Do you like a Cayman 981 S yellow with interior bordeaux ?

[Andre_Sant]

Good morning, I found in my city, in Italy, an used Porsche Cayman 981 S form a private seller at a good price for the current market.

The car has a good price for the italian market and it is yellow (exterior), and with a dark red leather (interior).
it is fully equipped, like a gts, it has pasm, chrono, sports exhaust, heated steering wheel, seats with memory, etc.

What do you think about ?

Since being able to resell the car in a few years is an important point for me, I would like to know if you like this colour combination.

[Andre_Sant]

thank you for your answers.
But in your opinion, this yellow/red contrast that many people don't like (although I like it), can it be avoided or mitigated by using black/dark films on the windows?
That way the car will look more like a classic yellow/black car on the outside, while on the inside... well we're on the inside, you can't see much of the yellow bodywork...

I must also say that the red is very dark, the photos don't show it (you can understand it from the 4th pictures), it's actually a dark bordeaux, very different objectively from the fiery red of the McDonald's that some have mentioned

The car was originally in Abu Dhabi 6 years, then did 2 years in the czech republic and finally was imported to italy to be resold

In italy we have many basic black, white and grey 981s for sale, but the super-equipped porsche 981 S is virtually unobtainable.

It was originally offered for sale at 58,000 EUR, the seller would let me have it for 50,000 EUR including a Porsche service before final delivery (it is like 49.000 EUR). (1 EUR = 0,88GBP, but in italy we have in general the prices for the Porsche are higher than UK)
It has got 56000 miles, it s a 2014, but it seems brand new. Exceptional/perfect conditions.

This yellow 981S also has carbon trim, the carbon is even on the underside when one enters the car in the cayman s (bright) inscription, and on the sterring wheel.
It also looks like it came out of the dealer despite being 9 years old, with the porsche services done every year in the official porsche centre.

The alternative is to get for the same price a 2013 basic black 981 (not S), black interior, 20" wheels, sports exhaust and sport chrono, but alcantara interior, no carbon trim, no heated steering wheel, no memory seat and so on, but only 32000 miles. Here the pictures:






Thanks a lot for your comments and opinions

Edited by Andre_Sant on Monday 23 January 15:41

[Andre_Sant]

thank you very much for all your answers. I appreciated a lot.
some have asked why I care so much about the opinion of people on a forum, the reason is that the resale factor is important to me.

so I took a few days to hear from various car dealers, who told me that the car with this type of colouring would have a smaller market, but still would.
So I didn't find any dealers who told me: no, we would never buy it back at a reasonable price.



Regarding the colours: yes, if the car was black inside also according to my aesthetic taste it would be better. But you can not fine a 981 or 981S yellow in all europe (not-uk), except this one that i found in my city.
In general my best exterior colours for a Porsche are Blue and yellow.

I also inquired at various specialist in leather, but they all told me that changing the colours internally would be an extremely expensive and absurd job.

The most logical choice, as some of you have suggested, is to change the floor mats (putting them black instead of red) and possibly changing the steering wheel to a black 718.

Lastly, could put dark seat covers on, or, in the most extreme case, buy other black 18-way seats (which, however, used ones cost around 4000 euro a pair in Europe on ebay).

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There are two other alternatives, both very different:
1) get a blue 981 BASE in Munich, Germany. Not a very quick route for me as I would have to buy in another country. The 981 would be the base model at 47000 EUR with black interior. No leather, no chrono, no memory seats, but yes PSE. The final price is the same of the yellow because I have to pay the import costs.

you can see the car here:
https://youtu.be/Arl9sBMhZEE



2) totally different kind: a 997.1 4 sport version TARGA manual transmission, grey and black at 63000 EUR (but with much less "sound"). (the seller is, again, in my city).

[Andre_Sant]

RiccardoG said:

Regarding the yellow / red Cayman, I'd be more concerned that it was in Dubai & Czech before ending up in Italy. This is due to the potential for "losing" many kms every time its moved country, and potentially any damage records that might be recorded on national databases but with no international data available.

Personally I'd take that basic black low miles Cayman. I hate black cars, but for any 10+ yr old sport car I think good provenance is more important than a few silly options,

I do subscribe to the view that Porsche sports cars are for driving and therefore generally best in their basic versions. Not everyone will subscribe to this view, of course!

yes it is true, but i have seen the service booklet and the car has received a service every year, at porsche abu dhabi and porsche prague, and everything seems ok

the car is also in impeccable condition. i've never seen a used car more than 5 years old in such good condition. Even the leather inside doesn't have the slightest stripe in the seats.

the seller states that the car has never been damaged.
I think it's still possible to do a VIN check to see if the car has, or has not, been in an accident, don't you think? or can such reports also be falsified?

the car has the typical GTS front bumper, but I have verified that even in the 718 if one selects 'sport design package' one can have the 718 GTS front bumper put on the 718 and 718S

[Andre_Sant]

Adam. said:

I subscribe that those thinking like this:

"some have asked why I care so much about the opinion of people on a forum, the reason is that the resale factor is important to me."

should not buy yellow cars with red leather interiors


(this is not a criticism of the OPs factor concern or the car itself - I just don't think they are very compatible)

Ok, I understand your point, but I must also consider the fact that the prices is lowest than a 981S black black
For this 981S yellow red with many GTS specs, the price is like a 981 base black black with chrono only..


So, do you think that because the car costs less, but has 'unusual' colours, it will still be easily resaleable tomorrow at the price that a black 981 BASE black will have in the future?
Or will the black black 981 BASE still and always have a bigger market despite having the same price?


finally: what do you think of the other 2 cars I put above, the 981 BASE but blue/black and the manual 997 TARGA with 50.000miles?

Thanks a lot

[Andre_Sant]

981Boxess said:

https://www.autohaus-roma.it/scheda-porsche-cayman...

Thanks for the link, but it is 65.000 EURO VS 50.000 EURO.. a very big difference

and In this case I really can't like the interior in the 65.000 EURO version (I prefer a lot the red leather.. it is a personal taste of course..)

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I found also a black / black real 981 GTS for 66.500 EURO but I feel that the price is too high VS the 981S yellow / red at 50.000 EURO with GTS specs.

I tried to ask them for 60.000 EURO (from 66.500 EURO).. they will think about it..

[Andre_Sant]

Pent said:

Looks stunning.
I hope you bought it

I'm again thinking about it.
The seller will be not available for the next 15 days, so it is not a problem for him to wait this time.

In the meantime I will see all the alternatives.

[Andre_Sant]

Adam. said:

So if I have this correct:

Yellow / red S - 50k + a serivce, 56k miles, 2014
carbon interior pack
carbon illuminated door entry guards
carbon bit on steering wheel

black / black (not S) - 32k miles 2013
has all the importnat options - 20" wheels, sports exhaust and sport chrono
same price

honestly wouldn't really care about the carbon bits or heated steering wheel and memory seats

black car all day long, especially given mileage
personally I would go for a tasteful colour S with an OK spec (nice whels, chrono, etc) but no trinkets like carbon bits
how much are they in your market?

in Italy the 981S are very rare, because at the time they were sold the ownership taxes increased considerably compared to the base 981.

the average cost of a 981s when you find it is 58,000 - 60,000 euros, but there are also those who ask for 65,000-66,000 euros.

however a realistic comparison can be made with this black black 981 GTS which is sold, after some negotiation, for 66,500 euros (source: https://www.autoscout24.it/annunci/porsche-cayman-... )

the difference between the base 981 and the 981S is mainly given by the engine, the PASM, the memory seats (which however have a relative utility), and the leather interior (in the base they are in alcantara), while I agree that other options ( such as the carbon finishes, the heated steering wheel, the GTS format front spoiler) are secondary

Both instead have the chrono and the sports exhaust

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my orientation is to ask the seller of the yellow porsche to further reduce the price by pointing to the fact that the color is particular and that the car has been around the world. we'll see what he tells me.

Of course, I will still carry out all the necessary checks to make sure that the parts are original (including the front bumper) and that the car has never had an accident (about this, I also intend to contact porsche abu dhabi and porsche prague)

thanks a lot

[Andre_Sant]

981Boxess said:

t is a newer car with less miles at retail price (not negotiated) from a dealer as opposed to a private sale that has already been negotiated, not in a marmite colour scheme. So yes there is a big difference as it stands - but not to your taste, so fair enough. There is no such thing as a cheap Porsche, if it is there is always a reason for it.

Having read all you have written I think you are unlikely to find what you want for what you are willing to pay for it, but good luck with your search.

Thanks for your answer
yes it is true, but I like the light beige/cream leather colour much less than the red colour (yes of course, it is only my taste).
Also if we consider that the black/black 981 GTS can be found for €66,500, I think the price of the silver 981 S is still overpriced, even if the seller drops the price a bit.

In general, if I had found a black/black Porsche 981 S with good options, or a yellow/black 981S, for 58,000/59,000 euros, I would have bought it.

Given that in italy they sell the 981 GTS at 66,500 euros, and at 49,000 euros you can find the basic black/black 981 well equipped, I think 58,000 euros is its correct value, but the problem is that you can't find any, because Porsche sold a very small number of 981S in Italy

[Andre_Sant]

981Boxess said:

here is a limited supply and they are not making any more, the correct value is whatever somebody else is willing to pay for it, that is what determines a price, not what you value it at.

value is also established in relation to alternatives.
If a 981 GTS costs EUR 66,500 with few miles, a 981 S cannot cost basically the same (even if there are only a few), as it is an inferior model to a pure 981 GTS.