was fairly low value and I knew if there were any issues I could address them later.

But no please carry on insulting people, how good does it feel to be fking perfect?

JIMMYJ4ZZ said:
Seconded, you should report. I regret not doing this in the past.

Info here: https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/tackling-mot-...
Thanks, I'm going to get my trusted garages report and go from there.



Valgar

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Friday 23rd March 2018
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Update 2:

Finally got around to getting it checked by my local mechanic and it wasn't good news

It was in their opinion that an MOT had NOT been done, they found...

Brake pads 75% worn (should have been advised)
Both front lower suspension arm bushes perished and cracked although no play yet (advisory)
Exhaust has a temporary repair (advisory)
All rear brake pipes heavily corroded (advised on the MOT which was the same as the year before, should have been failed according to my mechanic who is MOT registered)
Both rear springs corroded (advisory)
Both rear tyres perished (advisory)
Rear anti roll bar corroded (advisory)
Both track rod end gaiters split (MOT fail)

The fact the place who supplied the MOT didn't mention any of these bar the brake pipes and on top of the minor issues I found previously is pretty damning.

Needless to say as soon as they open tomorrow I shall be having a polite word.