Why does four wheel drive hurt 0-60 times?

Why does four wheel drive hurt 0-60 times?

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jon-

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Recently I've been watching old top gears / clarkson dvds and one thing has started to annoy me.

Whenever there's a 4wd vs rwd drag race, they always claim that the 4wd is at a disadvantage due to "bogging down off the line"

Now I'd understand that if we were talking about a Fiat Panda 4x4, but it's usually serious bits of kit with more than enough power to spin up all 4 wheels, meaning 4wd can only be an advantage.

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jimbobsimmonds said:
My understanding is down to greater transmission losses because the engine has to get all of those drive shafts and differentials up to speed as well...
I would agree, but only in a lesser powered car. Cars like the RS4 could spin all 4 wheels with ease, so any transmission losses are nullified.

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balls-out said:
I suspect that the clutch can't transmit the required torque to spin up all 4 wheels at once on a dry grippy surface
Now that's something I'd not thought of.

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chard said:
jon- said:
jimbobsimmonds said:
My understanding is down to greater transmission losses because the engine has to get all of those drive shafts and differentials up to speed as well...
I would agree, but only in a lesser powered car. Cars like the RS4 could spin all 4 wheels with ease, so any transmission losses are nullified.
Have you ever driven an RS4? If you tried to spin all 4 wheels you would just wreck the clutch.
I didn't say it could be mechanically friendly, but when is Top Gear ever nice to the press cars!

That said, I've not driven an RS4 so if you're saying a full RPM, side step the clutch launch wouldn't spin up all 4 tyres I'd believe you (but be a little surprised)

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Good to know if I ever end in a RS4 (I'm more an M3 person though)

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pwd95 said:
It's all down to the laws of Physics chaps.
Are there any 4x4 dragsters?.........
Ask the dragster guys why............

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busta said:
jon- said:
pwd95 said:
It's all down to the laws of Physics chaps.
Are there any 4x4 dragsters?.........
Ask the dragster guys why............

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What good would driving the front wheels do when they hardly touch the ground? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzlXbwnTCQ8&lis...
Ah ok, I thought there was some actual science I'd missed in a road car application (eg non-wheelie!)