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jayxx83

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Tuesday 5th February 2019
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After some time away having sold my boxster Spyder a couple of years back, I had been yearning for another Porsche. Having had a deposit on a 991.2 GTS which was cancelled after an extended test drive in both manual and PDK versions (reminded me of driving a fast armchair) and having tried a 997.2 3.6 manual, I stumbled upon a rather nice 2.9 manual Boxster.



I know by some it will be considered full on girl spec, but for my 12 mile B road commute to work, from what I have read will probably be the most fun from the modern Porsche range. Something with just the right amount of power so you can keep your toe in.

Swapping out my RS4 which is an excellent mile muncher, but not dynamic enough for the B roads. My previous F56 mini was epic as it was a JCW with quaife, 17”, Michelin PSS, KW coils corner weighted etc. That engine however had zero character and was concerned about longevity.

The only prob with the Spyder I found was as a daily it was a bit jiggly ride wise and only came alive above 50 mph which is where most of the speed limits are locally.

Having carbon buckets also after a meeting etc meant you couldn’t chill out. As that was “purist spec” no parking sensors, crap stereo, inability to mod it as would detract from the value. The 3.4 also meant you wouldn’t really hear much engine noise on day to day driving. The car however was epic on the ring!



This new car only has 7100 miles on the clock, major service just completed and a brand new set of N2 Michelin’s. It will need a few choice mods which will take course over time, but sincerely hoping this will be the perfect B road daily driver with just the right combo of speed and creature comforts. Quite surprised to learn the brakes are the same as on the S model as they were superb on the ring.

Picking up at the weekend so will report back after the initial 150 mile drive! So happy to be back in Porsche, even if it is at the poverty end of the spectrum! Any other owners views on the 2.9 are most welcome :-)







jayxx83

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Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Yeah just literally going to be a daily driver for fun to work and back. I think mods performance wise will be limited to a filter, remap and a set of manifolds. Then think about those Ohlins R&T plus some subtle interior upgrades, Alcantara trimming etc.

jayxx83

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Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Some really interesting comments guys. Cheers.

I think yes, I will get used to it again and the decide what I want to tweak. Short shift kit was one of the ideas as it was superb on the Spyder.

Might get a set of 17” just to try it out but have to confess a bit of lowering and some 18” spaced out would make it look a bit more beefy.

Let’s see. The dealers is near the Peak District so may as well detour via there on the way home.

The previous only only did roughly 1k miles per year in it in the first 5 years and there were mot comments about pitting to the brake discs on the first MOT. Time to wake that baby up and dust of the cobwebs!

jayxx83

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Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Feel privileged to have your legendary banter on this thread. I can see the love has grown over the years!!

One benefit of such low mileage is that you get to feel it relatively fresh. My spider had 11k when I purchased. However when I chopped it in, the left track rod felt shagged at only 19k. I guess the 8 laps of the ring didn’t help.

jayxx83

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Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Hi Brian

Yes feels like only yesterday that I was up there. Thanks for coming down! Glad to hear you are still enjoying yours :-)

Re the post about halogen lights. I actually thought they were quite good for halogens. Had a 2014 e class at the time which had led lights and on high beam the Porsche was actually quite nice.

I have seen some Phillips led bulbs which are about £130-150 which replace stock headlight bulbs. Could be a good shout.

Can’t wait for the weekend!

jayxx83

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Thursday 7th February 2019
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kilarney said:
I have done something similar and sold my 981 spyder now replaced with 987.2 s. Its no spyder but I enjoy it just as much and in some ways more as im less precious about it.

The only area its significantly behind a 981 is torsional stiffness, noticeable with the roof down. I actually prefer the quiet exhaust because Im old and want to make progress without attracting unwanted attention. No regrets at the bargain price.
That’s also a part of the appeal. Cheaper so less bothered about it. If turns out to be something I fall In love with, already know some choice interior and style mods which will really set it off individually. Nothing like a lovely cosseting interior!

Do you get more over run sound with it being non dfi? I remember my spider popped once after a hard drive and actually scared me. Hate these new contrived pops and bangs mapped in. In the old days a proper bang meant you have had a solid drive. Not ponying around trying to attract attention.

jayxx83

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Monday 11th February 2019
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Right, after 400 miles seat time there is lots to report back.

Firstly the car doesn’t remotely feel run in. Engine feels tight and the brakes feel totally awesome. More to look forward to when it loosens up. The brake pedal feels far better than my old Spyder which had around half a cm of travel before you got into the brakes. These work straight away but don’t have the new car grabbyness, just progressive feel as you press harder.

This car is on Conti SC3 N1 which are brand new and not the Michelin’s I mistakenly thought were on there. Still they don’t seem to bad but building my confidence in them as never had Conti before.

Things I love. The damping is awesome. Very stiff and controlled, but doesn’t crash. Just a notch down from the Spyder making it that bit more ideal for day to day. Around 40 mph it’s gliding over the surface but totally keyed in.

Love the stock leather seats. You can sit far lower than the sport buckets and being able to recline means you don’t need to be sitting upright in traffic which is far better for daily use. As much as I love buckets, for a daily it’s pointless imo. I did daily my mini works for 5 years with recaro pole positions so perhaps those seats are an exception.

You can pull the steering wheel right out and all the way down to get butted up next to the engine.

Coming back to a nice stiff clutch, connected gear shift, steering you actually have to put some effort into and a brake pedal that is so feelsome is a total joy. I feel like I’m driving again.

The engine on the motorway was pretty good. Cruising in 6th and overtaking was adequate enough. Probably less usable than a Porsche should be in most people’s eyes power wise, but on my daily commute, it’s actually perfect. You are rarely above the speed limit but you can still thrash and enjoy the engine sound, the connectivity through the bends and quick reaction of the car.

Going hard through first second and third shows the car is clearly quick enough and when going through bends need to up your heel and toe game to be able to drop down to second. No leaving in 3rd and riding the torque. Fun factor is massively increased and skills are improving as the miles go on. This car makes you a better driver!

The creature comforts are nice, climate, heated seats, cup holders. All stuff the Spyder didn’t have which would have made it more usable daily. Still I guess not in character with that car. Just feels cozy driving around in it.

In conclusion, I think my mods will be fairly limited as the car is amazing out of the box. 9 excellence said with a decent tune and manifolds 20whp is possible. I guess if it gives it another 20lb ft which most research suggests the car will pretty much be perfect for B roads. Just needs that flat sport around 3k mapped out. A fast road geo from the same people made the Spyder epic so will replicate here.

Not enough exhaust noise, but induction noise is far louder than I remember on my Spyder.

Lastly, an alcantara steering wheel, gear knob and boot and handbrake to enhance the contact points. Heard good things about the GT3 shifter as well. Headlight upgrade also already ordered as candles are not cutting it on the unlit country roads.

I can see why the cayman r is probably the perfect road car with comfort seats, xenons, MT, ac and cup holders.

The response of the 3.4 in any gear is far better but still gets you to crazy speeds quite quickly. The torque feels solid in all gears but still encourages you to use all the Rev range. Love the Porsche way of looking at power and torque to weight to devise their cars. I reckon when the 2.9 is “unlocked” it will have just that extra edge it needs to make it what it should be.

Hopefully when this thing is run in I get more top end zing. It still feels tight going over 5k.

Found out the car had a clutch after 4 year old and 4K miles as due to lack of use it had seized on the flywheel so both were change. Will prob give it till 10k miles and then do the remap so it’s had a chance to stretch itself.

Last bit, fuel economy is epic. 450 miles out of a tank on m way and around 400 on my journey means with tax, insurance & fuel will be saving around 4K a year against my RS4.

Winning all around and I don’t see any of these 987.2 so quite unique on the road! So glad I went for this model. The newer ones whilst probably easier for day to day are a bit softer around the edges for my liking. This feels like a sports car through and throughout and isn’t so perfect that you are filtered out from the actual joy of driving.

Looking forward to the next 100k plus miles. This is Defo a daily that will be staying :-)

jayxx83

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Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Yeah previous Spyder was platinum silver. This new one is basalt similar to panther black. It’s so mint not one chip. Tempted to get ppf on the bonnet and bumper to keep it protected for the years to come. Will be ceramic coating soon. My pal at minutia detailing is nothing short of epic and a proper perfectionist.

Roll on the summer!!

jayxx83

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Thursday 14th February 2019
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After some more miles and a commute into London. Feels great. Managed to get some hard stops in just before abs kicks in and boy are they solid!

Even had the tyres smoking! Adapted driving style now a bit so not really finding the lack of torque an issue. How ever can tell it needs some negative camber urgently on the front end.

Man driving this thing is so much fun!!!

jayxx83

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Saturday 16th February 2019
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Looking at the power curve of the 2.9 and 3.4 it’s pretty much the same. Peak power at 6500 and then it holds to just over 7k from what I can see.

The Spyder made peak power at 7200 and the cut out was 7400/7500 I think.

I saw the carnewal oem manifolds with HJS for 1k which looks decent and they say it gives you the 10hp increase. 9 excellence say with headers and tune 20whp is possible which is enough really. Don’t know whether the extra cash is worth it for the proper longtube ones as it’s around 2k more for no extra power but I’m sure The drivability will feel better with a proper equal length manifold rather than the crushed stock ones.

Just want the 3k dip mapped out and power to be made further up like the Spyder. Racing through the gears on that car was great fun as the feeling just before the redline was amazing. Just felt like it would pull forever.

First mod this weekend is to upgrade the headlights. Stock aren’t bad but you need to keep using high beam. Rather have decent dipped lights.

jayxx83

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Monday 11th November 2019
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Thought I would update this thread as it’s been a few months.

After collecting the car I got mike a minutia derailing to give the car a full correction and ceramic coat. The car literally looked like new. Hard to believe it was 8.5 years old at the time.

After this I thought I would just run it in a bit more as the engine was still pretty tight. Fast forward to today and a chance over 7 k miles to evaluate what I did and didn’t like about the car.

Firstly my thoughts are the 2.9 is genuinely 80 of what my 987 3.4 Spyder was for 50 pc of the price. The ride was equally poor imo. At low speeds 35 and under, they both rode like pogo sticks.

Above this on the right B road they do come together amazingly well, but the 2.9 suspension gets flustered at higher speeds. Damping too stiff but springs feel like they aren’t doing much.

Picked up a few choice upgrades to lift the interior comprising of oem boxster carbon dash trims, gear surround, handbrake and gear knob. Looks far nicer now.

Also have the Spyder front corner splitters and a sport design rear ducktail spoiler. Not chav but oem.

All of this has made it feel and look a little more distinctive but after an oil change it was time to get stuck in.

I had done a lot of research on the Ohlins RT kit and seen a lot had said it was too stiff. After further googling I saw CG had had good results by lowering front rates to 50nm and rear to 70nm.

I spoke with BG Motorsport in Silverstone and as they work quite closely with CG concurred it would be a good solution with our rougher roads.

They did a cracking supply, corner weight and fit on the car. Also opted for whatever max camber the front is able to run as stock. Kept the drop to -20 mm as per Porsche on the Spyder and Ohlins recommendations.

What can I say. It feels like a totally different car. The brittleness of the stock dampers and ride is totally gone. No more pogo and car being thrown off line by mid Corner bumps. No creaks. Throw in at any speed and it’s locked down.

On the motorway you don’t need to press the accelerator hardly at all to maintain 70-75 mph. Fuel economy is up. Brakes, just touch them and you feel the car stopping faster with no diving. Car takes off better as less squat.

Currently running 13 from full stiff on front and 15 from full stiff at rear. The car glides over the surface and on high speed crests, large compressions etc is totally unfazed. The car only has 15k miles on it so the oem hardware is still in good order but this suspension is on another level to Kw I have had in the past.

You can get the back out now even though it has minimal torque. For wet driving you could consider softening but had a nice wet run out on Saturday and it was still locked down despite bumping roads etc. no sliding just pure control. Was a bit scared it may twitch but nothing of the sort. Front is so Darty.

I can whole heartedly recommend this set up and BG Motorsport to any enthusiast. Amazing service from them and massive attention to detail. They also are the UK Ohlins service centre and rebuild these most other things. was great to see a lmp1 and wrc set of shocks being refurbished. Lovely people and unmatched price.

They said 6kg light than stock units as well to boot.

Next mods will be the Apex SM 10 in 18” which should save a couple KG and give it a tougher stance.

9e recommends bmc, plenum, oem mani with 200 cell and remap to add around 30hp and 20lb ft. Will be perfect as even now with the stock power, as you can stay on it even more, it stays in its zone more often.

If your on the fence, don’t be. Will be the best single mod you can do!!

jayxx83

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Tuesday 12th November 2019
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jayxx83

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Tuesday 12th November 2019
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jayxx83

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Tuesday 12th November 2019
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Not the best image as pre lowering.

jayxx83

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Tuesday 12th November 2019
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jayxx83

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Tuesday 12th November 2019
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Worst pic of the lowering but once it stops raining will give a proper clean and pic on level ground. Needs more aggressive offset wheels to bring it together. Still shocked at how much of an animal the suspension has made the car into.

Below pic shows stock Spyder spring rates in comparison.

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jayxx83

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Monday 16th December 2019
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Had the common gear cable snap a couple of weeks ago. Was a good excuse for an oem shifter kit. Had the SSK on my old Spyder but it feels way better in this. Perhaps due to new shifter cables.

As the gear change is so much quicker, rev matching on downshifts is more pleasurable, and changing up means less delay before getting on power. Makes the file feel totally like one solid piece.

Tight brakes, tight gear shift, tight suspension and good throttle response (better when higher up in the rev range).

Next mods are new wheels and unlocking the hidden 30hp in the engine!

jayxx83

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Monday 16th December 2019
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Oh an also forgot, nine excellence do some excellent zunsport style front bumper grills.

They aren’t ugly and over the front but recessed behind the bumper slats. Much easier to get leaves out but doesn’t allow the mulch to form at the bottom of the bumper.

Cheaper than zunsport to boot as well!

jayxx83

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Saturday 18th January 2020
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Lepsons certainly know what they are doing!



Will go well with the satin black sprayed Spyder side vents.


jayxx83

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Sunday 7th March 2021
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Haven’t updated this for a while but car is currently in the garage having a full m&m manifold back exhaust system with 200 cell cats. Picked this up for an amazing price from a German ebay site.

Last October had a tyre failure so ended up with PS4s all around. Transformed the car over the old PS2. So much more comfortable. Also did goodridge stainless lines. The brake pedal is so much firmer now and way more progressive. I think some PF pads will go on next.

Fast road gel was also done at nine excellence. Didn’t have much time to drive it properly due to all these lockdowns but really looking forward to the summer this year.

Hopefully the old hairdryer sound is replaced by some quality flat 6 sounds.

Thinking to finish it off with a remap but prices vary so much. Chip wizards seem to have a great rep and reasonable price at 400 plus vat. Did the same on my Subaru with a know tuner and the live map was around 500-550 I think doing it on the road.

Few pics but need to get the SLR out still!