Am I right - is this a basic spec 718?

Am I right - is this a basic spec 718?

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GE90

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Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Hi

I keep getting drawn to this 718. However, not know a great deal (just started looking), what are your thoughts? Thanks

https://www.dysoncars.co.uk/cars/porsche/718/2/721...

GE90

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Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Many thanks guys.

I know I should drive one next, but reviews seem to criticise the 2.0, suggesting it laggy and not performing as you would expect.

I would be coming from an Audi S3, so completely different!

Thanks again.

GE90

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Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Thanks.

Within my car history I owned a number of Subaru's with a flat 4 boxer, an unmistakable sound track!

GE90

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Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Cheers guys.

So perhaps this isn’t a T either, although the exhaust looks different?

https://www.prestigecarskent.co.uk/used-cars/15027...

This is local.

Thanks

GE90

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Wednesday 14th December 2022
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Agreed. Again, I keep getting drawn back to the first one! Is that folding mirrors I see on the first car above?

Thanks

GE90

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Thursday 15th December 2022
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Thanks again.

So the first one -

What colour do we think this is?
Does it appear to have folding mirrors?
Options seem to be PDK, climate, 20” wheels, multi function steering wheel, rear wiper?
Am I likely to be in for any big ticket service items anytime soon?
Any opinion on asking price?
Any other 718’s known out there, max budget £38k?

Cheers

GE90

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Sunday 18th December 2022
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Thanks! It’s my intention to drive one as soon as I can.

Difficult, as I my S3 is as new and ticks so many boxes, but I just get bored, which is an expensive habit! I’ve always loved the look of the Cayman.

Ultimately I’d love a 911, after having hired one in 2014 for my 40th. Trouble is I don’t really appreciate classic - I like modern I’m afraid! My budget won’t stretch to a 2014 or newer 911!

Any thoughts on the list of queries in respect of the first car would be very much appreciated.

GE90

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Tuesday 24th January 2023
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Hi All

I keep getting drawn back to the 18.5k miles 2017 one, and have now sourced a spec list.

Any way of knowing which entries are options please?

Also, any recommendations for servicing/repairs - I'm in the SE, Bromley.

Thanks.





GE90

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Saturday 28th January 2023
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Thanks very much.

So, I viewed this one during the week. Paint depth check confirmed all original paint, in great condition and seems a genuine car.

However, and this is no fault of the specific car nor the Cayman, but I was surprised by how ‘agricultural’ it felt after jumping out of my Audi S3. While I absolutely love the look of the Cayman, and would really like to pull the trigger, I’m just not 100% certain. I think it’s a car I need to spend more time in to understand it, and connect?

Hard to put my finger on it, but the steering was heavy, and the car noisy, giving the impression of a much less resolved and civilised car? I’m sure this is not the case, but just left me confused.

For context, it’ll be a second car to our family wagon, but I’d need to use for some local shortish journeys sometimes.

I hired a 204 911 Carrera S for a day in celebration of a big birthday almost 10 years ago and absolutely loved it, but this would be well out of budget!

Confused!

Thanks

GE90

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Saturday 28th January 2023
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LiamH66 said:
There's a cure for that. Get a drive in a 981 GT4 for a few miles. The 718 2.0 will instantly feel very refined in comparison! I have both, and the base 718 feels like a comfy pair of slippers after taking my running shoes off when I get back in it. Much, much quieter too.

I often use either of mine for nipping down to the supermarket or the tip. Totally everyday usable, but they are definitely sports cars from the ground up rather than souped up everyday cars. They are refined, but not in the same way as most road cars. And of course if they made them as refined as a 911, they'd risk losing a lot of 911 sales given Cayman price point.

I bought my first 718 Cayman 2.0 on the basis of a 60 mile trundle in a similar spec 718 Boxster, on my own in the car. I covered a good array of A roads, B roads, motorway and urban congestion. It was only half way through the drive that I started to get just how competent the car was, and how to get the best from the little turbo 4-cylinder. The only downside was that I'd forgotten to ask how to apply the handbrake before I set off. Almost 7 years on, I still think they are one of the best sports cars ever.

You'll probably need more seat time before you can decide.

Liam
Thanks very much - I reckon you’ve nailed it!

Now the problem is finding one I can do an extended drive in. The subject car is a good few hours away!


GE90

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Sunday 29th January 2023
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Thanks.

I’ve reached out to my local OPC, as they have one available.

Am I right in thinking that the 2017 base shouldn’t have the twin pipes?

Many thanks.


GE90

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Monday 30th January 2023
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Right, to update.

I spent a little more time in one today, but not nearly enough.

Really starting to get a feel for it though. Starting to think I must be odd to be taking time to really ‘understand’ the car!

The one today drove great, but had so many issues. Wet front boot, water dropped from sun visor during drive. Upper rear brake light full of condensation. Poor history, just about no options, and signs of bodywork on near side. Also ditch finder tyres!

So, going back to the front runner. I managed to find the previous owner on Facebook, and they have been amazingly helpful. Nothing to worry about there, and all seems really good and genuine.

So, here’s my thoughts! The car has one tyre that’s not ‘N’, which believe it or not the last owner said Porsche fitted after a pot hole incident! So I’d like to replace the pair, £530.

Then there is the matter of the 6 year service in August. One OPC quoted £1800, no plugs (I think these need doing as box not ticked by Porsche as last service). Another OPC £1400, again no plugs. Specialists in the SE are between £800 - £1100, including plugs. However, anyone know if they are able to/typically connect with Porsche to update software?

Finally the front pads looked a little low. Not too bad, but I thought I had better factor this in.

So, with the full ceramic detail at my detailer, I could be looking at a few £k to get is where I want.

Dealer is refurbing all wheels, and will have an MOT done.

Cannot stop looking at this photo! The more I learn I think it’s got some reasonable options - PDK, steering wheel, rear wiper, red belts, climate, sports pipes.

Any further thoughts? Almost £38k reasonable, with 19k miles and full OPC history? From a used dealer, not specialist, but sold a few.





Edited by GE90 on Monday 30th January 20:17

GE90

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Saturday 4th February 2023
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Right, spent some time with the car!

I’m making a meal of this I know! One minute head rules heart, the next minute it flips!

The car is close to needing 4 tyres, so I’m factoring in PS4S N replacements. It needs front pads soon. Otherwise, it really does seem a great example. I managed to trace the former owner who gave me reassurance too.

At present I have a fantastic S3, but as the car is rarely used, I’m looking for something that is an occasion itself to drive. We have a family wagon for those duties.

I have a reasonable price for the 6 year service at an OPC, and might even be able to stretch to a warranty with them too, although I think £315 for the 111 point check is steep considering they will be doing a full service at the time! I would purchase approved used, but cannot find anything with the spec of this which is pretty much ideal for me. Also, with the tyres done, service in August and possibly a warranty, it’ll be not much different , and slightly cheaper.

The only thing that lets it down cosmetically are the rusting parts of the disc vents, surface rust on the wheel bolts and white worm corrosion on the centre hubs. Also the black calipers have faded (must be a way of bringing back to life?). All a bit OCD, but that’s me!

Dealer will MOT and get the wheels refurbished.

I then have head ruling heart moments and look at new S3’s!

Then I look at this (my S3 in the background).

Thought’s really appreciated.


GE90

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Saturday 4th February 2023
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Thanks, appreciated.

I’ve had a good look at approved, but the gap is reasonably significant as I’m looking for folding mirrors (park in garage) and PDK. Fallen in love with the 20” wheels too, particularly against the GP silver!

Dealer already dropped some, and won’t move any further. Good part ex for mine (almost private money) and I don’t suppose a full refurbishment of the 20” wheels isn’t cheap.

I guess even an approved car would have cosmetic brake disc rust and tyres at say 3mm - probably Pirelli too! Faded brake calipers too.

I think I’m talking myself into it!

GE90

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Sunday 5th February 2023
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Thanks, appreciated.

I’ve had a good look at approved, but the gap is reasonably significant as I’m looking for folding mirrors (park in garage) and PDK. Fallen in love with the 20” wheels too, particularly against the GP silver!

Dealer already dropped some, and won’t move any further. Good part ex for mine (almost private money) and I don’t suppose a full refurbishment of the 20” wheels isn’t cheap.

I guess even an approved car would have cosmetic brake disc rust and tyres at say 3mm - probably Pirelli too! Faded brake calipers too.

I think I’m talking myself into it!

GE90

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Sunday 5th February 2023
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scrounger73 said:
I wouldn't worry about rust brakes discs. Very common on steels. Mine rust up within minutes of doing a wash and it's only a year old with 6000 miles on it. Same with the wheel bolts.

Brakes you could probably do yourself if you're that way inclined and the sensor isn't worn and the discs aren't lipped. Brake calipers do go grey if strong cleaning solutions are used (have a look at some of the OPCs demo cars!) however, you may be able to bring these back to life with a ceramic coating such a Gyeon Rim.

The 111 point check is standard if an OPC is providing an extended warranty but you may be able to negotiate the £250 cost as you're buying the warranty and paying for a service.

If you've made contact with the previous owner and if he's had it from new, he will be able to tell you if he's had any issues. Verify the mileage he sold it at compared to what it is now. That should indicate if it's been sat for a while and if anything has happened between him owning it and the dealer.

WRT options I'll tell you what was/is optional

Sports tailpipes. Standard one is oval
Folding mirrors
Carplay
Rear parking sensors
64 ltr tank
PDK
Multifunction steering wheel heated
Interior light package
Guards red seatbelts
Heated seats
Rear wiper


Any pictures of the interior?
Thanks.

I’m more than happy to replace the brakes myself, but what is the process with releasing the parking brake at the rear? I use VCDS on my Audi, will I need something similar?

Photos of interior:





GE90

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Monday 6th February 2023
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Thanks, appreciated.

Those diagnostic tools are a minefield! Any links to something cheap that will do the job? Also code battery too.

This looks good for the price?

https://ljmcardiagnostics.co.uk/products/icarsoft-...

GE90

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Monday 6th February 2023
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Thanks - yes, I’ll change them all.

Any specific guides you can suggest?

GE90

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Friday 10th February 2023
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Right, first, thanks so much to all of the contributors.

I decided not to proceed in the end, as an OPC car came up which I could just about stretch to (with some man maths).

Will be collecting in 2 weeks time - really excited.

2018 Base, 19,000 miles. Some nice options:










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Edited by GE90 on Friday 10th February 07:59

GE90

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Friday 10th February 2023
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jimbo761 said:
Great choice OP, looks good!
Thank you.

Only one uncertainty is the wheels. Really wanted the Carrera S wheels. Just not sure about the Turbo S ones - albeit, it seems they are the pricier option.

First world!