Moose test anyone

[300bhp/ton]

Just reading Wikipedia and stumbled across this.

I'm sure we all remember the famed Merc A class failing this test. Well it seems the mag publishes stats for all the cars it tests.

Obviously the website isn't in English: http://www.teknikensvarld.se/algtest-snabbaste-bil...




Oddly though, it seems a Citroen Xantia is the car to beat.

Car	Highest (km/h)
Citroën Xantia Activa V6 -99	85
Porsche 996 GT2 -04	82
Porsche 997 Carrera 4S -08	82
Porsche 997 GT3 RS -08	82
Porsche 997 GT2 -08	81,5
Porsche 997 Carrera S -08	81
Porsche 997 Carrera S Cabriolet -05	81
Audi R8 4,2 FSI -08	80
Chevrolet Corvette C6 -05	80
Opel Omega 2,2 (sportchassi) -00	80
Nissan 350Z -04	79
Porsche Boxster S -08	79
BMW Z4 sDrive35i -10	78
Ford Focus RS -10	78
Porsche 997 Turbo Cabriolet -08	78
Porsche Cayman -08	78
BMW 330xd Coupé -07	77,5
Audi S8 -06	77
BMW M3 Coupé -07	77
BMW M3 Sedan -08	77
Mazda MX-5 20th Anniversary -10	77
Opel Corsa 1,2 Twinport Enjoy -05	77
Porsche Cayman S (PDK) -10	77
Audi A5 Coupé 3,0 TDI quattro -07	76
Honda Civic Type-R -10	76
Nissan 370Z -10	76
Porsche Panamera S -10	76
Porsche Panamera Turbo -10	76
Volkswagen Golf GTI -10	76
Mercedes C 63 AMG -08	75,5
Mercedes E 350 CGI Cabriolet -10	75,5
Alfa Romeo 156 GTA Sportwagon -02	75
Audi S5 -07	75
Ford Fiesta 1,25 Trend -09	75
Ford Mondeo 2,0 16V -01	75
Ford Mondeo ST220 -02	75
Kia Cee´d 1,6 EX -07	75
Lotus Exige S -07	75
Mercedes E 63 AMG -10	75
Mercedes SLS AMG -10	75
Saab 9-5 Aero SportCombi -04	75
Saab 9-5 SportSedan 2,3t -00	75
Skoda Octavia RS -10	75
Toyota MR2 -00	75
Volkswagen Golf 1,6 Trendline 5d -04	75
Volkswagen Lupo 3L TDI -00	75
Volvo S60 2,4 140 hk -01	75
Audi S5 Cabriolet -10	74,5
Audi A4 Avant 2,0 FSI -04	74
BMW 318i Touring -10	74
BMW 325i -06	74
BMW 325i Cabriolet -07	74
Citroën Berlingo HDi 92 -09	74
Honda Civic 1,8 Sport -07	74
Hyundai i20 1,4 Comfort -10	74
Mazda MX-5 2,0 Roadster -06	74
Mazda MX-5 Roadster Coupé -09	74
Opel Tigra TwinTop 1,8 -07	74
Opel Vectra 3,2 GTS -03	74
Peugeot 207 XS 1,6 -06	74
Saab 9-3 Cabriolet 1,9 TiD -06	74
Saab 9-3 Cabriolet Aero 2,8T -06	74
Saab 9-3 Turbo X SportCombi -08	74
Seat Ibiza 1,4 Reference -09	74
Skoda Praktik 1,4 TDI -09	74
Toyota Auris 1,6 VVT-i -07	74
Audi A4 Avant 1,8 TFSI -10	73
Audi A5 Cabriolet 2,0 TFSI -09	73
Audi Q5 2,0 TDI -09	73
BMW 335i Cabriolet -10	73
BMW X3 xDrive20d -09	73
BMW Z4 Coupé 3,0si -06	73
Ford StreetKa -03	73
Kia Rio 1,6 Sport -06	73
Mazda 6 2,0 Kombi -08	73
Mazda MX-5 Roadster Coupé -07	73
Mercedes E 350 -05	73
Mitsubishi Colt 1,3 Cleartec -10	73
Mitsubishi Lancer 2,0D Sportsedan -09	73
Opel Astra TwinTop 1,6T -07	73
Peugeot 207 CC 1,6 -07	73
Peugeot 308 2,0 HDi Premium -09	73
Saab 9-5 SportCombi Aero 2,3T -06	73
Skoda Octavia RS -05	73
Smart Roadster -03	73
Toyota Corolla 1,6 -08	73
Toyota iQ 1,0 VVT-i -09	73
Volkswagen Golf BlueMotion -10	73
Volkswagen Passat CC TSI 160 -08	73
Volkswagen Polo 1,4 16V -05	73
Ford S-Max 2,2 TDCi Titanium -09	72,5
Peugeot 407 Coupé V6 2,7 HDi -07	72,5
Audi A4 Allroad 2,0 TDI quattro -09	72
Audi A4 Avant 2,0T Proline -05	72
Audi A5 1,8 TFSI -08	72
BMW 530d -08	72
BMW 530i xDrive -09	72
BMW 650Ci -06	72
BMW 750Li -09	72
Chrysler Crossfire -04	72
Citroën C6 3,0 V6 Exclusive -06	72
Ford Mondeo 2,0 Ghia Kombi -03	72
Lexus GS 450h -09	72
Mercedes S 500 L -06	72
Mercedes SLK 200 Kompressor -07	72
Mini Cooper Cabriolet -09	72
Nissan Micra C+C 1,6 -07	72
Opel Astra 2,0T -05	72
Opel Insignia 1,6 Sports Tourer -10	72
Peugeot 607 2,2 -00	72
Renault Laguna Kombi 2,0 16V -08	72
Renault Twingo 1,2 -08	72
Saab 9-3 SportCombi 2,0T -05	72
Toyota Avensis 2,0 Kombi -09	72
Volkswagen Eos 2,0 FSI -07	72
Volkswagen Polo 1,4 Masters -10	72
Volvo C30 1,6 DRIVe -10	72
Volvo V50 2,4i -05	72
Audi A3 Cabriolet 1,8 TFSI -08	71,5
BMW 330Ci -02	71,5
Opel Corsa 1,2 -07	71,5
Alfa Romeo Brera 3,2 -06	71
Audi A2 1,6 FSI -03	71
Audi A4 Avant 2,0 TDI quattro -07 (Våt bana)	71
Audi A6 Avant 2,8 FSI -07	71
Audi TT Coupé 3,2 quattro -06	71
BMW 120i -07	71
BMW 120i Cabriolet -08	71
BMW 325i Touring -05	71
Citroën C5 Tourer 2,2 HDi -08	71
Dodge Caliber 1,8 STX -07	71
Fiat Grande Punto 1,4 Dynamic -06	71
Ford Ka 1,2 Duratec - 09	71
Honda Accord 2,0 Elegance -08	71
Honda CR-V 2,2 i-CDTi Elegance -07	71
Lexus GS 300 Comfort -05	71
Mazda 2 1,3 Advance -08	71
Mazda 6 2,0 DE Kombi -08	71
Mini Cooper -07	71
Peugeot 207 1,4 VTI X-Line 5d -09	71
Peugeot 307 CC 2,0 -07	71
Renault Clio 1,2 FlexFuel -10	71
Renault Laguna 2,0 Dynamique -08	71
Renault Mégane 1,6 16V -03	71
Saab 9-3X 2,0T BioPower XWD -09	71
Skoda Fabia 1,2 Elegance -10	71
Skoda Fabia 1,4 -07	71
Skoda Octavia 1,6 FSI Elegance -04	71
Toyota Yaris 1,33 VVT-i -10	71
Volkswagen Eos 2,0 FSI Turbo -08	71
Volkswagen Jetta 1,6 -08	71
Volkswagen Polo 1,4 -07	71
Volvo C30 2,0 -07	71
Volvo C70 D5 -07	71
Volvo S40 1,8 -04	71
Volvo V70 2,0D -08	71
Volvo V70 2,5T -07	71
Volvo XC60 2,4D AWD -09	71
Audi A4 2,0 -01	70
Audi A6 Avant 3,0 TFSI quattro -09	70
Audi RS6 Sedan -02	70
Audi S5 Sportback -10	70
Audi TT RS Coupé -10	70
BMW 316d -10	70
BMW 330xi -01	70
BMW 525i Touring -07	70
BMW 645Ci -04	70
BMW 735i -02	70
BMW 750Li -06	70
BMW X3 3,0iA -04	70
Citroën Berlingo Family HDi 110 -08	70
Citroën C3 1,4 SX -05	70
Citroën C4 Picasso HDi Exclusive -09	70
Citroën Xsara 1,6 SX -02	70
Dodge Journey CRD -09	70
Fiat 500 1,4 16V Sport -07	70
Ford Focus 1,6 Trend -02	70
Ford Kuga 2,0 TDCi -09	70
Hyundai Santa Fé 2,2 CRDi Comfort -07	70
Mazda 3 1,6 -04	70
Mercedes S 320 CDI -00	70
Mercedes S 500 -02	70
Mini Cooper S -07 (Våt bana)	70
Opel Vectra 2,2 GL -01	70
Peugeot 206 1,4 -05	70
Peugeot 407 Coupé 2,2 -08	70
Peugeot Partner Teepee 1,6 HDi -08	70
Renault Kangoo Express 1,6 -09	70
Saab 9-3 SportCombi 1,8T BioPower -07	70
Saab 9-3 SportSedan 2,0T Aero -03	70
Skoda Octavia Combi 2,0 TDI 4x4 -07	70
Volkswagen Caddy Maxi Life 1,9 -08	70
Volvo S60 T5 -01	70
Volvo S60 T5 -03	70
Volvo V70 T5 -04	70
Volvo V70 XC AWD -01	70
Mercedes CLK 320 -02	69,5
Audi A3 1,8T quattro -00	69
BMW 5235i Gran Turismo -10	69
BMW X5 3,0 -01	69
Cadillac STS V6 -05	69
Ford Fiesta 1,4 -05	69
Honda Jazz 1,4 Comfort -10	69
Jaguar XF 2,7D V6 -08	69
Jaguar XK 4,2 -06	69
Lexus RX 300 -04	69
Lexus RX 400h -06	69
Mercedes B 180 NGT -09	69
Peugeot 308 CC 1,6T -09	69
Porsche Cayenne GTS -08	69
Renault Kangoo 1,5 dCi Privilege - 08	69
Saab 9-3 Cabriolet 2,0t BioPower -08	69
Seat Ibiza 1,4 16V -05	69
Skoda Superb 1,8 Ambition -08	69
Subaru Outback 2,0 TDI -09	69
Toyota Prius -10	69
Volvo C70 T5 -06	69
Volvo S80 D5 -08	69
Volvo V50 1,8F -06	69
Volvo V70 1,6D DRIVe -09	69
Volvo XC90 3,2 -06	69
Mercedes E 350 CGI BlueEfficiency -09	68,5
Alfa Romeo 156 2,5 V6 -03	68
Fiat Punto 1,2 80 hk -05	68
Fiat Stilo 1,6 Active 5d -02	68
Kia Cee´d Sporty Wagon 1,6 CRDi -07	68
Mazda MX-5 "Rödtjut" -90	68
Peugeot Bipper 1,4 HDi -09	68
Seat Altea Freetrack 2,0 TDI -08	68
Skoda Fabia 1,2 12V HTP -05	68
Subaru Lecacy 2,0D Kombi -09	68
Toyota Avensis 2,0 Business Kombi -03	68
Toyota Yaris 1,3 -05	68
Volkswagen Caddy 1,9 TDI 4Motion -09	68
Volkswagen Passat Variant 2,0 FSI Turbo -07	68
Volkswagen Transporter 2,5 TDI -09	68
Volvo S40 1,6D DRIVe -10	68
Volvo XC70 2,4D -09	68
BMW 325d -07 (Våt bana)	67,5
BMW 530i -05	67,5
Ford Mondeo 2,0 Kombi -08	67
Ford Mondeo Kombi 2,0 -07	67
Ford Transit Connect L 1,8 Duratorq 110 -09	67
Honda Insight -10	67
Hyundai Getz 1,3 GLS -05	67
Hyundai i10 1,1 E-Sense -08	67
Lexus RX 300 -06	67
Mercedes C 180 Kompressor -08 (Våt bana)	67
Mercedes GLK 320 CDI 4Matic -09	67
Mitsubishi Colt 1,1 -05	67
Nissan Micra 1,2 Stylance -05	67
Opel Antara 2,0 CDTi Cosmo -07	67
Peugeot 306 GTI -00	67
Porsche Cayenne V6 -08	67
Renault Clio 1,2 16V -05	67
Renault Koleos 2,0 dCi 175 hk -09	67
Saab 9-3 SportCombi 2,0T Linear -08 (Våt bana)	67
Smart Fortwo -07	67
Suzuki Swift 1,5 -05	67
Volkswagen Golf GTI -00	67
Volkswagen Golf GTI Edition 30 -07 (Våt bana)	67
Volkswagen Tiguan 2,0 TDI 170 -09	67
Volvo S40 1,8F -08	67
BMW 320i Touring -08 (Våt bana)	66,5
Chevrolet Kalos 1,2 SE -05	66
Citroën Jumpy HDi 120 -09	66
Ford Focus 1,6 TDCi Duratorq ECOnetic -10	66
Ford Focus Kombi Flexifuel -07	66
Honda Civic 1,6i LS -02	66
Jaguar X-Type 2,2 D Classic -08 (Våt bana)	66
Seat Leon 1,8 20V T -00	66
Subaru Impreza 2,0D -09	66
Volvo V50 1,6D -07	66
Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon 2,2 JTS -08 (Våt bana)	65
BMW 745iA -02	65
Citroën Xsara VTS -00	65
Dacia Van 1,5 dCi -09	65
Jeep Patriot 2,0 CRD Limited -07	65
Mercedes A 160 -00	65
Opel Vectra Kombi 3,0 CDTi V6 Cosmo -08 (Våt bana)	65
Peugeot 307 1,6 XT -02	65
Toyota Corolla 1,6 -02	65
Toyota Corolla 1,6 Linea Sol -04	65
Toyota Yaris Verso 1,3 -00	65
Volkswagen Golf Variant TSI 140 -07	65
Volvo V50 D5 -07 (Våt bana)	65
Ford Fusion 1,6i Elegance -03	64
Lexus IS 220d -07 (Våt bana)	64
Peugeot 4007 2,2 HDi -08	64
Saab 9-3 SportCombi Aero 1,9 TTiD -08 (Våt bana)	64
Skoda Octavia Scout 2,0 TDI -09	63,5
Chrysler Grand Voyager 2,8D -08	63
Daewoo Nubira 1,8 SX -04	63
Ford Galaxy 2,0 TDCi Trend -08	63
Mitsubishi iMiev -09	63
Nissan X-Trail 2,0 dCi SE -07	63
Volkswagen Passat Variant 2,0 FSI 4Motion -07	63
Land Rover Freelander 1,8  -03	62
Subaru Forester 2,0X -08	62
Maybach 62 -08	61
Nissan Navara 2,5 dCi LE 171 hk-07	61
Lexus RX 300 -01	60
Renault Laguna 1,8 16V -01	60
Think City -09	60
Volkswagen Passat 1,8T -01	60
Hyundai Trajet 2,7 GLS -05	57
Mitsubishi L200 Ralliart -07	57
Toyota Hilux 2,5 D-4D D-Cab SR H.G. -07	57
Chevrolet Trailblazer LTZ -01	56
Ford S-Max TD 140 -07 (Våt bana)	55
Isuzu D-Max 3,0 D Crew Cab -07	55
Range Rover V8 -02	55
Citroën C4 Picasso HDi -07 (Våt bana)	54
Ford Ranger Double Cab XLT Limited -07	54
Mazda BT-50 Double Cab Exclusive -07	54

[300bhp/ton]

davepoth said:

Max_Torque said:

The mighty Xantias cornering prowess

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09-C33SrJi8


Perfectly illustrating the phyisics involved! That car didn't have any significant body roll, and yet it understeered horribly about 5 car widths away from the apex.

As said before, just because it doesnt roll much doesnt mean it's suddenly a tarmac terroist......

That wasn't understeer. And did you notice the speed?

Edited by davepoth on Sunday 31st October 19:00

watching it, it looked fast with a very nice 1950's style 4 wheel drift. I certainly wouldn't call it understeer either.

[300bhp/ton]

james_gt3rs said:

300bhp/ton said:

I certainly wouldn't call it understeer either.

It missed the apex by a mile though.

So how is that understeer?

[300bhp/ton]

Debaser said:

How much more lateral G can a Xantai Activa generate over a standard Xantia?

That is a good question and one I'd like to know the answer too. Also what affect does it have on an equal car setup on a circuit active and passive suspension with the same driver.