Can you buy a decent spec 991.2 GT3 for under £120K?
Discussion
To save a battle going on and confusing the hell out of the cayman thread thus argument started on ( and is still raging on)
I have created anew thread to continue this debate
Must admit I find it interesting how different people see issues such as
Spec, No. Owners, Lift, Ceramic, Buckets etc
I have created anew thread to continue this debate
Must admit I find it interesting how different people see issues such as
Spec, No. Owners, Lift, Ceramic, Buckets etc
So far this is the best spec 991.2 GT3 car found but apparently it is not the correct spec
https://www.alastairbols.com/cars/porsche-991-2-gt...
https://www.alastairbols.com/cars/porsche-991-2-gt...
Koln-RS said:
If I was buying a 991.2 GT3 I would want ‘road’ spec.
So, ideally, it would be a Touring, but they still have too much of a premium, although I expect this to normalise when the 992 GT3 Touring arrives in the coming months.
In the meantime, if I had to have one with the big wing, it would be manual or PDK - both have their merits, PCCBs - I think the benefits elevate a Porsche at this level, Heated Sports Seats - more adjustment, comfort and practicality for regular use, Cruise, decent lights and sound.
I haven’t followed prices, so no idea what the true bottom line might be, but I would have thought that winter, future uncertainties (covid, brexit, economy) and the forthcoming new model will see prices soften.
Oh, and mine would not have any of the ‘halfords’ stripes.
Interesting as I would have thought that a GT3 would need 918 Bucket seatsSo, ideally, it would be a Touring, but they still have too much of a premium, although I expect this to normalise when the 992 GT3 Touring arrives in the coming months.
In the meantime, if I had to have one with the big wing, it would be manual or PDK - both have their merits, PCCBs - I think the benefits elevate a Porsche at this level, Heated Sports Seats - more adjustment, comfort and practicality for regular use, Cruise, decent lights and sound.
I haven’t followed prices, so no idea what the true bottom line might be, but I would have thought that winter, future uncertainties (covid, brexit, economy) and the forthcoming new model will see prices soften.
Oh, and mine would not have any of the ‘halfords’ stripes.
Ideally for me it would be comfort seats but with rear seats . Family car during the week and fun / track car by night / weekends but for some reason you cant have a rear seats
Also why is the Touring is highly rated? Is it not just a GT3 minus wing or is there more to it. Never ever looked at them as way out my piggy bank range.
I do agree that with major economic uncertainty that prices will have to be adjusted........ but I thought that after the lockdown and some of the cars I was looking at have gone up by 10K so who knows what will happen next
Cheib said:
It is just a GT3 minus it’s wing but there are only around 50 in the country and people love the under stared looks....I think a lot get used as daily’s.
The big difference as a driver is 918 buckets sit you lower in the car, the folding buckets are higher (I guess because of the folding mechanism) which given that the ideal driving position is to have your arse as close to the floor as possible is a very good reason to have them. I am just over 6 ft and don’t like the folding buckets because of that. Some people complain that if you have a helmet on the 918’s are too upright but I don’t find that is a problem.
I can see the attraction of comfort seats but if you want to track the car buckets are a must in my opinion.
Thanks for clarifyingThe big difference as a driver is 918 buckets sit you lower in the car, the folding buckets are higher (I guess because of the folding mechanism) which given that the ideal driving position is to have your arse as close to the floor as possible is a very good reason to have them. I am just over 6 ft and don’t like the folding buckets because of that. Some people complain that if you have a helmet on the 918’s are too upright but I don’t find that is a problem.
I can see the attraction of comfort seats but if you want to track the car buckets are a must in my opinion.
I see why people go for either buckets and Comfort. I really like the buckets other than getting out of them lol
Imagine a Gt3 Touring with rear seats as well .A real sheep in wolfs clothing and perfect as a daily
I see why prices are silly if only 50 in the UK
Porsche911R said:
Imo no debate to have !
Cars are valued on list price, miles and age.(in the main)
Yes some options will aid a quicker sale for sure.
And some missing options will stunt a fast sale.
Can you buy a GT3 for £120k , yes £115k even.
Can you buy a del miles, manual , PCCB, CS , LED, lift car with all the spec on a 18 plate, for £120k NO.
Debate over.
Even the CC auction big spec manual car went for big money was that also £135k in a auction !
You don’t get people on the Ferrari forum moaning a £200k car is £135k !!! It’s a stupid debate.
As for right spec, that’s easy the spec YOU want.
As for this thread close it down it’s stupid.
Silly question but why would you want a del miles 18 plate car that has been sitting around for 2-3 years. It really foes nothing but harm them. Better to have a car that as some kind of regular use surely Cars are valued on list price, miles and age.(in the main)
Yes some options will aid a quicker sale for sure.
And some missing options will stunt a fast sale.
Can you buy a GT3 for £120k , yes £115k even.
Can you buy a del miles, manual , PCCB, CS , LED, lift car with all the spec on a 18 plate, for £120k NO.
Debate over.
Even the CC auction big spec manual car went for big money was that also £135k in a auction !
You don’t get people on the Ferrari forum moaning a £200k car is £135k !!! It’s a stupid debate.
As for right spec, that’s easy the spec YOU want.
As for this thread close it down it’s stupid.
Plus the difference between del miles and average miles is only about 4-6k for a 2018 car so hardly worth getting worked up about
Lastly I you find and buy a del miles car and then god forbid you use it you will lose the premium you have paid for the del miles , so again surely worth buying a used average miles car and using it ?
jcosh said:
For the love of God, why why why do we need this thread? It’s been done to death!
We all know that GT3’s are great, but only if in a particular spec and a certain person on here will be so vocal about what’s right and wrong that it will make my sh!t! itch.
EvoSid, we’ve already concluded what the best car is for your requirements and it’s not a GT3 with or without buckets, nor is it a GTS. We also know that GT3’s are approx £50K more than a GT4.
This is not for me .We all know that GT3’s are great, but only if in a particular spec and a certain person on here will be so vocal about what’s right and wrong that it will make my sh!t! itch.
EvoSid, we’ve already concluded what the best car is for your requirements and it’s not a GT3 with or without buckets, nor is it a GTS. We also know that GT3’s are approx £50K more than a GT4.
This debate was causing total confusion on the GT4 thread page and someone said can we continue the they inked the debate on a new thread so I started it and linked it to the debate
GT3 Way too fast for my skills, way too big as a 2 seater (as a 4 seater it would be great) and way out my Max budget. But it does look good.
But after seeing my mates 720S in Napier green if I ever wanted to spend £120K I would have Mclaren it sounds and looks amazing. Funnily he is thinking of swapping it for a 911 as it could be more of a daily as he hardly uses his 720S but it continues to cost money in depreciation etc
Deansfield said:
FAR too much talk about prices/ spec etc
Daft thread right enough, let’s read more from the buyers/ user’s experiences with their cars
evo sid needs to get his car bought
I am with you too many cars not getting enough use.Daft thread right enough, let’s read more from the buyers/ user’s experiences with their cars
evo sid needs to get his car bought
But in my defence I was just trying to get the confusing GT3 spec debate away form the GT4 thread as it was causing havoc. Hence this thread
Can I ask a pretty simple but bizarre question> I am sure you serial buyers will have gone through this
Say I wanted to buy a car privately ( I am in Aberdeen) from say Birmingham or further south
How would I go about it
I know I can fly down , view it , test drive it, get it inspected at nearest Porsche dealer, pay for it by bank transfer, take ownership of it including keys and paper work etc
The bit I am not sure his how do I get it up to Aberdeen without driving it back up?
Once paid for where could I leave it safely and securely til I could get it picked up by a transporter as a 500 mile / 10-11 hour drive does not fill me with joy especially considering how bad the weather has been lately
Any suggestions ?
Say I wanted to buy a car privately ( I am in Aberdeen) from say Birmingham or further south
How would I go about it
I know I can fly down , view it , test drive it, get it inspected at nearest Porsche dealer, pay for it by bank transfer, take ownership of it including keys and paper work etc
The bit I am not sure his how do I get it up to Aberdeen without driving it back up?
Once paid for where could I leave it safely and securely til I could get it picked up by a transporter as a 500 mile / 10-11 hour drive does not fill me with joy especially considering how bad the weather has been lately
Any suggestions ?
Geneve said:
There is an important added complication with a private sale/purchase - if there is substantial finance.
The seller does not technically own the car - the finance company does, and this needs to be discharged before you take ownership. This can take 48hrs or longer.
You should never pay the seller and rely on them to repay the finance and the seller won't want you to take the car until he knows the finance has been settled and discharged.
Dealers don't generally have that problem as they have the car, settle the finance and then pay the difference to the seller.
But it can be messy on a 'private' sale/purchase, and it requires considerable trust on very high value vehicles, or a solicitor acts as middle man
Yes it can be a pitfall , plan would be to pay finance company diretly and then balance to Seller.The seller does not technically own the car - the finance company does, and this needs to be discharged before you take ownership. This can take 48hrs or longer.
You should never pay the seller and rely on them to repay the finance and the seller won't want you to take the car until he knows the finance has been settled and discharged.
Dealers don't generally have that problem as they have the car, settle the finance and then pay the difference to the seller.
But it can be messy on a 'private' sale/purchase, and it requires considerable trust on very high value vehicles, or a solicitor acts as middle man
I like the idea of a solicitor . Might go for that idea
Deansfield said:
More obstacles!!! Are you sure you’re looking to buy ??
Not sure anymore tbh Winter coming
Economy going into unknown
Brexit about to happen without a deal
Garage build still not past planning stage
House might be sold soon
plus 101 minot issues that go on my in my and other peoples lives
Making a purchase on a car like this is not just a financial commitment but an emotional one and sometimes it is not justbabout the money it is about many other things
All I can say is I have made a bid and dealer said no. Might go back might not
Might go for 718 as many have suggested on here might not
Does that help clarify things? lol
SC50 said:
If you are serious about a GT3, then I have one low mileage good spec in white. I am the second owner and I purchased
the car with 100 miles on the clock and the first job was to get it transported to Reep and get it sorted with ppf and paint
protection. If you are interested PM me and I paid cash to buy it.
Sorry GT3 as lovely as they are out by budget just now. Looking at a GT4 and got an offer on 2 so waiting for owners / dealers to decide ig they want to sell to me. Best of luck with the salethe car with 100 miles on the clock and the first job was to get it transported to Reep and get it sorted with ppf and paint
protection. If you are interested PM me and I paid cash to buy it.
franki68 said:
I have bought a few cars up in Scotland and driven them back south ,I’ve been to Germany to collect cars ,the drive back is always worth doing .
Normally it would not bother me but maybe with this whole covid thing and weather being so so wet makes me reluctant to drive it back up , if only it was still summer and long sunny days ........roll on next year But lets see what the dealer. / private sale comes to then we can work out how to get her home
Edited by EvoSid on Tuesday 6th October 23:02
Porsche911R said:
be about £400 to Scotland I would say.
But I would drive it.
I love the drive home in a new car and I have done it 80 times it never fails to be fun.
be it getting stuck in aM3 v8 with bold rear tyres in a hail storm up a hill !!, or drifting off a round about (by mistake) in a 996 GT3 again due to bold tyres ! getting stuck at a petrol station in a BMW CSL (not quite knowing how to start it) or even getting a speeding ticket coming from Scotland in other stuff, every car pick up is a memory.
991 GT3 picking up a brand new car in the rain and going straight to a super car meet, Xmas present for my 987 spyder pick up xmas eve.
pulling out the OPC in a 991 GTS and getting hit by a stone cracking the winscreen within 20 yards and taking it back and going home in a v8 Panaemra sport thing. DTM just laughing out loud with my mate most of the way back as the car it just the most metal thing you will drive.
Every new car pick up you can remember, don't low loader it !!!
Yes spot on £400But I would drive it.
I love the drive home in a new car and I have done it 80 times it never fails to be fun.
be it getting stuck in aM3 v8 with bold rear tyres in a hail storm up a hill !!, or drifting off a round about (by mistake) in a 996 GT3 again due to bold tyres ! getting stuck at a petrol station in a BMW CSL (not quite knowing how to start it) or even getting a speeding ticket coming from Scotland in other stuff, every car pick up is a memory.
991 GT3 picking up a brand new car in the rain and going straight to a super car meet, Xmas present for my 987 spyder pick up xmas eve.
pulling out the OPC in a 991 GTS and getting hit by a stone cracking the winscreen within 20 yards and taking it back and going home in a v8 Panaemra sport thing. DTM just laughing out loud with my mate most of the way back as the car it just the most metal thing you will drive.
Every new car pick up you can remember, don't low loader it !!!
Normally I would but with covid and time of year I am maybe being overcautious I think
I am about to go with a revised offer to both see what they say
I cant believe you have bought over 80 cars, wow that is some going and there is me trying to buy my 2nd Porsche lol
Plenty memories but knowing my luck it wil pour with rain and I will spin the bloody thing
Digga said:
retty much agree. Especially the bit I emboldened.
The thing is, too, notwithstanding that G spec rev 6 appears to have solved issues, even those power units are not really that old. Still an unkown entity.
What is the actual issue with these engines as all I know is avoid the 991.1 GT3 as the engine is made of chocolate The thing is, too, notwithstanding that G spec rev 6 appears to have solved issues, even those power units are not really that old. Still an unkown entity.
JulierPass said:
In answer to the question posed, yes you can:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202009083...
There have been several others that have sold at this mark as well. If you have the means get it bought and ignore the rubbish posted on here about how it must only have 1 owner, do 2k miles per year and have certain options - never heard so much bulls
t in all my life. You will always sell a GT3 if it's car that has been maintained and it's priced correctly.
JulierPasshttps://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202009083...
There have been several others that have sold at this mark as well. If you have the means get it bought and ignore the rubbish posted on here about how it must only have 1 owner, do 2k miles per year and have certain options - never heard so much bulls
t in all my life. You will always sell a GT3 if it's car that has been maintained and it's priced correctly.Just to clarify I am not asking. this question ( but I am intrigued by all the various options / facts )
This was asked in the GT4 thread and it was causing so much confusion as you could not work out if people were talking GT3 or GT4.
So Id decided ( at some one else suggestion) to create a new thread, hence we have this
Now having read it it seems to be down to what you consider is
a good spec
or if you can live with the engine issues that haunt the 991.1 GT3. If you can you can almost grab a bargain as it is now near same price as a used 981 GT4
I agree with you anything will sell if it is maintained well and is priced correctly
GT4RS said:
In all fairness the spread nice between a 991.1 gt3 and a 99.2 gt3 is still around 35k.
Price will draw people to the 991.1 I guess.
Interesting to see anther 991.2 gt3 up for less than 120k, this is clearly becoming more regular
I think we are about to see some serious economic hardship as the 2nd lockdown has just started here in Scotland and it is not good for a lot of typical Porsche Owners who are also business owners etc . Many people now cancelling orders on new cars ( I have had 3 dealers contact me on 3 GT4 cancelled orders in last 10 days or so). Price will draw people to the 991.1 I guess.
Interesting to see anther 991.2 gt3 up for less than 120k, this is clearly becoming more regular
So in that basis I guess a luxury like these that does next to no miles could be good way to raise cash for some I guess. But I could be wrong again
Porsche911R said:
They fill all their build slots so they must be happy, if Porsche were unhappy with sales and had free slots on the production line they would offer more 718 Spyder and GTS slots.
You can’t buy a tacan, GT4, Spyder, turbo s etc so Porsche are still lol at it.
I dot think they can now. Maybe in the past yesYou can’t buy a tacan, GT4, Spyder, turbo s etc so Porsche are still lol at it.
One of he Porsche dealers in London ( not sure which one ) has a GT4 coming in this month and offered it to me. I asked if it was a cancel order they said no it was a spare slot they could not fill and ordered a car for stock ( seems dubious to me as I suspect it is a cancelled order) Great spec but no dual climate which could be an issue for me as I like my car hot
So going forward I can only see more and more slots being unfilled for Gt4 anyway
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