992 sooo many options, finer details and worthy upgrades!
Discussion
Koln-RS said:
Personally, I would go for the base model, with the minimal options.
Not sure what else it really needs.
Only thing I would like is pccbs, but you have to go for the bigger wheels, which I think are unnecessary.
I’m of the school that believes a 911 should only have the options it really needs.
Dynamic improvements, yes, but automated driver aids, as few as possible.
Interesting. The last thing I was thinking of was the PCCB on the 911 Carrera’s, best thing about them On other cars was the lack of dust (no big deal now as everyone has grey or black alloys) and fade but you’d need to be heavy lapping to notice. Not sure what else it really needs.
Only thing I would like is pccbs, but you have to go for the bigger wheels, which I think are unnecessary.
I’m of the school that believes a 911 should only have the options it really needs.
Dynamic improvements, yes, but automated driver aids, as few as possible.
dgswk said:
Things I specced and wouldnt bother with again? Reversing camera, its crap. PASM (-10mm) and Sport Chrono - maybe not, same with auto-wipers / mirrors (dont need dimming mirrors with tinted glass)
Things I wish I'd specced? Satin platinum rather than satin black wheels (OPC recommendation, why oh why did I listen) and the Aerokit, but would suspect I would not have got it up my drive. So maybe front lift and radar cruise in lieu of above.
Things I'm pleased I specced.... BOSE, PSE, Sportex / Sport Plus seats, auto-fold mirrors and tinted glass.
Things I definitely would not spec.... 4S, Rear Wheel Steer, PCCB's, in fact as mentioned above, 18 way seats, expensive leather interiors. You really dont need a lot on these, keep them simple.
Think someone on here suggested keeping the extras to 10% of list?
Thanks for the suggestions.Things I wish I'd specced? Satin platinum rather than satin black wheels (OPC recommendation, why oh why did I listen) and the Aerokit, but would suspect I would not have got it up my drive. So maybe front lift and radar cruise in lieu of above.
Things I'm pleased I specced.... BOSE, PSE, Sportex / Sport Plus seats, auto-fold mirrors and tinted glass.
Things I definitely would not spec.... 4S, Rear Wheel Steer, PCCB's, in fact as mentioned above, 18 way seats, expensive leather interiors. You really dont need a lot on these, keep them simple.
Think someone on here suggested keeping the extras to 10% of list?
I think the 10% idea is hard to do in reality, around 15% is probably more like it in true man maths.
Going RS alloys, for the style and not being black. 4-way sports plus seats are the rear ones will be used a lot. I think sports Chrono is now a must have residual wise.
gred said:
Had mine a year now.
Likes: PCCB's, 18 ways, sports exhausts for the look more than the sound, Bose, pdk, PDDC/RWS, Sports steering wheel, factory fit ppf
Neutral: Carbon bits and bobs, but don't like the standard dark silver, wheels, like most of the styles, lane change assist, seems a bit hit and miss.
Wouldn't bother again: seat ventilation, sunroof,
Wish I'd had: Nothing I can think of
Get the sent vents, tried one and wasn’t that impressed, sunroof, solid or glass?Likes: PCCB's, 18 ways, sports exhausts for the look more than the sound, Bose, pdk, PDDC/RWS, Sports steering wheel, factory fit ppf
Neutral: Carbon bits and bobs, but don't like the standard dark silver, wheels, like most of the styles, lane change assist, seems a bit hit and miss.
Wouldn't bother again: seat ventilation, sunroof,
Wish I'd had: Nothing I can think of
5050 said:
Less is more I think.. If I specced my 4S again I would delete the following
Sports exhaust (although it looks better it was hard to tell noise wise from standard)
Burmester - mine sounded awful but there were some quality control problems on early cars. The Bose in my 992TS is far better.
PDCC & RAS
Vented seats
Wish I had specced the following
2S
-10mm PASM
Bose
Keyless entry.
Great so I have 3 out of 4 on your time again list, had enough of putting a key in a pouch.Sports exhaust (although it looks better it was hard to tell noise wise from standard)
Burmester - mine sounded awful but there were some quality control problems on early cars. The Bose in my 992TS is far better.
PDCC & RAS
Vented seats
Wish I had specced the following
2S
-10mm PASM
Bose
Keyless entry.
findtomdotcom said:
I might be a bit late, but hopefully this will be of some help to you.
I agree with the sentiment that less is more in 911 land. However, I still went for a massive spec on my 992 C4S... It's the old need v want agreement, you don't need many of the options, but I would highly recommend the following:
Alcantara (now Race-Tex) roof lining. Makes a big difference in the look and feel of the interior. I mean you don't need it, but once you see a car with it against a car without, you will very likely be convinced it is £821 well spent.
Alcantara or leather sun visors. Why does a £100k car come with nasty plastic sun visors? Very odd, but again it's £291 well spent if you "upgrade" them.
18 seats. These are fantastic, but the benefit I enjoy the most is - I think, (and I might be wrong) they get a bit lower in the car than the 14 ways.
PCCB and 10mm lower PASM. You buy a 911 because you want a sporty drive right? The PCCBs feel amazing but I think you can really feel the difference in the steering too, (yeah I know very unlikely unless you are a proper driver but indulge me). And the 10mm drop only adds more feel. That and the car just sits/looks better in general. Again once you see a non-10mm car next to a 10mm dropped car you will always see a 911 without it as the SUV version, a 911looks so wrong/high without the 10mm drop, (IMO).
Coloured seatbelts. The interiors are always dark. A simple splash of colour and or matched to stitching is a no brainer. Again it's £312 very well spent.
Bose or better. I love music and would happily pay for better sound, but the road noise in a 911 is substantial. However, the one thing I noted in my research is that it is supposedly easier to upgrade aftermarket from the Bose (because it uses a digital link) than it is the standard system. To be fair I quite like the Bose in my 992, (it is much much better than the 991.1 and 991.2) so I haven't upgraded yet.
Sport-Tex. Utterly fantastic and might be the best interior available for a 922. Add crayon stitching, (or red depending on your paint colour) and it is unmatched. I love mine.
Oh and one other thing, you only get lights in the vanity mirror if you spec the light design package. I'm sure this won't matter to you, but my wife noticed in my 991.2 when I didn't spec it...
Hope that helps.
Regards,
Tom
Thanks for the info, I’m going with the full race-tex, even if the visors are a rip off. Going to logo the arm rest as the crests are going on the seats and it’s orientation would drive me nuts. I agree with the sentiment that less is more in 911 land. However, I still went for a massive spec on my 992 C4S... It's the old need v want agreement, you don't need many of the options, but I would highly recommend the following:
Alcantara (now Race-Tex) roof lining. Makes a big difference in the look and feel of the interior. I mean you don't need it, but once you see a car with it against a car without, you will very likely be convinced it is £821 well spent.
Alcantara or leather sun visors. Why does a £100k car come with nasty plastic sun visors? Very odd, but again it's £291 well spent if you "upgrade" them.
18 seats. These are fantastic, but the benefit I enjoy the most is - I think, (and I might be wrong) they get a bit lower in the car than the 14 ways.
PCCB and 10mm lower PASM. You buy a 911 because you want a sporty drive right? The PCCBs feel amazing but I think you can really feel the difference in the steering too, (yeah I know very unlikely unless you are a proper driver but indulge me). And the 10mm drop only adds more feel. That and the car just sits/looks better in general. Again once you see a non-10mm car next to a 10mm dropped car you will always see a 911 without it as the SUV version, a 911looks so wrong/high without the 10mm drop, (IMO).
Coloured seatbelts. The interiors are always dark. A simple splash of colour and or matched to stitching is a no brainer. Again it's £312 very well spent.
Bose or better. I love music and would happily pay for better sound, but the road noise in a 911 is substantial. However, the one thing I noted in my research is that it is supposedly easier to upgrade aftermarket from the Bose (because it uses a digital link) than it is the standard system. To be fair I quite like the Bose in my 992, (it is much much better than the 991.1 and 991.2) so I haven't upgraded yet.
Sport-Tex. Utterly fantastic and might be the best interior available for a 922. Add crayon stitching, (or red depending on your paint colour) and it is unmatched. I love mine.
Oh and one other thing, you only get lights in the vanity mirror if you spec the light design package. I'm sure this won't matter to you, but my wife noticed in my 991.2 when I didn't spec it...
Hope that helps.
Regards,
Tom
Edited by findtomdotcom on Saturday 29th August 11:11
arcamalpha said:
Ascayman said:
Has anyone spec'd the rear wheel steering? Any thoughts on it?
I had it. Great at low speeds for practicality but I wasn’t a big fam at medium or high speeds as it made the car feel artificial when steering just off straight ahead. If I was ordering again I’d skip RAS and PDCC.Edited by arcamalpha on Sunday 30th August 19:42
findtomdotcom said:
I have it. I must have a different version as mine works well and I’d would 100% order again.
To be fair, I’m fairly sure the difference it makes at speed is so small I probably wouldn’t really notice if I hadn’t of ordered it. But when it comes to fast corners and low speed manurers you can tell a rear steer car from a non-rear steer car and the smaller turning circle is useful.
I think the puzzling differences we are reporting is because there are some options that compliment others really well and some that do not. If you only get rear steer and not the -10mm option, and maybe add Porsche Steering Plus (PSP), you will have a very different experience (feel) to the guy that has rear steer with PCCB, -10mm sports suspension and wisely did not order the truly awful PSP...
I thought the PSP only changed the lower speed manoeuvring steering speed and nothing else? To be fair, I’m fairly sure the difference it makes at speed is so small I probably wouldn’t really notice if I hadn’t of ordered it. But when it comes to fast corners and low speed manurers you can tell a rear steer car from a non-rear steer car and the smaller turning circle is useful.
I think the puzzling differences we are reporting is because there are some options that compliment others really well and some that do not. If you only get rear steer and not the -10mm option, and maybe add Porsche Steering Plus (PSP), you will have a very different experience (feel) to the guy that has rear steer with PCCB, -10mm sports suspension and wisely did not order the truly awful PSP...
After a few months on the road and less miles due to current restrictions than I’d like there’s a few daily options that I’d happily spec again. If its just a toy then maybe not.
Surround View, I’ve had this on far longer cars but its still dead handy as the rear haunches do fill a lot of mirror. Also handy for tight exits with front camera. Also although they are powered the mirror wont dip unless you have memory seats, so the side view saves alloys.
Auto dim mirrors, on a low car everything lights them up and saves getting dazzled. Powered saves them getting whacked when parked up and a visual reminded its locked.
RWS, along with switching lanes at higher speeds, like its on rails. I think it takes about 50cm off the turning circle which means tight car parks and low speed stuff is sixpence stuff. Track review will need to wait.
PSE, although a rip off, its a must to give a bit more volume from the engine. Plus its easy to turn off if you need a stealthy return from the long way back....
Glass sunroof, another rip off but on a darker interior it helps brighten thing up. No idea if it open yet but will find out in the coming months...
Race-Tex, crests, alloy type as all subjective so I’ll leave those alone.
Surround View, I’ve had this on far longer cars but its still dead handy as the rear haunches do fill a lot of mirror. Also handy for tight exits with front camera. Also although they are powered the mirror wont dip unless you have memory seats, so the side view saves alloys.
Auto dim mirrors, on a low car everything lights them up and saves getting dazzled. Powered saves them getting whacked when parked up and a visual reminded its locked.
RWS, along with switching lanes at higher speeds, like its on rails. I think it takes about 50cm off the turning circle which means tight car parks and low speed stuff is sixpence stuff. Track review will need to wait.
PSE, although a rip off, its a must to give a bit more volume from the engine. Plus its easy to turn off if you need a stealthy return from the long way back....
Glass sunroof, another rip off but on a darker interior it helps brighten thing up. No idea if it open yet but will find out in the coming months...
Race-Tex, crests, alloy type as all subjective so I’ll leave those alone.
jdwoodbury said:
For me the car seems to be very road surface dependant. Going round the M25 some sections its super loud in the car and clearly the noise is transmitted through the rear wheel wells. I came out of a C63S Coupe and this thing is much louder in comparison....but once you hit better roads it quietens down on a cruise. Its a sports car so I expected a bit of this, I just don't see how the glass will cut down on this noise as its being transmitted through the body, the glass would only quieten ambient noise outside the car (other road traffic).
Agree, I try to avoid lots of motorways but the noise seem to be from the arches, not sure how much the glass would help. On euro smooth roads I can see it being a benefit bit not on ours. Even the odd bit of gravel sounds like its entered the cabin sometimes. You either turn the music or the revs up...Edited by jdwoodbury on Wednesday 3rd March 16:48
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