RE: Aston Martin Vantage V600 Le Mans | Spotted

RE: Aston Martin Vantage V600 Le Mans | Spotted

Thursday 25th November 2021

Aston Martin Vantage V600 Le Mans | Spotted

Built to celebrate Aston's 1959 victory at Le Mans, the special edition V600 was always something special...



It seems odd to me that the Aston Martin Virage didn't hit the ground running. On its release in 1989, it delivered the classic wedge shape with just enough grace and aggression thrown in for good measure - yet just 411 found homes. Its good looks are another from the Heffernan-Greenly school of design, which also penned the Continental R I happened to single out last week, and it's a design that, if anything, has grown better with age.

Perhaps the reason for its tardy sales was a certain lack of mechanical sophistication. The de Dion and Watts linkage rear suspension was far more muscle car than supercar, and then there was the parts-bin raiding, which was very inclusive to say the least. Rather than just concentrate on one manufacturer, like today's Aston tie-up with Mercedes, the Virage grabbed everything it could from everywhere: it had Audi 100 headlights, a Vauxhall Carlton steering column and stalks, a Jaguar XJ40 climate control panel and seat switches, while select other switches and the heater vents were bagged from the Ford Granada.

But when the Virage became the Vantage in 1993, none of that seemed to matter anymore. A skilfully executed redesign by Marek Reichman enhanced the visuals and even though you still opened the doors using Jaguar XJS door handles, you no longer cared. It became all about that engine, with those two Eaton superchargers and the colossal power and torque they added. The 5.3-litre V8 produced 550hp in standard Vantage form, which already made it the most powerful production car at the time - although if you asked Aston Martin's Work Service to fiddle with it some more, they would upgrade it to V600 spec.



The V600 meant an additional £40k-odd added on to the already considerable price tag of the Vantage, which was the product of many hours of hand-built labour at Newport Pagnell. It had to be part-deconstructed to fit the numerous the V600 additions, though, which included AP brakes and better cooling to manage its huge potential. The engine produced a beautifully aligned 600hp and 600 lb ft of torque, both of which conspired to generate a top speed of 200mph. These were bewildering numbers back in the day.

This Le Mans is an even more special example of the breed. It was built to celebrate Aston Martin's 1959 victory at the Circuit de la Sarthe but also, sadly, to culminate the Vantage production after a run that went to 280 examples. Of that number, the Le Mans cars were limited to just 40 in total, of which this car is number 17. That makes it a very rare example of a very rare Aston.

And as we all know, that means it's going to be expensive. Half-a-mill expensive when you can pick up regular Vantages for near enough a fifth of that. According to the listing, it comes to its new owner in mint condition, with a full history - right up to a recent service by Aston specialists R.S. Williams. It even has a book from the factory signed by Roy Salvadori and Carroll Shelby, who drove the works effort to victory in 1959. It's a piece of history and a mighty thing.


SPECIFICATION | ASTON MARTIN VANTAGE V600 LE MANS

Engine: 5,341cc, V8, twin supercharged
Transmission: 6-speed manual (often swapped to 5-speed quick shift), rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 600 @ 6,200rpm
Torque (lb ft): 600 @ 4,400rpm
CO2: N/A
MPG: N/A
Recorded mileage: 2,000
Year registered: 2000
Price new: £233,000
Yours for: £495,000

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V8LM

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Who makes up this stuff?

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will_ said:
Didn't the Virage become the V8 coupe before it became the Vantage?

Have always loved these, proper brute of a thing.
The Virage was launched in 88 and the last built in 94. The Vantage was launched in 92.

In 96, the V8 Coupe was launched, which is essentially a Vantage without the supercharged engine, and the V8 Volante in 97. At this time the Vantage was renamed V8 Vantage.

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Hairymonster said:
The rear lights look a bit Ferrari Daytona.
Corvette C4 on the prototype but Aston Martin had to reverse engineer their own for production. As they couldn't put the reflector in the circumference they needed to put the Jag XJ40 reflectors in the bumper.

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Largechris said:
Disagree on the interior, at the time this was about as leathery and chesterfieldy as anything. The regular V8 in green yes please, a complete event of a car start to finish, used to spend ages looking at one in a local garage.

Tragic that they put those nostrils on it later on, this was a car that never needed special editions.
Nostrils were on the original model.



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Largechris said:
The original as in V550? No, just grills:


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The design model initially had nostrils, as per John Heffernan's design, and then the model tried without and decided not to have them on the cars.




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markcoznottz said:
Take it those wheels never made production ? Using the standard cars wheels was a bit cheeky, made it easier to see it as a parts bin special
Wheels on the Le Mans? These were hollow magnesium Dymags, slightly modified to those available on the V600 Driving Dynamics Pack with a centre cap rather than exposed wheel nuts.




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thegreenhell said:
No, the F1 hadn't even started production when the Vantage was launched. The Aston was available from 1992, and the F1 from late 1993, so the Aston was the most powerful until the F1 arrived.
Not quite. Vantage was launched in October 92 but first cars not delivered until 94 (might have been one in 93).

The 'most powerful production car - In The World' was from Clarkson when he filmed the sequence for Top Gear in the summer of 92. At the time, it wasn't in production. It did have 550 lb ft of torque, which is more than the F1.


Edited by V8LM on Thursday 25th November 10:07

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Pommy said:
Nerd test if you are interested. I think there are at least 5 things different between this (the launch car prototype) and the production car that are visible in this photo. nerd

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waynecyclist said:
Front lights, mirrors, bonnet vents, wipers and side repeaters
Two of those, and thank you - there are at least six things different. I had forgotten about the windscreen wiper. This car had a single wiper.

So, six things different (one being the wiper).

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Pommy said:
V8LM said:
Pommy said:
Nerd test if you are interested. I think there are at least 5 things different between this (the launch car prototype) and the production car that are visible in this photo. nerd
Do tell...
Single wiper (thank you waynecyclist).
Different vent style on the bonnet. This had plain mesh whereas the production cars had a grille over mesh.
Lack of 'Vantage' badge on the side vent (this photo was taken in the summer of 92 and they changed various things, including the bonnet vent, before launch in October)
No heating elements in the glass in front of the headlights. The headlights were changed from these square units (as used on the Alfa Romeo SZ) to round projector lamps during production.
Different mesh below the bumper.
No headrests.

(There is also the lack of a recess in the sill cover as this car didn't have any jacking points, but this is in shadow in the photo)


The wing mirrors and door handles were changed (From Citroen to Jaguar and Vauxhall to Ford) during production.

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Six Potter said:
The answer seems to be, because none of those items are a rare, 600 horse, manual 'box Aston Martin. Unless I'm missing something?
Neither was the Le Mans in this thread at one point. It has since been converted back to a manual.

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waynecyclist said:
V8LM said:
Six Potter said:
The answer seems to be, because none of those items are a rare, 600 horse, manual 'box Aston Martin. Unless I'm missing something?
Neither was the Le Mans in this thread at one point. It has since been converted back to a manual.
It says in the advert It was delivered from new in the ultimate V600 specification package including a close-ratio 5 speed gearbox, is that not the case then
It was shortly converted to auto, and then converted back for sale. The original gear knob was not available when converted back, hence different in this car. This is the original style:



ETA: It was originally for sale as an auto with the manual box to be provided alongside.


Edited by V8LM on Thursday 25th November 16:42

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gred said:
waynecyclist said:
It says in the advert It was delivered from new in the ultimate V600 specification package including a close-ratio 5 speed gearbox, is that not the case then
A friend had a 550 which Works Service converted to V600 spec and it had the five speed box. He also had one of the super rare V600 convertibles which came with a six speed box from the factory.
V8 Vantage Volante Special Edition. thumbup

The 5 speed conversation in the V600 is actually the same 6 speed ZF box with sixth blanked off and a longer diff added. This reduced the 0 - 60 time for the V600 to 3.9 seconds, mainly because the car can do 62 mph in first gear.

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Davey S2 said:
Steering wheel is from a Lincoln I think.
Yup (without the buttons).

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markcoznottz said:
You have to admire the ingenuity to make something out of nothing. Far cheaper to change the diff rather than the box. Back when 0-60 actually meant something.
True. The V600 changed from 3.54 to 3.31.

The very first cars were 3.77, which were a handful to say the least

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Yes, but there is a World of difference between a Virage and a Vantage. Completely different cars.

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waynecyclist said:
It says in the advert It was delivered from new in the ultimate V600 specification package including a close-ratio 5 speed gearbox, is that not the case then
Being a complete nerd on these, this car doesn't have the 'ultimate V600 specification' as it doesn't have the Supersports exhaust.

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barchetta_boy said:
If that thing develops a genuine 600bhp I'll eat my hat

It got monstered by an Esprit V8 on Clarkson's vid. No way does it do 0-100 in 10.1s
Wouldn’t be far off. The engines were all tested when built, but not to the red line. At 5500 rpm (red line 6500) the last engine in a Le Mans made 518 bhp. The last V8 (in a Vantage Volante Special) made 519 bhp.

The original blueprint engine in the prototype, which was quoted at 550, made over 600 (612 IIRC).

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waynecyclist said:
Vee12V said:
IIRC it takes 17 hours to change the spark plugs on these.
It is also engine out to replace the supercharger drive belt from what I understand.
Service charge was 13 hours for the plugs. The belts can be changed without removing the engine.

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LotusOmega375D said:
It’s odd how so many people think that the original Virage competes with the Cygnet for the title of Worst Aston Martin Ever. But when AM flares the wheel arches and bolts on a couple of superchargers, it’s transformed into the ultimate He-Man pin-up, with a £500k price tag. Bloody lovely though.
Shhhssshhh!

It's my only shot of getting one!
laugh Virage is a great car and fantastic value if looked after. There is very little shared between the Virage and the Vantage though.