992 Turbo Cab or 992 Turbo S Cab?
Discussion
I'm sorry if this topic has been covered already, (although I couldn't find anything). I need to decide on which 911 Cab to buy and which will suit me best.
At present, my order is for a Carrera 4S Cab, as I knew I wanted AWD but hadn't really given much thought to the Turbo models. I knew I didn't want a GTS, as I don't want the firmer suspension set up and won't be tracking the car.
So, my spec for the 4S cab was around 145k, a Turbo Cab is coming out at around 169k, and 190k for the Turbo S.
I do prefer the more aggressive look of the Turbo variants, the question is, is the Turbo S worth the extra £££'s?
Also, as a longterm investment, will the standard Turbo be snubbed in the future, as it will be always seen as the lesser model, compared to the Turbo S?
Your thoughts and opinions would be greatly appreciated.
At present, my order is for a Carrera 4S Cab, as I knew I wanted AWD but hadn't really given much thought to the Turbo models. I knew I didn't want a GTS, as I don't want the firmer suspension set up and won't be tracking the car.
So, my spec for the 4S cab was around 145k, a Turbo Cab is coming out at around 169k, and 190k for the Turbo S.
I do prefer the more aggressive look of the Turbo variants, the question is, is the Turbo S worth the extra £££'s?
Also, as a longterm investment, will the standard Turbo be snubbed in the future, as it will be always seen as the lesser model, compared to the Turbo S?
Your thoughts and opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Edited by Mulsanne-Speed on Friday 27th May 21:20
Thanks for your comments Slaav.
TBH, I'm not going to be driving this car particularly hard, so maximum performance isn't everything. I just want some open top motoring for our holiday home in France, in a car which is smaller and more manageable than I'm used to.
If you look at the "My Garage" tab, you'll see that money really isn't the issue.
I feel that the Turbo is probably more than enough for me, so I was going that way, but I don't want to buy a model that will be considered undesirable at time of resale, because the Turbo S is the one that everyone wants.
Based on your thoughts, I think you've answered my question, and I think it probably does have to be the Turbo S.
Thanks for your help
TBH, I'm not going to be driving this car particularly hard, so maximum performance isn't everything. I just want some open top motoring for our holiday home in France, in a car which is smaller and more manageable than I'm used to.
If you look at the "My Garage" tab, you'll see that money really isn't the issue.
I feel that the Turbo is probably more than enough for me, so I was going that way, but I don't want to buy a model that will be considered undesirable at time of resale, because the Turbo S is the one that everyone wants.
Based on your thoughts, I think you've answered my question, and I think it probably does have to be the Turbo S.
Thanks for your help
Thanks Slaav
It's a really tricky one for me, while money isn't particularly tight, I'm still very much aware of it's value and I have to ask myself whether just short of £200k is too much for a sunny day holiday car.
One thing that does seem to be the case with Porsche though, is that they seem to hold their value better than almost any other premium brand, which is reassuring. Also, what I'm hearing from you, is that this really is a special car, so I'm going to go that way.
I doubt I'll be disappointed, and I suspect the extra paid at time of purchase over the standard Turbo, will likely still be there at time of resale.
Many thanks again.
It's a really tricky one for me, while money isn't particularly tight, I'm still very much aware of it's value and I have to ask myself whether just short of £200k is too much for a sunny day holiday car.
One thing that does seem to be the case with Porsche though, is that they seem to hold their value better than almost any other premium brand, which is reassuring. Also, what I'm hearing from you, is that this really is a special car, so I'm going to go that way.
I doubt I'll be disappointed, and I suspect the extra paid at time of purchase over the standard Turbo, will likely still be there at time of resale.
Many thanks again.
Thanks Taffy66 - I did notice while spec'ing the Turbo S, that some options were standard, which were at extra cost on the Turbo.
All in all, I think the difference on my builds is about £21k between the Turbo and Turbo S.
In terms of the wheel centre locks, I hear what you're saying, but isn't that only any issue when you're changing tyres? If so, as my miles will probably be quite low, I'm not sure it's a big issue, or am I missing something else?
Also, where do you stand on this Taffy - Would you go Turbo, or Turbo S?
Finally, I think I read that the 0-60 time between the two variants is 0.1 seconds - Therefore, is the Turbo S purely a case of oneupmanship, and if so, is the only real consideration here, longterm residual / resale values?
All in all, I think the difference on my builds is about £21k between the Turbo and Turbo S.
In terms of the wheel centre locks, I hear what you're saying, but isn't that only any issue when you're changing tyres? If so, as my miles will probably be quite low, I'm not sure it's a big issue, or am I missing something else?
Also, where do you stand on this Taffy - Would you go Turbo, or Turbo S?
Finally, I think I read that the 0-60 time between the two variants is 0.1 seconds - Therefore, is the Turbo S purely a case of oneupmanship, and if so, is the only real consideration here, longterm residual / resale values?
I've still got quite a few options on the Turbo S, mainly things like Front Axle Lift and extra leather detail which I like to add to reduce the amount of plastic.
100% with you on the Sports Exhaust Taffy, although I prefer the four quad with silver tips, which unfortunately isn't an option on the Turbo S.
100% with you on the Sports Exhaust Taffy, although I prefer the four quad with silver tips, which unfortunately isn't an option on the Turbo S.
Thanks Benelux - The four quad pipe is standard on the Turbo S, but only in black, not silver as is the case with the Turbo S
Thanks also MHH, it's a good point about not compromising - I suppose ultimately for me though, because I won't track the car, neither will I really press on it too hard, comfort is going to be a deciding factor.
I noticed that PDCC is standard on the Turbo S, stating that it provides "an active roll stabilisation system with an ultra sporty setup", Therefore, does PDCC give a firmer ride?
Also, PASM -10mm..... Does this firm things up all the time, or is it adjustable?
In short, does PASM simply improve performance, or does it also provide a softer more comfortable drive than the standard set up - Or will the standard set up always provide the most comfortable ride?
Thanks again all for sharing your knowledge
Thanks also MHH, it's a good point about not compromising - I suppose ultimately for me though, because I won't track the car, neither will I really press on it too hard, comfort is going to be a deciding factor.
I noticed that PDCC is standard on the Turbo S, stating that it provides "an active roll stabilisation system with an ultra sporty setup", Therefore, does PDCC give a firmer ride?
Also, PASM -10mm..... Does this firm things up all the time, or is it adjustable?
In short, does PASM simply improve performance, or does it also provide a softer more comfortable drive than the standard set up - Or will the standard set up always provide the most comfortable ride?
Thanks again all for sharing your knowledge
Edited by Mulsanne-Speed on Saturday 28th May 09:12
Thanks for the info Slaav.
So from what I understand (unless I've misunderstood), changing a wheel on a 911 with CL wheels is not a straightforward process?
Front axle lift is £1,700 which seems a bit steep, but I guess the last thing I want is an expensive front paint / bodywork repair, or worse still, the pain I'd feel when hearing the scrape!!
I suppose the tricky bit is, looking at the road ahead and knowing whether:
A. The extra 4cm will save you
B. The extra 4cm is necessary to require the lift
So I guess if I'm not entirely sure when to use it, is there any point having it - A bit more thought needed on that one......
I would probably select the heated steering wheel, as it is a nice touch when cold, bit I try to avoid too much in terms of steering wheel functions and especially screens. My daily driver and the car I do the most miles in, is a 15 year old Range Rover, everything has a button and they work every time you may contact with them - The car's only worth about £5k but I love it!
"Will have a look at spec and see what I would change/consider after having ours (and using it) for 18m" - Thanks Slaav, would be good to know your thoughts on this.
Ultimately, it sounds like a great car either way, Turbo or Turbo S - and a good looking one at that!
So from what I understand (unless I've misunderstood), changing a wheel on a 911 with CL wheels is not a straightforward process?
Front axle lift is £1,700 which seems a bit steep, but I guess the last thing I want is an expensive front paint / bodywork repair, or worse still, the pain I'd feel when hearing the scrape!!
I suppose the tricky bit is, looking at the road ahead and knowing whether:
A. The extra 4cm will save you
B. The extra 4cm is necessary to require the lift
So I guess if I'm not entirely sure when to use it, is there any point having it - A bit more thought needed on that one......
I would probably select the heated steering wheel, as it is a nice touch when cold, bit I try to avoid too much in terms of steering wheel functions and especially screens. My daily driver and the car I do the most miles in, is a 15 year old Range Rover, everything has a button and they work every time you may contact with them - The car's only worth about £5k but I love it!
"Will have a look at spec and see what I would change/consider after having ours (and using it) for 18m" - Thanks Slaav, would be good to know your thoughts on this.
Ultimately, it sounds like a great car either way, Turbo or Turbo S - and a good looking one at that!
Seems like you've been down exactly the same road as me wheelspinning 
Out of interest, when you say "When the turbo s arrives it should be a 992.2, so shall see what changes arrive with that", are you referring to the Shark Blue one, or if you decide to switch your C4S order - I've already been told that my order could be a 992 Gen 2, I've also been told that if I switch to Turbo S it may take slightly longer.
In short, do you think if we switch our C4S orders to Turbo S, we'll get 992 Gen 2?
Out of interest, when you say "When the turbo s arrives it should be a 992.2, so shall see what changes arrive with that", are you referring to the Shark Blue one, or if you decide to switch your C4S order - I've already been told that my order could be a 992 Gen 2, I've also been told that if I switch to Turbo S it may take slightly longer.
In short, do you think if we switch our C4S orders to Turbo S, we'll get 992 Gen 2?
I think I'm missing a trick here Spinningwheel........ I wish I'd done similar.
I've had a new Range Rover on order for 8 months now (still not slotted), and I'm not sure how long this 911 is going to take.
On reflection, I should have put two deposits down with two dealers for each car and see which came in first. As you say, the others will always sell at a profit, at least for the next 6-12 months, worse case scenario, I'd always at least get my money back.
I think you've done the right thing.
I've had a new Range Rover on order for 8 months now (still not slotted), and I'm not sure how long this 911 is going to take.
On reflection, I should have put two deposits down with two dealers for each car and see which came in first. As you say, the others will always sell at a profit, at least for the next 6-12 months, worse case scenario, I'd always at least get my money back.
I think you've done the right thing.
Wheelspinning said:
Tooo similar..
I am also awaiting a new RR.
I put deposit down on launch day back in maybe October, but changed it to the plug in hybrid when that was announced in Feb.
No build slot yet but they seem very confident its coming in July.
Made a mess of that one as I should of kept my launch edition order and also ordered they hybrid as I may already of had it here, then sold / traded it against the plug in when it arrives.
The Porsche thing has made the DP my new best friend and I am twisting his arm for a 992.2 GT3 without having to buy Cayennes etc I have zero interest in.
I can't believe you've said this!!!!!!!I am also awaiting a new RR.
I put deposit down on launch day back in maybe October, but changed it to the plug in hybrid when that was announced in Feb.
No build slot yet but they seem very confident its coming in July.
Made a mess of that one as I should of kept my launch edition order and also ordered they hybrid as I may already of had it here, then sold / traded it against the plug in when it arrives.
The Porsche thing has made the DP my new best friend and I am twisting his arm for a 992.2 GT3 without having to buy Cayennes etc I have zero interest in.
Far too similar!!!!!!!
I did exactly the same, changed my P530 Autobiography for a LWB P440e in February, because of the tax benefits of getting my company to pay for it.
Likewise, wish I'd simply placed another order, rather than switch the first one.
Grantstown said:
It’s great that money is no object and fair play for working hard etc. Quite honestly though, there are no bragging rights for an S over a turbo. It’s a way for Porsche to squeeze you slightly harder for things you really don’t need. Centre locks - will you be doing F1 style pit stops? Ceramic breaks - can you be arsed sorting this out when a stone gets caught and cracks them?
You don’t need to worry about resale values by the sound of it, so just get the one that has the shortest wait and crack on. Hang on, it’s summer already, just buy one that someone has run in with 1K miles and get it down to the South of France. Enjoy!
Thanks for your comments Grantstown, some good points made.You don’t need to worry about resale values by the sound of it, so just get the one that has the shortest wait and crack on. Hang on, it’s summer already, just buy one that someone has run in with 1K miles and get it down to the South of France. Enjoy!
I wouldn't say money's no object, in fact I'm still very cautious, I've been completely broke in the past, so old habits die hard.
Interesting what you say though - So these Centre Locks (which I'm still waiting for someone to explain what the disadvantage is with them), are not on the standard Turbo model?
Ceramic Brakes, didn't know this about this - Aren't they expensive to replace if they crack?
Is a stone causing this damage a common occurrence - If so, certainly a consideration.
anonymous said:
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I didn't know this Nathan - Yes you're right, I did dismiss the GTS because I was worried that the suspension may be too firm, so I am slightly concerned at what you're telling me about the Turbo variants.Two questions Nathan:
You say "you can select the softer suspension with the 10mm higher ride height", are you referring to if PASM is selected as an option, or is this a standard adjustment that the car has without PASM?
Secondly, in your opinion, does the Carrera 4S have a softer suspension set up than the Turbo varaints?
Many thanks
Thanks for the information Nathan, I'll see if I can find out more - Although I am now slightly less concerned about suspension, as the majority of miles will be on the lovely smooth French Roads.
Thank you also to Robert, I won't be tracking the car, so hopefully less likely to occur.
Thank you also to Robert, I won't be tracking the car, so hopefully less likely to occur.
Agreed mhh - That does sound like a Faff.
Thank you to both Slaav and Benelux for providing such detailed explanations, that's really useful.
Can I just check, a couple of questions:
If the car is still under warranty, I'm guessing that Porsche will come out and change it for you? (obviously you get shafted on the tyre price!)
Does the 911 Turbo and Turbo S carry a spare wheel, or just a repair kit?
Thank you to both Slaav and Benelux for providing such detailed explanations, that's really useful.
Can I just check, a couple of questions:
If the car is still under warranty, I'm guessing that Porsche will come out and change it for you? (obviously you get shafted on the tyre price!)
Does the 911 Turbo and Turbo S carry a spare wheel, or just a repair kit?
Slaav said:
Several quick bitty replies/answers….
No evidence to me of dust at all. Our RR (L322 - spookily , we have an Autobiography 4.4TDV8 that is almost worthless but we love. Several trips across Europe and effortless) does always get through pads and occasionally (ahem) discs with PLENTY of dust and filth.
Yeah, absolutely love the L322 Slaav - We covered just over 3,000 miles in it over the last few weeks, and it's still the most comfortable car we've ever owned.No evidence to me of dust at all. Our RR (L322 - spookily , we have an Autobiography 4.4TDV8 that is almost worthless but we love. Several trips across Europe and effortless) does always get through pads and occasionally (ahem) discs with PLENTY of dust and filth.
Essentially it is the same as yours, but ours is a 2007MY powered by the rare 4.4 naturally aspirated V8 petrol Jaguar engine, with 6 speed box. It's so quiet and so comfortable, I'll never part with it.
Seen here pre departure to Italy, and stopping off for the dogs while crossing the French Alps - All rear seats completely removed for maximum dog space. (We have to back on to the verge to enable the dogs to get in and out, I can't lift 60kg and 80kg dogs!).
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