RE: Gordon Murray Automotive previews F1 successor

RE: Gordon Murray Automotive previews F1 successor

Wednesday 5th June 2019

Gordon Murray Automotive previews F1 successor

Thought the V12, manual, rear-drive supercars had disappeared? Gordon Murray has other ideas



When an engineering legacy contains cars like the McLaren F1, it must be hard for any other achievements to get the recognition they deserve. That has to be the conundrum for Gordon Murray, one he aims to tackle with this car: the T.50.

The release accompanying these sketches is pretty unambiguous: "Conceived as the spiritual successor to the Murray-devised McLaren F1, the T.50 will be the purest, lightest, most driver-focused supercar ever built." Quite some brief, then, and the spec details already released are mouthwatering to say the least.

The F1 staggers to this day with its compact dimensions, lightweight construction and engine from the heavens, all character traits the T50 looks set to emulate. It will be just 4,380mm long and 1,850mm wide, making it 70mm shorter and only fractionally wider than an Audi A3 saloon. Weight is claimed to be just 980kg, thanks to a carbon tub and a typically Murray obsession with removing weight from every component - he himself calls it an "unflinching dedication".


It gets better, too. As part of its mission statement to deliver "the most driver-focussed performance and dynamics of any road car since the F1", the T.50 will be powered by - get this - a 4.0-litre nat-asp V12, revving to 12,100rpm and making 650hp. Oh yeah, and just 332lb ft - who needs torque when you have revs, right? The engine will be developed by Cosworth (in case excitement wasn't already at fever pitch) and Murray claims the V12 will be the "highest revving, highest power density, lightest and fastest-responding naturally aspirated V12 ever made for a road car." Ruddy hell.

That would surely be a pretty emotional experience with a CVT, but the T.50 is slated to use an Xtrac-developed six-speed manual. Outright performance and lap times are not part of the plan apparently, which, combined with the focus on driver involvement, means the manual make more sense.

That said, it doesn't sound like the T.50 will merely be a shell in which to transport what sounds like a sensational V12. Thanks to a collaboration with an unnamed F1 team, Gordon Murray Automotive will use their wind tunnel to develop 400mm ground effect fan as first seen on the Brabham BT46B - the aim being for the most advanced aero of any road car. Ever.


Other points of note - in case any more were required - are the three-seat layout and dihedral doors like an F1, carbon composite panels, ceramic brakes and ram-air induction via the roof scoop.

According to Murray, the T.50 will follow the F1's focus in being a super GT rather than a stripped-out road racer. There will be selectable engine maps for different driving situations, plus what's claimed to be improvements on the F1 across the board: ingress and egress, maintenance, suspension set up, serviceability and luggage capacity. A laudable aim, for sure, though remember an F1 oil change is £6k - you'd have to hope for something a little more affordable on servicing costs with this car.

Still plenty to find out then, but also a huge amount to be encouraged by with this T.50 project. GMA says that 100 will be made at a cost of £2m each, with deliveries from 2022. Murray predicts this car will be "the last, and the greatest, 'analogue' supercar ever built". We'd agree with his assertion on the first point, and wait with bated breath for further proof of the latter - if it delivers, this could be something very special indeed.


 

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suffolk009

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Wednesday 5th June 2019
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Wish I had a spare £2m.

Incredible claims that would simply be unbelievable from almost anyone else.

suffolk009

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Equus said:
Surely the answer there is for a few F1 owners to club together and commission updated ECU's? There's nothing terribly sophisticated for them to manage with the cars electrical systems, so it wouldn't be particularly difficult or expensive?
Surely most F1 owners could afford their very own bespoke solution.

suffolk009

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I don't know how the legislation works on new cars, but I assume the numbers are low not just to ensure exclusivity, but because there is presumably some sort of tyre approval exemption for 100 cars or fewer. Anybody know?

suffolk009

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Friday 14th June 2019
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RobM77 said:
Didn't Mazda copy the MGB's wheels and even exhaust note for the mk1?
I'm not sure that the exhaust note owes anything to the MGB.

I think the wheels on my Eunos are effectively 7 spoke Miniltes with centre-caps to cover the wheel nuts.

The design detail that everybody overlooks on the MX5 mk1 is that the front wheel arches are pure Marcos.