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Does anyone know when this 992 GT3 is going to get released?
I was getting excited last month when they released some pictures of it, but this month I am not as excited.
If Porsche leave it any longer I think they will have missed the wave of momentum they created.
Also, does anyone know if Porsche have an annual price increase and if so how much is that likely to be and when is it applied?
Thanks!
I was getting excited last month when they released some pictures of it, but this month I am not as excited.
If Porsche leave it any longer I think they will have missed the wave of momentum they created.
Also, does anyone know if Porsche have an annual price increase and if so how much is that likely to be and when is it applied?
Thanks!
So back to my original question, now the January release date seems to have passed are we now saying it is the 16th Feb for the GT3 release date now?
And what about the 992 GTS? does anyone know about that release date?
Because I am thinking, if the GT3 price is a silly increase I will order a GTS instead.
Thank you for any feedback.
And what about the 992 GTS? does anyone know about that release date?
Because I am thinking, if the GT3 price is a silly increase I will order a GTS instead.
Thank you for any feedback.
I would image this would firm up the price of the 991.2 GT3, especially the club sport cars, the touring cars will drop off though, as they are at a highly inflated price and the take up for manual 992 GT3 touring cars I expect will be high.
So that means 992 pdk club sport cars will be limited, which in turn means drivers that take these cars on track will have to look at the 991.2 GT3 pdk club sport cars.
If that makes any sense?!/?
So that means 992 pdk club sport cars will be limited, which in turn means drivers that take these cars on track will have to look at the 991.2 GT3 pdk club sport cars.
If that makes any sense?!/?
From what I have heard it is a very limited run this year, initial release two cars per dealer then only another two cars later in the year. If you are getting one of these cars you will have been told by now!
For the rest of us its time to look at what 991.2 GT3's are still available for this years track days and summer runs.
For the rest of us its time to look at what 991.2 GT3's are still available for this years track days and summer runs.
I think the main disappointment is the lack of a real world performance gain, it is now a high speed performance car with the aero improvement, which look like they have a great effect over 120mph.
But most UK track days are average speeds of 100mph apart from Silverstone there are very few tracks with corners that are higher than 70mph.
The new 992 should have a 25BHP increase.
There is no 0-60 performance increase, it needed to improve on that by 0.1 of a second at least.
The car is not a good looker, it is coming across as a one trick pony, developed to do a sub 7 minute lap of one track in Germany.
Plus you have to read that it was 15 seconds faster but it was fitted with the cup 2 R tyres. I've used these tyres at Donnington and they gave me an extra 2 seconds a lap, so six laps would be a 12 second improvement.
Be interesting to see what the lap times will be when EVO get it round Anglesey!
992 GT3 list price with bits on 145K flippers price 185K
991 GT3 125K
Think I might keep my 60K and buy a GT4 as a second car.
But most UK track days are average speeds of 100mph apart from Silverstone there are very few tracks with corners that are higher than 70mph.
The new 992 should have a 25BHP increase.
There is no 0-60 performance increase, it needed to improve on that by 0.1 of a second at least.
The car is not a good looker, it is coming across as a one trick pony, developed to do a sub 7 minute lap of one track in Germany.
Plus you have to read that it was 15 seconds faster but it was fitted with the cup 2 R tyres. I've used these tyres at Donnington and they gave me an extra 2 seconds a lap, so six laps would be a 12 second improvement.
Be interesting to see what the lap times will be when EVO get it round Anglesey!
992 GT3 list price with bits on 145K flippers price 185K
991 GT3 125K
Think I might keep my 60K and buy a GT4 as a second car.
Apparently first cars will get to the UK about May
Second allocation will be later this year and should be double first allocation so OPC will get 6 winged cars and probably 3 touring cars.
Allocation will be split like the GT4/spyder, they think. So two GT3's for each touring.
Next year they expect to get more cars, so I should be able to get one next year without buying the 10K watch!!
So if they get 12 cars this year you have to guess that they are getting 16 cars next year hopefully.
Flippers better be quick or it could finish like the GT4's where you can now get one under list.
I keep looking at GT4's they now look good value, but I will wait for a GT3.
Second allocation will be later this year and should be double first allocation so OPC will get 6 winged cars and probably 3 touring cars.
Allocation will be split like the GT4/spyder, they think. So two GT3's for each touring.
Next year they expect to get more cars, so I should be able to get one next year without buying the 10K watch!!
So if they get 12 cars this year you have to guess that they are getting 16 cars next year hopefully.
Flippers better be quick or it could finish like the GT4's where you can now get one under list.
I keep looking at GT4's they now look good value, but I will wait for a GT3.
Some dealers are bigger than other but lets say 7 winged cars this year times 40 dealers = 280 winged GT3's
2022 lets average it out at 10 winged GT3's thats 400 winged GT3
You would imagine another 5 cars in 2023 so that 200 winged GT3's
So 880 Winged GT3's
My dealer got 16 991.1 GT3RS cars. so if you times that by 40 that is 640 GT3RS cars, someone will know how many gen 1 GT3RS where delivered into the UK????? Please let me know.
Touring cars will be considered a separate car, makes sense to Porsche to do that, so I would guess at 440 touring cars.
Porsche now knows there is big demand for the touring. Like AP says, 'We,(Porsche) aim to produce one less car than the market demands.'
All just guess work, that's what makes the forum interesting.
The more cars the better in my opinion.
2022 lets average it out at 10 winged GT3's thats 400 winged GT3
You would imagine another 5 cars in 2023 so that 200 winged GT3's
So 880 Winged GT3's
My dealer got 16 991.1 GT3RS cars. so if you times that by 40 that is 640 GT3RS cars, someone will know how many gen 1 GT3RS where delivered into the UK????? Please let me know.
Touring cars will be considered a separate car, makes sense to Porsche to do that, so I would guess at 440 touring cars.
Porsche now knows there is big demand for the touring. Like AP says, 'We,(Porsche) aim to produce one less car than the market demands.'
All just guess work, that's what makes the forum interesting.
The more cars the better in my opinion.
Cheib said:
I think your dealer is way off to be honest PM.
According to how many left there were 310 991.1 GT3 RS...back then I think 36 OPC so an average of 8.
We got something like 650 991.2 GT3’s...you are suggesting the volume trebles ? Have a look at how many 911’s Porsche sell in the UK...you’re suggesting GT3 becomes the volume model.
I am not suggesting volume trebles, if there were 650 .2 GT3's as you say above, I am suggesting there will be 800 to 850 is that not an expected increase in turnover for a very popular model?According to how many left there were 310 991.1 GT3 RS...back then I think 36 OPC so an average of 8.
We got something like 650 991.2 GT3’s...you are suggesting the volume trebles ? Have a look at how many 911’s Porsche sell in the UK...you’re suggesting GT3 becomes the volume model.
And another poster has just said his dealer has two car in first run then 5/6 cars later in the year, so that ties in with what I said.
8x40 dealers is 320 cars this year.
Watching the lap time comparison video's on line, it all looks like high speed corners and long straights.
I can not see the 992GT3 going any faster than the standard 991.2GT3 around Anglesey when Evo magazine or someone like them get their hands on the new car.
The slower straight-line speed will negate any difference that the increase corner stability brings to the track.
Plus, it is not a good looking car, that plastic front scope needs a quick upgrade.
I can not see the 992GT3 going any faster than the standard 991.2GT3 around Anglesey when Evo magazine or someone like them get their hands on the new car.
The slower straight-line speed will negate any difference that the increase corner stability brings to the track.
Plus, it is not a good looking car, that plastic front scope needs a quick upgrade.
Edited by Purple Man on Tuesday 2nd March 15:10
Digga said,
Moot. It's pretty well accepted that a road car that goes well at the 'Ring is going to work extremely well both on road or any other circuit. That is why it's such a benchmark - the variety of turns is a pretty good test.
In fact, if you were to pick a UK circuit closest to the 'Ring, arguably Oulton is one of the prime candidates. Most different would almost certainly be Silverstone GP circuit.
Harris has already gone on record saying word to the effect of:
The GT3 horsepower war passed beyond what most road/trackday drivers could use ages ago.
In his personal opinion, the high-water mark for the GT3 was either the 997.2 Rs or 991.2 GT3 manual.
I AM SORRY THIS IS NOT CORRECT, THE RING IS ABOUT FLOWING CORNERS AND CARRYING CORNER SPEEDS IN EXCESS OF 120MPH WHERE THE NEW HIGHER LEVELS OF DOWNFORCE WILL HELP, BUT AT OULTON PARK YOU WILL NOT DO MORE THAN 70MPH AROUND MOST CORNERS AND THE FASTEST YOU WILL GO DOWN THE STRAIGHT IS 130MPH. AT ANGLESEY IT IS EVEN WORSE, MOST CORNERS YOU DO NOT GET UP TO 50 MPH ON CHURCH THE FASTEST CORNER ON THE TRACK I ONLY RECORD A PEAK SPEED OF 86MPH. SO I STAND BY WHAT I SAY A CAR DESIGNED FOR THE RING IS NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE FASTER AROUND A UK TRACK. BUT LETS SEE, 20TH APRIL IS THE DATE FOR THE RELEASE OF PRESS EMBARGO. IT MAKES IT ALL VERY INTERESTING. MY BET IS THERE WILL BE NO LAP TIME IMPROVEMENT AS LONG AS THEY USE THE SAME NON R CUP 2 TYRES.
Moot. It's pretty well accepted that a road car that goes well at the 'Ring is going to work extremely well both on road or any other circuit. That is why it's such a benchmark - the variety of turns is a pretty good test.
In fact, if you were to pick a UK circuit closest to the 'Ring, arguably Oulton is one of the prime candidates. Most different would almost certainly be Silverstone GP circuit.
Harris has already gone on record saying word to the effect of:
The GT3 horsepower war passed beyond what most road/trackday drivers could use ages ago.
In his personal opinion, the high-water mark for the GT3 was either the 997.2 Rs or 991.2 GT3 manual.
I AM SORRY THIS IS NOT CORRECT, THE RING IS ABOUT FLOWING CORNERS AND CARRYING CORNER SPEEDS IN EXCESS OF 120MPH WHERE THE NEW HIGHER LEVELS OF DOWNFORCE WILL HELP, BUT AT OULTON PARK YOU WILL NOT DO MORE THAN 70MPH AROUND MOST CORNERS AND THE FASTEST YOU WILL GO DOWN THE STRAIGHT IS 130MPH. AT ANGLESEY IT IS EVEN WORSE, MOST CORNERS YOU DO NOT GET UP TO 50 MPH ON CHURCH THE FASTEST CORNER ON THE TRACK I ONLY RECORD A PEAK SPEED OF 86MPH. SO I STAND BY WHAT I SAY A CAR DESIGNED FOR THE RING IS NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE FASTER AROUND A UK TRACK. BUT LETS SEE, 20TH APRIL IS THE DATE FOR THE RELEASE OF PRESS EMBARGO. IT MAKES IT ALL VERY INTERESTING. MY BET IS THERE WILL BE NO LAP TIME IMPROVEMENT AS LONG AS THEY USE THE SAME NON R CUP 2 TYRES.
Digga,
Don't read anything into me typing in capitals.
I could not work out how to highlight what you have said and to allow posters to differentiate between the two sets of comments I typed mine in capital letters.
I just think sometimes this chasing a ring time that they get obsessed with is not always the best idea.
Don't read anything into me typing in capitals.
I could not work out how to highlight what you have said and to allow posters to differentiate between the two sets of comments I typed mine in capital letters.
I just think sometimes this chasing a ring time that they get obsessed with is not always the best idea.
I do not understand why we have not had EVO magazine or one of the other reputable journalists do a lap time in the new 992 GT3 around the Anglesey track setting a lap time to allow us to compare it with the 991.2 GT3RS lap time.
If the 992 GT3 is faster around the UK tracks then I do feel it puts it in a higher price bracket than the 991 GT3RS as it has most of the RS features, carbon roof, carbon bonnet, suspension and the latest info system.
We need some track lap times!!
If the 992 GT3 is faster around the UK tracks then I do feel it puts it in a higher price bracket than the 991 GT3RS as it has most of the RS features, carbon roof, carbon bonnet, suspension and the latest info system.
We need some track lap times!!
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