Is this a fair price for a 'leggy' gen 1 comfort gt3?

Is this a fair price for a 'leggy' gen 1 comfort gt3?

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Saturday 1st December 2018
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i keep reading about mileage sensitivity with these so wanted to get the expert view

its far from my target spec but at the same time i dont want to be waiting forever so would consider getting into a stop gap car if i didnt have to take a bath when i get out of it and into the cs

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

the very leggy one that has popped up again and this time on AT is def not under consideration


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Saturday 1st December 2018
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i can see merit in both arguments but i also know that the the guards red cs and the rs green cs at wilmslow sold at or very close to their respective asking prices of 85 and 91

i could certainly live with a comfort because the difference between the 2 is not worth 20 to me at least.. different story if the cs was out there for 70 but i dont see that happening given the trade bid still seems really strong for a decent below average miles cs

that cobalt blue one at cameron is nice but is 89!

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Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Kettmark said:
I think the mileage is probably putting people off. These cars are mileage sensitive. 68 k isn't high but if you put say 6k per year on it the mileage is going to be up there in 3 or 4 years.
Personally it wouldn't bother me as I'm looking for a daily driver to keep so not worried about cs spec.
If your heart is set in a cs, get a vs not a stop gap.
youve been looking for a few months so hows it coming along?

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Sunday 2nd December 2018
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MDL111 said:
but be aware you might have a 10k service bill at some point (or a lot more if the engine needs a rebuild)
i never factored that into my decision making... is it really that likely?

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GT4RS said:
Apparently 10k is the magic number to bring these cars up to scratch.
Curious. Can you break that 10k down for me?

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Sunday 2nd December 2018
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hence my long hiatus from PH for many years!

hoping that this thread is kept close to the point with facts and direct personal experiences as im genuinely seeking advice and help as i dip toe back into pork world!

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Sunday 2nd December 2018
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It has steels as confirmed by vendor.

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Sunday 2nd December 2018
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Cunno said:
Ferrari isn't a Porsche, no one is saying big bill can't come but buy wise and running cost can be kept reasonable

Porsche Gt3 v Sud

Scuderia this year (from memory)
- 3.5k for exhaust back box £750 on eBay new OPC
- 1.8k for brake pads £600 all 4 corners
- 1.7k for tyres £1200
- 4K for warranty believe £1500
- 3.7k for big service £650 from an Indy
consistent with my expectations and id be budgeting roughly 1k per annum for the warranty

for work id likely be using jzm or fearnsport but likely not an opc but would spanner myself on some things

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Sunday 2nd December 2018
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evodarren said:
RC1
It could be the 997.1 GT3 may not be for you.
If your that worried about depreciation, refresh costs on an 11 year old car, maybe go do something newer.
If you do convince yourself that a GT3 is for you I can say I’ve owned mine for 6 years. It had 9,000 miles when I got it. Now has nearly 38,000 . I’ve loved every minute. Always had OPC warranty and just renewed for another 2 years. It still feels as tight as when I got it, had mine front shocks rebuilt by Centre Gravity as one had a squeeky DU bush, other than that anything else covered by warranty.
im almost certain its the right car for me at the moment. just want to go in with my eyes open with a view to total cost of likely ownership regardless of outlay. both my other cars and bike are all over 10 years old and whilst they do cost to keep them in fine fettle, over the long run, its all been very reasonable.

my sorely missed 964 c4 was set up by chris at cg many moons ago when he had not yet reached the hero status he has now!

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Monday 3rd December 2018
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Steve Rance said:
To the OP. I think that is a reasonable price. Just get the car checked over by a good GT3 specialist and get them to include a leak down test on the engine. Don’t be put off by the mileage. These cars are very tough. Also don’t be put off by worries of big bills. Providing the car has had a decent life you will be fine. I would define decent life as one where the engine has been warmed up before high revving, oils changed regularly and generally driven with mechanical sympathy. Track work is not an issue if the car is well driven

The 996/7 GT3’s are more driver focused in that more is required by the driver to enable the extraction of their performance. Therefore it stands to reason that the driver will also have a bigger input in the overal mechanical condition when he or she comes to sell it on.

There are many higher mileage cars that have been driven very hard on track for much of their lives which i’d Be happy to drive and there are many with low mileages that have spent all of those time on the road that I would consider.

If you are not obsessed with resales and the car stacks up then why not? It’s a lot of car for the money. The halo CS versions are in reality no different to a comfort. The bucket seats and cages are handy if you are tracking the car but that’s it. The true character of the 997 GT3 is its engine/drive train and chassis and they are the same for both the clubbie and comfort.

My only caviet is that you think twice about a car with ceramics. They will bring almost nothing to the experience and If you are worried about big bills they could well be the chief culprit.

Without apprearing morbid, you are one day closer to dying tomorrow. This forum is full of people who are expert in valuing absolutely everything but the value of their own time.

Edited by Steve Rance on Monday 3rd December 10:33
Great points really well made Steve thanks

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Cunno said:
Matt at Fearnsport is my Indy and would recommend.
and the chap that takes care of my 2 wheeled toy is literally around the corner so happy days

do fearnsport work with more GT cars? its the impression i get but more based on hearsay rather than fact

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Monday 3rd December 2018
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D.no said:
Huzzah!

Spot on.

Pick mine up on Saturday....
Spill beans!

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Monday 3rd December 2018
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Waiting for you to view it first!

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BertBert said:
The one I have a deposit on is going to Matt on Wednesday for a full ppi and leakdown test.

Let's hope it fares well. I think it will!

Bert
i have a feeling it might be a white one?!

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Monday 3rd December 2018
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D.no said:
Stratstone Nottingham.
yep noticed it had gone... is it GT silver?

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Tuesday 4th December 2018
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maybe red?!

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Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Congrats. It looked very tidy. Pics please when you get it and have wiped the drool off!

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Thursday 6th December 2018
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Pretty poorly but mainly me not wanting to pay what people want

I saw the guards red cs that was very tidy and was convinced it would be there forever. How wrong was i

I'm setting my sights lower now in terms of spec and budget


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Thursday 6th December 2018
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Prob best not to talk numbers here but I'm confident it's enough to get me into one but likely not a low mile cs and more likely a leggy comfort

If you have any ideas by all means please pm me

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Wednesday 12th December 2018
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it has gone awol