Buying a hot rod air-cooled 911

[skullcandy]

I appreciate this is a well worn path and and all but would be grateful for some input in respect of how to correctly value a hot-rodded air-cooled 911 for purchase purposes. By hot-rodded, I mean one with a significantly upgraded engine, a sound gearbox, boxster brakes and with bilstein's all round. This is a perfect example of the kind of thing I mean.

http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=2...


Its got a 3.2 twin-spark Nick FullJames Redtek special in it which I believe would cost you approx £25-30k to fully replicate, has sound bodywork and sorted suspension. However its not a matching numbers car, nor is it a long-hood conversion. If you tried to commission that car yourself (or say bought a 964 and paid someone like Redtek or RSR Engineering to take the engine out to 3.8 with approx 320bhp), do people agree it would cost you easily the £80k asking price when factoring all the associated knock on costs?

I dont want to buy a car which when it comes to re-sale is a nightmare to sell on. I personally appreciate that a Redtek engine and sorted car is a great thing but would the general buying market?

Thoughts re how to approach buying/valuing this kind of car and the general market for them? Personally I believe it should be strong as provided its been done well, the car will be a bloody hoot to drive. However when it comes to selling, its not my opinion that will count!

Thanks

Tom

Edited by skullcandy on Friday 24th August 19:23

[skullcandy]

Thanks but..........bugger

[skullcandy]

Thanks.

Oh bugger

[skullcandy]

Thanks for the thoughts peeps. Even the PHer with the Tuthill one referred to above had to take a real bath on his so how much of the doom and gloom is economy related I wonder? Should one even mention the word "bubble"?

That £55k one looks like it would be a mare to sell: very non standard looking

[skullcandy]

Nick is selling on behalf of the owner and it seems the owner is unwilling to budge. What do people think its worth?

I guess the cars that are selling are numbers matching fully original cars. However prices seem to be all over the place

[skullcandy]

The yellow one looks amazing. Thanks for the heads up. I will have to go and have a look at that. Totally disagree about the engine

Edited by skullcandy on Saturday 25th August 14:43

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Will do. Are people unsure about the engine because its just too much of a good thing and will spoil the balance or the ability to thrash it or is it about the character/sound of the engine changing for the worse?

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The PS car is sold. Damn

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ras62 said:

Exactly H. Fine on a track but frustrating as a road car. Trying to drive over 4k all the time is not so easy in a 964, that is 40mph in second and 60mph in third. In reality it would be lost on a twisty road by a well tuned 964.

Thanks, that makes perfect sense

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Mmmm, could you email me some details please?

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IMI A said:

Posted this one on another thread. Looks lovely. well worth checking out

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=129432

Thanks very much for the tip, sadly thats gone too

[skullcandy]

Thanks for all the input.

Robbo your car looks amazing. Is there a build thread/blog kicking around for her? Id love to read more

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Steve Rance said:

To the OP. I think that it may be better to hot rod a 911 whilst retaining it’s identity: ie if it’s a 993 or 964, retaining the silhouette and not trying to make it into a car it isn’t. In that way the car retains its effective integrity whilst still exhibiting an element of individuality. All air cooled 911’s have huge character already.

Completely agree Steve. It seems as if anyone commissioning a back-date these days has to acknowledge from the start that they will never see that money back. I like the idea of a completely standard looking car but with a wicked engine in the back

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Lovely, lovely car Robbo. Sounds epic.

What are the seats in yours out of interest and how comfortable are they please?

Also do you have the last section of that article? I really enjoyed it anyway, thanks very much for posting it