RE: Next Audi RS7 caught testing; expect 650hp

RE: Next Audi RS7 caught testing; expect 650hp

Wednesday 14th November 2018

Next Audi RS7 caught testing; expect 650hp

Ingolstadt's next-gen four-door is almost certain to pinch electric power from the Pananmera



In a couple of years you'll likely be able to buy a four-door hatchback (ok coupe, if we must) from a mainstream manufacturer that produces 650hp. Madness. But that's what happens when you combine a twin-turbocharged V8 with an electric motor; you get large round numbers. Which is exactly what Audi is thought to be doing with the next-generation RS7 Sportback.

The new model is widely expected to share the same petrol-electric powertrain that has the Porsche Panamera Turbo S E Hybrid producing 680hp. We'd imagine Ingolstadt's version developing slightly less than that (because Porsche) but it'll have the same eight-speed auto and - you'd imagine - the same access to a modest zero emission range.


Certainly the current RS7 is getting on a bit (it's based on the eight-year-old A7) so much so that when Matt put one up against the new Panamera last year, it was pretty much left for dead despite being a wholly compelling machine in isolation. It provides space for four and their luggage while offering supercar-like straight-line pace and abundant all-wheel drive traction. For the next car to improve on this it'll need significant changes under the skin.

However, if the rumour mill is to be believed (and if Audi is to both have its cake, and eat it) the RS7 will also spawn a more direct successor to the current car in the shape of an 'entry-level' model powered by the boosted 4.0-litre V8 exclusively. Given the Performance version of the outgoing model already produces in excess of 600hp, we'd expect its follow up to be around the same mark - which is unlikely to leave anyone feeling disappointed.


Audi confirmed earlier this year that it was abandoning the in-house developed MLB platform that underpins today's car so you might expect the 2020 RS7 to inherit the Porsche-engineered MSB platform used to great effect by the Panamera and also the Bentley Continental GT. And, well, you'd be right. But the A7/RS7's structure will be shorter, plus it'll use air suspension with its own parameters, so it would probably be an oversimplification to describe it as a reworked Panamera skeleton. Audi will probably also have a new version of its Dynamic Ride Control available as a firmer option tailored specifically to the RS7.

Heavily camouflaged though it may be in our spy shots, the new car's silhouette is clearly an evolution of the current RS7 - which comes as no surprise. There is, however, a visible new light bar at the rear, plus, the whole car looks a little larger - again, predictable. Expect an interior packed with the latest Audi Virtual Cockpit technology and no small amout of wood and leather. And expect a near six-figure price, too.


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sidesauce

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If I was in the market for a car in this category, the Panamera would get the nod over this.

sidesauce

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Beechie said:
sidesauce said:
If I was in the market for a car in this category, the Panamera would get the nod over this.
Fascinating
Thanks mate

sidesauce

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j90gta said:
I'd be more impressed if someone came up with a lightweight vehicle with less power but with equivalent performance.
It could be done. Then it would cost twice as much.

sidesauce

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RumbleOfThunder said:
God Audi are wk. MBQ shared platform ste used by Skoda, primary market clueless flash bd while knowing nothing about cars wkers.
MBQ platform ste shared by Skoda? Alright, I'll bite; let's deal with this ignorance:-

Firstly, it's called MQB, designed by VW for smaller cars with transversely mounted engines and front/4-wheel drivetrains (so not used by Audi for the A7) and at a reported development cost of around $50 billion over four years, using minds far smarter than yours, I wouldn't call it ste...

Secondly, the 6-7 'platforms' VW currently uses aren't really platforms at all but more a toolkit of different modules that can be used in combination to create a model (with a few fixed points, the pedal box, windscreen rake angle and the distance between the firewall/front wheel axle line being the ones I know of in the case of MQB); VW doesn't have to use the same materials for construction nor the same dimensions/proportions across different models if it doesn't want to.

Finally, the current A7 uses MLB (developed by Audi themselves) and as the article said, this new RS7 probably will use MSB (developed by Porsche) - no Skoda has ever used either MLB or MSB as these are both for large, rear/4-wheel drive models with longitudinally mounted engines within the VW group.

sidesauce

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JamesRR said:
This is a genuine question borne out of interest and not an attempt to have a go at your description - what platform does the A6 use? As I think I’m right in saying that it’s FWD in its basic form, whereas the A7 is always Quattro. I had always assumed they used the same platform but now thinking I may be wrong there.
The very newest A6 uses the MLB Evo or 2nd generation MLB architecture - interestingly, one of the good things about this evolved version is that it finally brings to an end Audi's oft-critised penchant for a long engine overhang in front of the front axle line.

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RumbleOfThunder said:
I'm using the MBQ platform as a stick to beat Audi with as a whole, ya dweeb. Audi part share throughout their range with much cheaper cars in the VAG family.
Thanks poppet.