JLR on 3 day week

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45550025
Which cars are made in Castle Bromwich?

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Wooda80 said:

AlexS said:

They have the E-Pace though and the market is moving from estates to SUVs.

The I-Pace is well ahead of their competition as well.

E-Pace and I-Pace both built in Graz, Austria
There is a new Land Rover plant in Slovakia, as well as others around the world serving local markets.
Castle Bromwich is on a 3 day week.

Deduce from those statements what you will....

Any idea why they chose to use magna steyr? When CB has capacity?
https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/news/2017/07/jagua...

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Nickbrapp said:

TooMany2cvs said:

What's the problem? Looks OK from here.

It reminds me of a bulbous blimp the way the window slopes down into the flat angle of the boot, that stupid chrome trim makes it look like it’s got a monobrow over a pair of droopy eyes

Are cars supposed to have a 'face' at the back?

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This is almost turning into a Lotus type thread

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XE looks impressive on wikipedia especially the diesel that does 99g/km = £0 road tax?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_XE
Bonded and riveted aluminium construction is that borrowed from Lotus too?

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Shiv_P said:

Digga said:

XE is a really good car IMHO.

With the light, powerful 4 cylinder petrol engines, it feels extremely lively and nimble. I think it looks pretty good too. There just desperately needed to be (at least) and estate option, if not also a 2 door coupe version too, in order for JLR to get the benefit of volume. Also, aside from the crazy (too expensive to sell a lot of) Project 8, there is no 'fk off' big-engined BMW-M equivalent model.

The interior is really not up to scratch though, especially against the audi a4

Maybe there's an opening in the market for DFS to begin selling cars

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Harji said:

Well she was the fool the signed article 50 before negotiations giving all the negotiating power to your opponent, I would love to play poker with her. Besides, we 'chose' to leave so in theory we don't have much to negotiate. If I chose to leave my AA membership would I negotiate what I would like to keep but not pay? Actually, I negotiated a discount on my membership, but I had not left at the time.

And there you have it
UK could just leave the EU and blow raspberries
However it's better to come up with some sort of deal particularly with the Irish border issue - UK Ireland have always operated with a pretty much open border.
Otherwise Ireland would have to leave next, which the EU doesnt want
The Ireland issue is quite a strong card for the UK to play

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anonymous said:

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It didnt help that yesterday the Bank of England came out with a scenario where house prices dropped by 33%

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Ares said:

You know something, they are not really. The media is just spinning it...and both sides using soundbites to serve their own purpose.

As for JLR - stop watering down their range and making uncompetitive cars would be a start. fk all to do with Brexit/Trump/VW

The I-pace is 4WD and could easily have been launched under the LR banner

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craigjm said:

saaby93 said:

The I-pace is 4WD and could easily have been launched under the LR banner

Funny you should say that.... The car has more to do with Gaydon than it does with Whitley and it was a strategic decision to launch it as a Jaguar rather than the first car in the Road Rover range. If you sit in it and look at the architecture design language you can see this, it feels like a Land Rover.

VW do similar with their cars.
Bring out say a Seat or Skoda version of a new Golf to iron out most of the gremlins, then launch the Golf.

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Sa Calobra said:

https://www.reliabilityindex.com/top-100

Google can throw up more.

Nothing to do with 'decades ago'.

Some of the models are middling

Look at this
https://www.reliabilityindex.com/reliability/searc...
Surely if you pay the earth for that youd exepct reliability to be way over at the green end stop

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cptsideways said:

If they want higher build quality cars with less ongoing life costs then abroad built would be my bet, better staff for lower costs, less unionisation, I can see the Ipace & defender builds moving to either Europe or the USA where demand would be highest & profitable to sell back to Europe?

keep up at the back
ipace is already manufactured only at magny steyr
Where is the new defender being made?

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craigjm said:

cptsideways said:

saaby93 said:

cptsideways said:

If they want higher build quality cars with less ongoing life costs then abroad built would be my bet, better staff for lower costs, less unionisation, I can see the Ipace & defender builds moving to either Europe or the USA where demand would be highest & profitable to sell back to Europe?

keep up at the back
ipace is already manufactured only at magny steyr
Where is the new defender being made?

I'm aware the Ipace is built in Graz though this is only a short term solution? Defender is going to be built in Slovenia I think you'll find, no doubt along with other alu bodied cars on the same platform, Discovery is to be built there.

Surely you mean Slovakia

Isnt it a test of which plant has better quality control?

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Jazzy Jag said:

5000 UK job losses according to the news, today.

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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/16/j...

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akadk said:

^ I-PACE

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https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/electric-c...

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iSore said:

craigjm said:

I’m not really that pedantic to give a st so if you disagree that’s fine but the design engineer who signed it off is a friend of my dads. Let’s agree to disagree because it’s not relevant to the conversation here.

I don't give a toss who your Dad's mate is. You're still wrong. Google it.

I've owned XJ-S's. I've worked on XK8's. They are utterly, totally and completely different cars from end to end.

P.S I worked on the DB7 project in 1994 as well btw.

- maybe these underside views help
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xk8-xkr-x100-17...

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craigjm said:

Who gives a toss who did what on a car that’s over 20 years old and has no relevance to the situation JLR are in now and therefore no relevance to this discussion

who started it?

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Is the facelifted Landwind X7 much competition

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At least they make an Evoque pick up