Being charged for not moving (Permit absurdity)
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Just bought a new smoker, and Camden have decided in their wisdom to charge me an extra £61 a year for parking a diesel outside my gaff.
That's PARKING.
Not driving.
Not burning fuel.
Not polluting what is already the most polluted council in London thanks to TFL and delivery drivers.
Why on earth should I pay more money for not operating my car than my neighbour with a hybrid for not operating their car?
Parking permits have to be about space on the road, not about emissions, surely?
Is this insane or is it just me?
Anyone else suffering this?
What can be done?
That's PARKING.
Not driving.
Not burning fuel.
Not polluting what is already the most polluted council in London thanks to TFL and delivery drivers.
Why on earth should I pay more money for not operating my car than my neighbour with a hybrid for not operating their car?
Parking permits have to be about space on the road, not about emissions, surely?
Is this insane or is it just me?
Anyone else suffering this?
What can be done?
Not helping...
Nothing wrong with diesel provided the car is modern and regularly serviced.
But much more importantly, what is wrong with this picture? The council are just arbitrarily charging for parking. My 1964 classic pumps out more rubbish than this new Volvo, although, to be fair, it pollutes at exactly the same rate when it's parked.
'Just Move', and 'That's Camden for You' is why this mess exists. Is no one challenging the absurdity of this?
Nothing wrong with diesel provided the car is modern and regularly serviced.
But much more importantly, what is wrong with this picture? The council are just arbitrarily charging for parking. My 1964 classic pumps out more rubbish than this new Volvo, although, to be fair, it pollutes at exactly the same rate when it's parked.
'Just Move', and 'That's Camden for You' is why this mess exists. Is no one challenging the absurdity of this?
TooMany2cvs said:
So, really, this is "I didn't bother to check the parking rules that apply outside my house before I bought this car. Wah."
Unless this "smoker" is new enough to be Euro6, there's going to be an even more spectacular tantrum when he finds out about the T-charge...
I did check. The numbers still make sense thanks to the MPG figures.Unless this "smoker" is new enough to be Euro6, there's going to be an even more spectacular tantrum when he finds out about the T-charge...
It is Euro 6
I checked about the T charge and the ULEZ as well.
I have no objection to paying extra for driving a polluting vehicle through a city.
What I am miffed about is being charged for NOT driving it.
TooMany2cvs said:
<scratches head>
Nope, not seeing that.
All that's happening is that people are saying "Yeh, this is hardly news - it's been going on for a few years, and really shouldn't be a big surprise. Haven't you heard about the air quality issues in the huge city you choose to live in the middle of, and the push away from diesel?"
Basically...
Parking in London not cheap. Air in London filthy. Hold the front page!
See Congestion Charging. That's meant to resolve this issue. Doesn't of course, because it doesn't make London any less congested. It would if they increased the charge, but they can't / daren't for some reason...Nope, not seeing that.
All that's happening is that people are saying "Yeh, this is hardly news - it's been going on for a few years, and really shouldn't be a big surprise. Haven't you heard about the air quality issues in the huge city you choose to live in the middle of, and the push away from diesel?"
Basically...
Parking in London not cheap. Air in London filthy. Hold the front page!
London air is cleaner now than it has been since the 16th century.
The vehicle isn't subject to the T charge and passes the ULEZ
It's just bloody Camden Council being awkward.
About the only thing that makes Camden less than the best place to live is the damned council.
One way to clean up the air would be to stop all the home deliveries or charge a Tox charge for them... but that's another discussion.
By all means have a Tox charge in Camden, but charge those going through the largest borough in London whilst give the residents a discount, like the Congestion Charge and T charge do.
And 300 lb.ft of torque in a 1.7 tonne vehicle will pull the skin off even my mother's rice pudding!
OK, so it won't perform like the Atom, but it'll get a family and a couple of dogs from A to B in fairly short order.
It's just bloody Camden Council being awkward.
About the only thing that makes Camden less than the best place to live is the damned council.
One way to clean up the air would be to stop all the home deliveries or charge a Tox charge for them... but that's another discussion.
By all means have a Tox charge in Camden, but charge those going through the largest borough in London whilst give the residents a discount, like the Congestion Charge and T charge do.
And 300 lb.ft of torque in a 1.7 tonne vehicle will pull the skin off even my mother's rice pudding!
OK, so it won't perform like the Atom, but it'll get a family and a couple of dogs from A to B in fairly short order.
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