911 SC 1980 - thoughts/views?

[Gio G]

So looking to scratch the 911 itch, however going down the classic route I imagine can very risky. Not looking for a garage queen and something that will be run as a daily and doing low miles. Saw the following recently, I assume the dealer has had this car for a number of months and has reduced the price. Lack of dealer website is a concern and only a mobile number, but wanted to focus on the car itself.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Any thoughts/comments? really appreciate it..

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Thanks all for the replies. The wife really wants a classic, ideally a 70's 911, but prices on these have gone through the roof.. So it really is a 964 or older. I personally prefer a 993, however she feels it is too modern looking.

So what would you chose? It has to be a classic 911 and original, used as a daily, I am talking 15 miles a day max, can be garaged during the bad seasons.

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Would anyone have any thoughts on this 911 please...? I think the wife likes the idea of a non wide-body car, as she feels it looks more classic, I prefer the sport wider body

I suspect the colour is not that common. I appreciate that the price is probably on the higher side, however appears to have some decent history. I know the wheels are period, but does not look right to me... thoughts/comments? This indy is very local to me, so tempted to take a look in person..

https://www.jzmporsche.com/used-vehicle-details/Po...

Thanks G

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jonny996 said:

looks nice but I would be all over the 912 they have for same price.

Not shown the wife the 912.. I think she would be all over it, but LHD for daily is probably not recommended.

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ClaphamGT3 said:

Looks a nice enough car but, then, they all do in the sales pics. Go and see it, get all over it and examine its history carefully. Remember that, whilst it's a £50k car now, it had years of being a sub £10k 'shoe string 911' and you need to be clear whether in that 15 year period it was lucky enough to be cosseted by a couple of enthusiast owners who looked after it or whether it rattled through a succession of potless dreamers who wanted to impress the blokes down the pub with their 911 ownership and who punted it on at the first hint of bill above cashpoint money. If the latter, you need strong evidence that all the neglect has been put right, not just blown over with a couple of coats of two-pack

Never really thought about it in that way, great advice thanks. It seems the car is known to the dealer for a period of time. I suspect some sort of pre-inspection on these are a must if serious about purchasing?

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ClaphamGT3 said:

To your LHD point, having had LHD and RHD 911s, the LHDs are better in my view; much more comfortable because of the lack of pedal off-set and the cars are both narrow and nippy, so the LHD isn't an impediment to overtaking and manoeuvring. If LHD, just make sure that you understand the car's specification, as they could be very different for different markets

Thanks, no harm in looking at both of them. Bearing in mind your previous comments, what amount would be prudent to put aside annually for maintenance/repair of these types of cars? 5%/10% of their value? Also, would garaging it be absolute must? As I posted some months ago, the wife wants to use it for pleasure and getting to work, which is fairly local, within 10 miles.

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Appointment booked for Saturday morning. Indy mentioned a few people sniffing around it, which is fair enough..

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g7jhp said:

Lovely looking car.

It's an 84 3.2 Carrera (non-Sport), so no front or rear spoilers. The earlier 3.2's have the older dash, older tombstone seats and 915 gearbox.

Teledials are easily stored if you wanted to run Fuchs.

At £50k I'd want a later 87-89 G50 Coupe with Sports seats and spoilers.

I have to admit, I am not a fan of Teledials and prefer Fuchs. The car has had a car bare metal respray at the cost of £10k, hence why is looks so great in the pictures, but that sometimes can deflect away from other issues. Also it is a stock car, as the previous owner part exchanged this and another car for a GT3 I believe. It has been on the market for two months and they lowered the price by £5k. Now that the sun is out, I suspect it is attracting interest. With respect to getting a later car, agree but it is finding the right one..

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majordad said:

Sounds like Hardtotake that to me !! Please don't reply with other guesses, my point is only to make a little play on words which may or may not be wrong.

Sorry, you lost me....

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So we saw the car yesterday and spent around 3 hours down at JZM. They seem like a good bunch. The car itself was stunning, looked very clean and test drive did not bring up noises or rattles. The history file was very comphrensive, full A4 folder worth. The only downside was MOT’s certs missing from the first 3-4 years, however plenty of paperwork to back up service and repairs during that time. Having never owned an older 911, what are the things I need to look for? as I think most of the obvious maintenance has been undertaken. The wife is really smitten with it and loved the test drive. Do I need to get an independent pre-inspection?

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g7jhp said:

Yes I'd get a PPI.

Try Jaz in St.Albans.

Good shout, have put a call into Jaz and the whole process seems straight forward and they mentioned they have had plenty of cars from JZM for PPI in the past.. I think I may want to pop over again to JZM, as there was so much paperwork on the car, just so difficult to consume it all.

In the front trunk area, I suspect I should see an air compressor box, toolkit? anything else. Only remember seeing the spare wheel under the carpet.. Sorry for the questions, complete novice..

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cornershop said:

...jack, rust under the battery, VIN code, options sticker under the front lid,

Join impactbumpers.com - only one rule, do not discuss values....

Thanks, I am hoping Jaz will call out specific items that are missing as part of the PPI, however the dealer said all of these items will be included.. Talking of values... went over to Hatfield Porsche to have a look at this to compare condition..

http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-customer/ipl/detail...

I can only think the OPC are opportunists, unless it was previously owned by someone very famous, do not get the price tag. It was in nice condition and had some nice extras, I would expect this price for a much lower mileage example and maybe the same owner from new...

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Hopefully close to finalising the deal on the 3.2 Carrera, the inspection did not turn up any nasty items, however inspections are always going to create some drama with the dealer. I think surface corrosion will need to be sorted in the future and a few bits and bobs..

Still quite nervous and excited at the same time..

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jonny996 said:

You do realise your Mrs will be fancied by every passing petrolhead if she uses that as a daily :-)

I know... also with the silver colour and the teledial wheels, being a non-sport, I think will suit her more.. I think the inspection was well worth it for piece of mind. I know on these age cars there is always something to do or replace, you can't expect perfection without having to pay seriously over the odds.

This has been a huge learning curve for me..

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