911 Carrera S (992) availability
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I have placed an order for a new 911 C2S in Dec-2021 and I was told I should have it before the end of 2022. Well….
That was before rasPutin went mad and invaded Ukraine. Then we learned that the wiring harness is made in UA and due to supply-chain issues the timelines will be longer. Does anyone on this forum have a better insight?
On a positive side, Porsche posted fantastic financial results, boasting record sales and strong demand. Where did these cars go, looks like not to UK, as my OPC has not seen a new 911 for over six months. Second positive is that Porsche stopped shipping new cars to ruSSia. Will it make much of a difference?
I suspect I will get it in 2023, probably 992.2 model, which doesn’t worry me that much, if only I had more info with some degree of certainty, so I can plan for it.
Are any of you waiting for 911, what are your timelines?
That was before rasPutin went mad and invaded Ukraine. Then we learned that the wiring harness is made in UA and due to supply-chain issues the timelines will be longer. Does anyone on this forum have a better insight?
On a positive side, Porsche posted fantastic financial results, boasting record sales and strong demand. Where did these cars go, looks like not to UK, as my OPC has not seen a new 911 for over six months. Second positive is that Porsche stopped shipping new cars to ruSSia. Will it make much of a difference?
I suspect I will get it in 2023, probably 992.2 model, which doesn’t worry me that much, if only I had more info with some degree of certainty, so I can plan for it.
Are any of you waiting for 911, what are your timelines?
julian987R said:
By the time your slot comes up you the Sports Classic might be available.
Spied today...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZWX8nIog24
Cool idea, thanks for the reference, I wonder what is going to be the availability.Spied today...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZWX8nIog24
BorkBorkBork said:
I ordered a C4 GTS in December too. Was told 12 months initially, but now they have no idea. Finger in the air time. If I see it in 2023 I’ll be happy.
I’m hoping the rumour of a NA 4.0 992.2 with a manual box is real (I know it’s very unlikely), as I’ll switch to that if it does emerge.
992.2 with 4.0 and MT would be a worth-waiting trade-off.I’m hoping the rumour of a NA 4.0 992.2 with a manual box is real (I know it’s very unlikely), as I’ll switch to that if it does emerge.
Cheib said:
For whatever reason Porsche last year chose to throttle back on cars being delivered to the UK. Global sales were actually an all time record and in excess of pre-pandemic levels…like Apple with it’s iPhone’s it appears VW group is making sure it’s most profitable brand is getting the chips/parts it needs.
In the first three months of this year Porsche delivered 4280 cars in the UK…up 46% on the 2931 cars it delivered in the same period last year.
Now a lot of those will be Taycan’s but clearly they’re making cars When i was at my OPC ten days ago they’d just had a delivery and had four new GT4’s sat waiting to go to PDI.
I suspect what is happening with Carrera S is that any 911’s that are getting made are GTS/Turbo/GT3. They’re the most profitable cars and the newest models….same happened with 991.2. When they started making GT3 and GTS my OPC got one Carrera S in a year.
Good overview, thanks for sharing. In the first three months of this year Porsche delivered 4280 cars in the UK…up 46% on the 2931 cars it delivered in the same period last year.
Now a lot of those will be Taycan’s but clearly they’re making cars When i was at my OPC ten days ago they’d just had a delivery and had four new GT4’s sat waiting to go to PDI.
I suspect what is happening with Carrera S is that any 911’s that are getting made are GTS/Turbo/GT3. They’re the most profitable cars and the newest models….same happened with 991.2. When they started making GT3 and GTS my OPC got one Carrera S in a year.
I guess 992.2 it is then, hopefully 4.0 M/T
julian987R said:
Is it ever worth it? There are 45 992 S's for sale, the spec all blends into the 'usual-usual' - how far removed are those for sale from what your spec is? Not withstanding the supposed enjoyment of speccing from new, but surely the year long (and longer) order time (and uncertainty) why not just buy a used one?
It depends on the motivation and a purpose. It’s not my first, nor my last Porsche. However, I intend to keep it for ~5 years and I don’t want a pre-owned by 3 other blokes vehicle.Given the med-geo-political situation I am happy to wait, I will need it when life returns to normal and I can travel across Europe again… south of France, Italy, Spain… good old days 8-)
julian987R said:
250 were produced of the last Sports Classic. To all those waiting years i would throw a wobbler and say i ain't waiting two years to end up with a fuddy duddy run of the mill 992, demand to be put on a priority list.
Oi, that sounds like unobtanium, if I can’t get C2S, what is the odds they would trust me with Sports Classic?Looks like our 992 orders will become 992.2 orders. I don’t see a problem with that, if only Porsche were willing to keep us updated. I do understand that we live in volatile times, but they must have a production schedule, which is updated as the situation unfolds.
When I was a young man and driving BMWs, I used to get production slot few days after placing an order. Then they would contact me if a car with similar spec was available sooner. Sadly, with all the modern tech and scheduling systems, some manufacturers remain opaque.
Wouldn’t it be cool to have a serial number of a bespoke premium car a year in advance?
When I was a young man and driving BMWs, I used to get production slot few days after placing an order. Then they would contact me if a car with similar spec was available sooner. Sadly, with all the modern tech and scheduling systems, some manufacturers remain opaque.
Wouldn’t it be cool to have a serial number of a bespoke premium car a year in advance?
bl0498 said:
Hi
Suggest you look at the “992 Allocations to the dealers” thread on Page 3.
My C4S ordered in Mid 2021 is due to be built in June. There have been quite a few allocations for base and S models over the last couple of months - mine included and that thread shows orders are being fulfilled. I have asked my dealer recently about delays due to Ukraine and his response was that they can see their cars are still being built to the schedule they expect and they are receiving completed cars. It’s worth pointing out that 992.2 production won’t start until the second half of 2023 and will be just after a price rise as that’s how it’s normally scheduled. Russia doesn’t take many 911s so that won’t have freed up much - it’s mainly Macon’s, Cayennes etc built in
Leipzig.
Hope that helps.
Very interesting… thanks for the reference point, so you are on 12-months lead time. I can live with that. Interesting that my OPC didn’t get any 911 base and S cars in the last 6 months, so maybe its time for our allocations.Suggest you look at the “992 Allocations to the dealers” thread on Page 3.
My C4S ordered in Mid 2021 is due to be built in June. There have been quite a few allocations for base and S models over the last couple of months - mine included and that thread shows orders are being fulfilled. I have asked my dealer recently about delays due to Ukraine and his response was that they can see their cars are still being built to the schedule they expect and they are receiving completed cars. It’s worth pointing out that 992.2 production won’t start until the second half of 2023 and will be just after a price rise as that’s how it’s normally scheduled. Russia doesn’t take many 911s so that won’t have freed up much - it’s mainly Macon’s, Cayennes etc built in
Leipzig.
Hope that helps.
bl0498 said:
According to my dealer before the allocations in the last month or two their last base/S allocation was July 2021 and that car was delivered in October. Allocations are apparently being done on a strict order date basis across the UK which may explain the apparent discrepancies across dealers.
I have heard the same feedback from my OPC, I.e. order dates are reviewed across the country. I understand that Porsche GB has got central visibility of the orders with dates, but it is the DP decision who actually gets a car.I have been 4th in the C2S queue for the last 5 months (Dec—May). What are the chances of sudden production run to clear the backlog?
I am now mentally preparing myself for 2023MY vehicle, probably 992.2.
I pref the 992 front bumper and lights. The ‘sloth-eyes’ stuck on the sides of the 992.2 bumper look out of place.
I am now mentally preparing myself for 2023MY vehicle, probably 992.2.
I pref the 992 front bumper and lights. The ‘sloth-eyes’ stuck on the sides of the 992.2 bumper look out of place.
BorkBorkBork said:
Pivo said:
The ‘sloth-eyes’ stuck on the sides of the 992.2 bumper look out of place.
Do you mean the running lights the test cars are wearing? I believe those are only temporary and won’t be on the final design. Docmem said:
Pivo said:
So I am now #3 in the queue at my local OPC. The dealer doesn’t have the national sequence number, but it must be large given the number of OPC’s. I no longer believe in random events… it is a signal: enjoy the Boxster for another season and wait for the 992.2.
Can they give you any idea of the delivery? You may have no option but to wait for 992.2 but I think they are producing the car quite fast as 2 people I know their 992 are delivered 2 weeks early and so you may get it sooner, obviously it depends how many cars are delivered to the UK dealers per month - something we wouldnt know.findtomdotcom said:
Hello, thought I’d add my timeline for reference:
Ordered 992 Turbo S Jan 21.
Allocation confirmation Dec 21.
Build slot Mar 22 (moved to Apr 22).
Arrived at OPC May 22.
For SA, my dealer says it’s the only 992 Turbo S allocation he has had for 2022 so far.
Very useful reference point! Thanks for your insight.Ordered 992 Turbo S Jan 21.
Allocation confirmation Dec 21.
Build slot Mar 22 (moved to Apr 22).
Arrived at OPC May 22.
For SA, my dealer says it’s the only 992 Turbo S allocation he has had for 2022 so far.
bl0498 said:
I would just say you may get an allocation two to three months before the actual build of the car. I had my allocation in Feb 22 for a car to be built in June with delivery in July (hopefully). Spec to be done by end April.. So if you get an allocation in December you may actually see the car ready for spring 23. Hope that helps.
Yes, that is what I am expecting… I am surprised how long does it take to get an allocation. In my previous life, when I used to drive BMW, I would get an allocation days after I placed request for build to order vehicle. That was over a decade ago, on a diff continent.Gassing Station | 911/Carrera GT | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff