GTECHNIQ paint protection - is it worth doing ?
Discussion
I am wondering if getting my 981 Spyder detailed + coated with gtechiq crystal serum (ultra) is worth the money?
It sounds like it would save polishing time, and maybe provide a small degree of protection from minor scratches.
Are there down sides beyond cost ? Any experiences welcome ? Thank you.
It sounds like it would save polishing time, and maybe provide a small degree of protection from minor scratches.
Are there down sides beyond cost ? Any experiences welcome ? Thank you.
avaF1 said:
sure it is crystal serum ultra fella.....................???
pricing indicates crystal serum light........................
ultra applied only by approved shops......................... guide prices for all to see..............................https://gtechniq.com/service/
Yes it is the ultra.pricing indicates crystal serum light........................
ultra applied only by approved shops......................... guide prices for all to see..............................https://gtechniq.com/service/
And is an approved workshop.
Interesting.
And I can't deny your car looks really shiny...
I think I should at least try Si02 spray before I do anything.
Q: ALSO; Since you seem to know a bit re- car maintenance - are there any products out there that tend to disguise 'slight stone chip peppering' on the sills towards the rear wheel arches. (Road trip to Wales, a degree of speed + dry road salt...!) My car is GT silver.
t still etches ceramic coats !!
a modern spray keeps your car sealed 100% of the time, every thing falls off easier than on a ceramic coat. (unless you wax/treat the ceramic coating)
also no need to snow foam or 2 bucket wash !!! another snake oil is snow foam !!! it does NOTHING bar look cool for the neighbours and make a mess on your drive/road ! for detailers it makes it look like the £1k detail is doing something !!
rain washes my car it's so slippy !
The main 2 issues with ceramic coats are,
1: it needs the upmost perfect prep as any swirl mark is sealed !! (that's where the cost is, st detail st ceramic coat finish)
2: if you get a stone chip or worse a small scratch, you will have to wet sand the coat off.
wax always will win the concours look and imo offers the best smoothing and best finish but is hassle.
modern Si02 spays seem to be the new king and what I tend to use, offers 2/3 months full beading and takes 10 seconds to do, YES 10 seconds !
SiO2 Liquid Glass is a coating of pure, safe, quartz glass or silicon dioxide (Si02).
http://www.sio2.ca/
in fact I think people with ceramic coats have to also top up with a Si02 coat wash to keep it working right and offer the beading and wash protection.
Some form of SiO2 Liquid Glass is king of washing imo today.
And I can't deny your car looks really shiny...
I think I should at least try Si02 spray before I do anything.
Q: ALSO; Since you seem to know a bit re- car maintenance - are there any products out there that tend to disguise 'slight stone chip peppering' on the sills towards the rear wheel arches. (Road trip to Wales, a degree of speed + dry road salt...!) My car is GT silver.
Porsche911R said:
PaulD86 said:
I've machine polished and coated 5 or 6 cars now. I can thoroughly recommend ceramic coatings. As others have already explained, they have their limitations, but they can also make routine car cleaning much easier and leave you with a much nicer finish. Flies don't stick half as badly is one advantage.
What I would suggest though is looking at other coatings. Gtechniq stuff has a good name but in my opinion the Gyeon Mohs range of coatings is a lot better. I did my Cayman R in Gyeon Mohs and a mate had his F-Type done with Gtechniq by a pro detailer. We then did the same 1200 mile road trip in all sorts of conditions and got the cars in a right mess. On returning to mine we power hosed both cars - my Cayman was a lot cleaner after just a hose down. We then washed them by snow foaming, rinsing and then a 2 bucket wash and again the Gyeon coated car cleaned much more easily, especially the flies.
Worth noting is that most coatings come with a "top up" product. Some of these are misted on to the car dry, some wet and some it doesn't matter. This is worth doing as it tend to maintain and increase the hydrophobic properties of the coating.
It's now 4 years since I coated my Cayman and it could do with being done again (mainly the front end that gets peppered with flies etc but the stuff has been great. Drying the car takes seconds vs a non coated car.
the issue is you still get fall out on ceramic coating so to keep them smooth and easy to wash you have to wax them or top them up with A si02 spay, other wise they feel rough. Also bird sWhat I would suggest though is looking at other coatings. Gtechniq stuff has a good name but in my opinion the Gyeon Mohs range of coatings is a lot better. I did my Cayman R in Gyeon Mohs and a mate had his F-Type done with Gtechniq by a pro detailer. We then did the same 1200 mile road trip in all sorts of conditions and got the cars in a right mess. On returning to mine we power hosed both cars - my Cayman was a lot cleaner after just a hose down. We then washed them by snow foaming, rinsing and then a 2 bucket wash and again the Gyeon coated car cleaned much more easily, especially the flies.
Worth noting is that most coatings come with a "top up" product. Some of these are misted on to the car dry, some wet and some it doesn't matter. This is worth doing as it tend to maintain and increase the hydrophobic properties of the coating.
It's now 4 years since I coated my Cayman and it could do with being done again (mainly the front end that gets peppered with flies etc but the stuff has been great. Drying the car takes seconds vs a non coated car.
t still etches ceramic coats !!a modern spray keeps your car sealed 100% of the time, every thing falls off easier than on a ceramic coat. (unless you wax/treat the ceramic coating)
also no need to snow foam or 2 bucket wash !!! another snake oil is snow foam !!! it does NOTHING bar look cool for the neighbours and make a mess on your drive/road ! for detailers it makes it look like the £1k detail is doing something !!
rain washes my car it's so slippy !
The main 2 issues with ceramic coats are,
1: it needs the upmost perfect prep as any swirl mark is sealed !! (that's where the cost is, s
t detail st ceramic coat finish)2: if you get a stone chip or worse a small scratch, you will have to wet sand the coat off.
wax always will win the concours look and imo offers the best smoothing and best finish but is hassle.
modern Si02 spays seem to be the new king and what I tend to use, offers 2/3 months full beading and takes 10 seconds to do, YES 10 seconds !
SiO2 Liquid Glass is a coating of pure, safe, quartz glass or silicon dioxide (Si02).
http://www.sio2.ca/
in fact I think people with ceramic coats have to also top up with a Si02 coat wash to keep it working right and offer the beading and wash protection.
Some form of SiO2 Liquid Glass is king of washing imo today.
Some very helpful views here - much appreciated !!!
Q: Whilst we are on with all this knowledge... By any chance, does anyone know of a - ppf type product - that could change my LED headlights with clear lenses - to make them look like LED headlight lenses in black headlight option ?
Thanks.
Q: Whilst we are on with all this knowledge... By any chance, does anyone know of a - ppf type product - that could change my LED headlights with clear lenses - to make them look like LED headlight lenses in black headlight option ?
Thanks.
Exactly which brand/type of Si02 spray do you use on the paint-work, please ?
Porsche911R said:
the issue is you still get fall out on ceramic coating so to keep them smooth and easy to wash you have to wax them or top them up with A si02 spay, other wise they feel rough. Also bird st still etches ceramic coats !!
a modern spray keeps your car sealed 100% of the time, every thing falls off easier than on a ceramic coat. (unless you wax/treat the ceramic coating)
also no need to snow foam or 2 bucket wash !!! another snake oil is snow foam !!! it does NOTHING bar look cool for the neighbours and make a mess on your drive/road ! for detailers it makes it look like the £1k detail is doing something !!
rain washes my car it's so slippy !
The main 2 issues with ceramic coats are,
1: it needs the upmost perfect prep as any swirl mark is sealed !! (that's where the cost is, st detail st ceramic coat finish)
2: if you get a stone chip or worse a small scratch, you will have to wet sand the coat off.
wax always will win the concours look and imo offers the best smoothing and best finish but is hassle.
modern Si02 spays seem to be the new king and what I tend to use, offers 2/3 months full beading and takes 10 seconds to do, YES 10 seconds !
SiO2 Liquid Glass is a coating of pure, safe, quartz glass or silicon dioxide (Si02).
http://www.sio2.ca/
in fact I think people with ceramic coats have to also top up with a Si02 coat wash to keep it working right and offer the beading and wash protection.
Some form of SiO2 Liquid Glass is king of washing imo today.
t still etches ceramic coats !!a modern spray keeps your car sealed 100% of the time, every thing falls off easier than on a ceramic coat. (unless you wax/treat the ceramic coating)
also no need to snow foam or 2 bucket wash !!! another snake oil is snow foam !!! it does NOTHING bar look cool for the neighbours and make a mess on your drive/road ! for detailers it makes it look like the £1k detail is doing something !!
rain washes my car it's so slippy !
The main 2 issues with ceramic coats are,
1: it needs the upmost perfect prep as any swirl mark is sealed !! (that's where the cost is, s
t detail st ceramic coat finish)2: if you get a stone chip or worse a small scratch, you will have to wet sand the coat off.
wax always will win the concours look and imo offers the best smoothing and best finish but is hassle.
modern Si02 spays seem to be the new king and what I tend to use, offers 2/3 months full beading and takes 10 seconds to do, YES 10 seconds !
SiO2 Liquid Glass is a coating of pure, safe, quartz glass or silicon dioxide (Si02).
http://www.sio2.ca/
in fact I think people with ceramic coats have to also top up with a Si02 coat wash to keep it working right and offer the beading and wash protection.
Some form of SiO2 Liquid Glass is king of washing imo today.
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