RE: Mazda RX-8: PH Heroes

RE: Mazda RX-8: PH Heroes

Wednesday 12th September 2018

Mazda RX-8: PH Heroes

Divisive, derided and demanding, there's still a place for the RX-8 in the Heroes Hall of Fame - here's why



Given any discussion of the Mazda RX-8 will inevitably (and very swiftly) turn to its problems, they seem worth mentioning first. Yes, even though this is a celebratory piece. Because, well, the RX-8 wasn't a flawless car from the beginning, fresh and exciting though it undoubtedly was. Its abundance of revs was equalled by a paucity of torque, exposed by brawny rivals like the Nissan 350Z, Vauxhall Monaro and turbocharged Audi TTs. Its fuel economy rivalled the rally reps without their searing cross country pace, and nothing quite consumes oil like a rotary engine. There was also the small matter of 284g/km...

Then, of course, there are the problems that have manifested themselves as the car has aged. Ignition issues, engine flooding, low compression, worn rotor tips, the potential need for rebuilds... It's a long and pretty intimidating list in the worst case scenario, exacerbated by the everyday running costs: a post-March 2006 car could cost as little as £1,000 to buy, but £555 to tax for a year. Here is not the place to state definitively what works and what doesn't; some online commentators will tell you theirs is fine after thousands of miles of considered use and others will call RX-8s total garbage, but it seems fair to say they need a caring, dedicated owner.


So what does that owner stand to inherit? Firstly, it's worth contributing some context, and reiterating what a seismic impact the car had on the UK coupe market in the early years of the 21st century. Despite being a cult favourite, the previous RX-7 had found few fans willing to part with their money in the UK: too expensive, too niche, too not German for our tastes. That changed with the RX-8; less focused and slightly less powerful, sure, but also more accessible, more practical and significantly cheaper. At launch the 192hp car cost £19,995, with another £2k getting buyers into the 231hp, six-speed flagship.

And what a package it was. Fast, direct, engaging, dynamic, well equipped, practical and distinctive, the RX-8 was immediately popular and successful in an extremely competitive coupe sector. Let's not forget that in the middle of the last decade a budget of around £25k could have bought you anything from a 350Z to an Alfa GT, Vauxhall Monaro, or an Audi TT. Or a Chrysler Crossfire. Or Toyota Celica.


Special editions and equipment updates followed, plus the significant R3 revision of 2009, but fundamentally the recipe remained familiar throughout its seven years in the UK. There had been nothing quite like it before - the RX-7 representing a more exotic Wankel heyday - and there has been nothing like the RX-8 since, the only potential for future Mazda rotaries apparently being as range extender motors. The 350Z was replaced, the TT continues to this day and even Toyota still has a sub-£30k coupe on sale, but the death knell sounded loud and clear for the RX-8 eight years ago.

You'll know probably how the story goes from here, the RX-8's terminal flaw now proving its most charming attraction. Goodness knows the rotary engine has some innate, er, quirks to get around; that said, to experience an engine this smooth, this characterful and this willing in a world of copy and paste turbos is an absolute revelation. The lack of torque feels almost dangerous initially, and there remains no escaping the fact it doesn't quite go fast enough to match its ferocious appetite for unleaded. But once it's beyond 6,000rpm, shrieking its demented howl through the last 3,000rpm and feeling for all the world like it's good for about 12,000, the RX-8 almost qualifies itself for Hero status immediately. That it responds so perfectly to the throttle pedal, is matched to a delightful six-speed manual and keeps its power building for seemingly every last rev simply seals the deal. Powertrain diversity and variety should be celebrated in all their forms, and the rotary is as worthy of celebration here as any flat, V or straight equivalent. It's a marvel, so smooth you'll never believe it runs on something as crude as petrol, and an absolute tonic in a world that must prioritise accessible torque, lab test emissions and ease of use.


The joy of the RX-8, and its appeal as a package, though, was that it provided so much more intrigue than simply a cool engine. Encouragingly, that talent endures to this day, which makes its irrefutable woes the more frustrating. This is a superb car to drive, weight feeling low, centralised and exquisitely controlled. Thus there's seemingly agility and balance to spare, meaning precious, hard-won momentum can be easily maintained and manipulated. 

There's nothing particularly revolutionary about the RX-8 - double wishbones up front, multi-link at the rear, Bilstein dampers for this 40th edition and anti-roll bars - so it just goes to show that a properly devised conventional set up can still deliver. Granted, the steering is nothing exceptional and there's a brittle edge to the ride, but the fundamentals are spot on - balance, turn in, wheel control and so on. The RX-8 remains a finely honed and rewarding sports car to drive - coming from Mazda that probably shouldn't be a surprise - and a reminder of why light, front-engined, rear-drive cars will always have a deserved special place in our hearts. Should you find a slippery enough surface, too, the RX-8 is more than willing to indulge your Tokyo Drift fantasies, benign and approachable as it is when the tyres relinquish grip.


That combination of magical powertrain and finely wrought dynamics, plus great value and real practicality, found the RX-8 plenty of fans when petrol was less than a pound a litre. At the peak of its popularity, HowManyLeft suggests that more than 20,000 were registered on UK roads, some achievement for a sports car from a non premium manufacturer. Bear in mind there were never more than 6,000 Nissan 350Zs in the UK and you get a better idea of the RX-8's popularity.

A decade and a half after its introduction, it's still not short of supporters, those dedicated to the cause and staunch advocates of what looks like being the last rotary Mazda. On fleeting experience it's not hard to see why, the car still delivering a drive like no other. It's not perfect by any means, but it is memorable and characterful, which will count for a lot as it moves towards classic status. 


There's no doubt any RX-8 requires careful and considered use, and it would certainly seem some owners are simply unluckier than others. That said, for offering a refreshingly Japanese take on the 21st century coupe, for opening up thousands more people to the joys of rotary engines and for proving there is a Mazda sports car beyond the MX-5, the RX-8 deserves its Hero status. They're cheap for a reason (those engine maladies), yes; however they're also lauded with good cause, and that's because they're damn good fun. The RX-8 is a flawed gem, of that there can be no doubt, but it's a gem nonetheless.


SPECIFICATION - MAZDA RX-8

Engine: 1,308cc twin-rotor rotary
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 231@8,200rpm
Torque (lb ft): 156@5,500rpm
0-62mph: 6.4 seconds
Top speed: 146mph
Weight: 1,381kg
MPG: 25.2
CO2: 284g/km
On sale: 2003-2010
Price new: £21,995 (2003)
Price now: from £1,000

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Berkut666

Original Poster:

55 posts

157 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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I had the PZ Ltd Ed a few years back. Sold my Evo 6 and bought a low mileage very clean one. Went into the purchase eyes open (yes it was slower than the Evo, I knew they drank oil and petrol, painful when things went wrong etc) It had been a few years since owning anything RWD so I was open to the change.

Things I loved - The look, the doors, the seating position, the lay out of the interior with the placement of the gearstick especially being perfect for me, the noise when driven hard, surprisingly comfy for 4 people, even the boot wasn't bad considering the styling.

Things I didnt mind - Fuel and oil consumption. Went into it open minded so I knew it would happen. Used about 1L of Oil every 1000 miles. Some are better, some way worse.

I hated 1 thing and 1 thing only. The handling. It was awful, to the point it was dangerous. It put the rear out in any weather and at most speeds. At first I thought it was me so I let other try it and they agreed. So I spent alot of cash on the car. Tyres, suspension, alignment etc etc and it was still awful. Even in the dry, driving Mrs Daisy, it would squirrel about with the traction light flashing. Not in a fun way but in a "ahhhhhh I am going to die" way. No RWD I had before or after was that bad. Maybe it was just mine but it would put me off another.

Berkut666

Original Poster:

55 posts

157 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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I get that most owners (and reviews) go on about the lovely handling, hence why I was so surprised at mine. Initially test drove it in the pouring rain and that's why I dismissed the fact it had a slidey back end when I drove it.

But it was just as bad in the dry. I spent about 5K trying to sort the issue. Chassis was checked that it was straight, and it had no signs of repair, all the suspension, tracking etc changed out. Wheels were even put to a specialist to check they were all as should be (the guy does welding, repairs and checks they are round). All 4 tyre's changed twice in 3k miles. First time with P-zeros (my personal preference) and second time with Bridgestones as per factory. £5k on a car that cost me £6.5k to buy so I genuinely wanted it to work! Last resort I put it to a a track car specialist by me to get it all set up and even that didn't help. Everyone who drove it said "thats not right......"

Prior to that I owned several BMW's, A Merc and an MX5. Since I have had an E90 M3. All have been amazing. So I cant even blame a lack of knowledge or ownership of RWD cars.

With all that and my first post I wouldn't say its put me off them. I have looked at getting a toy to supplement the current fleet and I would certainly test drive one of these again.