Which Porsche would you modify/hot rod and why?
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Just a little fun. I chose a 964 because it had the classic lines of an aircooled with modern underpinnings Which allowed some great bolt on upgrades. My build was planned around prioritising driver involvement. I tried to keep the exterior of the car as standard as possible, the but the running gear and set up are pretty extreme.
If you built your own Porsche hot rod What car would you choose, what Direction would you take your build and what mods would you prioritise?
If you built your own Porsche hot rod What car would you choose, what Direction would you take your build and what mods would you prioritise?
,proper lwt/bhp ratio
Some lovely ideas here. I’m looking at road making my 997 cup road legal. Swapping out the sequential box for a 996/7 gt3 or 996 cup, fitting some decent high end dampers and a super lightweight removable carpet set.
That would make an interesting weapon.
On saying that, there is something very special about an aircooled hot rod. I was very impressed how dynamically capable such an old shell design could be. I have a real passion for all GT3’s but there is something intoxicating and engaging about a well sorted air cooled car On the road that a water cooled car just cannot match.
That would make an interesting weapon.
On saying that, there is something very special about an aircooled hot rod. I was very impressed how dynamically capable such an old shell design could be. I have a real passion for all GT3’s but there is something intoxicating and engaging about a well sorted air cooled car On the road that a water cooled car just cannot match.
Orangecurry said:
That's a really interesting point.
I could do some serious digging, but being lazy can anyone just chip-in and say where most of the weight has been added from 911 to 964/993?
I understand if the answer is 'everywhere' - is it simply that more and more comfort, insulation, heavier seats, a/c, underbody protection is the real difference, or is that the actual mechanical components weigh more?
I will find the CLR thread where Rich listed out the weight of what he removed, albeit on a 996.
My 964 comes in at around 1225 kg with half a tank of feul. It has a fair bit of weight removed but i wanted to be comfortable on longer tours so it still has air con and electric windows. I kept the sound deadening becuause the car was in very good order and i didnt want to rip it out but it has light weight carpets and no rear seats. Factory sunroof delete probably helped. It feels light, agile and definately powerful enough but I think that one day an early aircooled hot rod will join it in my garage. I could do some serious digging, but being lazy can anyone just chip-in and say where most of the weight has been added from 911 to 964/993?
I understand if the answer is 'everywhere' - is it simply that more and more comfort, insulation, heavier seats, a/c, underbody protection is the real difference, or is that the actual mechanical components weigh more?
I will find the CLR thread where Rich listed out the weight of what he removed, albeit on a 996.
Orangecurry said:
Thanks Steve - so what did you remove? I presume sunroof-delete kept the steel roof, and filled-in the hole with steel?
No work needed Orange as it had the factory sunroof delete option when it was ordered. Interestingly also specked was a factory LSD. These were the main reasons that I bought the car. Great project marine boy. What wheels have you fitted?
I've been looking at building a pre 74 911 hot rod keep coming back to the same circular journey. It has to be a pre 74 car. I dont like the idea of backdating a 911 as I think that each aircolled iteration has its own charm and identity and i wouldnt want to change that. i appreciate that my thinking is flawed becuse I would be fundamentally changing what was beneath the skin anyway - But to my twisted brain, the honesty of the car changes when you start changing the body panels. I know - its a weird perception and ive seen some very nicely back dated 911's.
Anyway, this is my circle of confusion
1. pre 74 Donor cars are very expensive
2. The engine build costs to the spec i want is also very expensive
3. To get the dynamics from the chassis i want would be very expensive
4. There will probably be a lot of chasis and body repair work required before the build could even start
5. Why not buy another 964 and go for an extreme build?
6. You've already got one of those and its exactly what you wanted from the build and it's a keeper
7. Ok. well keep that and build something even more extreme for days when your brain is scrambled - but how often would i drive it?
8. Ok Why not buy another vanillar 997 and build that up
9. MMMMM.. Good idea but it wont engage like an aircooled when you are stuck behind Ms.Daisy..
10. AGHHHHHHH
11. Ok what about a pre 74 car then
1. pre 74 Donor cars are very expensive
Having looked at the costs of building something which would suit my requirments and building it to the spec of my 964, it would cost at least 2 to 3 times the total build cost.
I think that from my perspecive the boat for building a pre 74 hot rod may have well and truly sailed and what is striking is just how cheap - in the world of hot rod 911's - a 964 is to build up by comparison. Also how good the platform is as a starting point.
The 997GT3 really appreals but I already have a 997 Cup. MMMmm maybe i can convert that to road legal instead - but then it wouldnt be as much fun on the track
I drove another 991 GT3 recently and i really wanted to like it - but it left me with the feeling that the car cast more than just a nod to Automotive necrophillia. No offence meant to any owners. It really is an extremely capable car but to me (subjective of course) it was too fast, too capable and benignly uninvolving.
Third world problems..
Anyway, this is my circle of confusion
1. pre 74 Donor cars are very expensive
2. The engine build costs to the spec i want is also very expensive
3. To get the dynamics from the chassis i want would be very expensive
4. There will probably be a lot of chasis and body repair work required before the build could even start
5. Why not buy another 964 and go for an extreme build?
6. You've already got one of those and its exactly what you wanted from the build and it's a keeper
7. Ok. well keep that and build something even more extreme for days when your brain is scrambled - but how often would i drive it?
8. Ok Why not buy another vanillar 997 and build that up
9. MMMMM.. Good idea but it wont engage like an aircooled when you are stuck behind Ms.Daisy..
10. AGHHHHHHH
11. Ok what about a pre 74 car then
1. pre 74 Donor cars are very expensive
Having looked at the costs of building something which would suit my requirments and building it to the spec of my 964, it would cost at least 2 to 3 times the total build cost.
I think that from my perspecive the boat for building a pre 74 hot rod may have well and truly sailed and what is striking is just how cheap - in the world of hot rod 911's - a 964 is to build up by comparison. Also how good the platform is as a starting point.
The 997GT3 really appreals but I already have a 997 Cup. MMMmm maybe i can convert that to road legal instead - but then it wouldnt be as much fun on the track
I drove another 991 GT3 recently and i really wanted to like it - but it left me with the feeling that the car cast more than just a nod to Automotive necrophillia. No offence meant to any owners. It really is an extremely capable car but to me (subjective of course) it was too fast, too capable and benignly uninvolving.
Third world problems..
I’ve just picked up a nice 3.0SC that will form the basis of a little hot rod daily. Swedish non
Sunroof car with a recent Autostrasse engine rebuild. It’s running on original Fuchs. Good bodywork in Minerva blue which I like.
I’m thinking about the spec but it will be lightweight with heavy emphasis on suspension brakes and diff. Engine will be converted to ITB’s. Interior probably traditional lightweight spec with correct buckets.
Will update as the project unfolds
Sunroof car with a recent Autostrasse engine rebuild. It’s running on original Fuchs. Good bodywork in Minerva blue which I like.
I’m thinking about the spec but it will be lightweight with heavy emphasis on suspension brakes and diff. Engine will be converted to ITB’s. Interior probably traditional lightweight spec with correct buckets.
Will update as the project unfolds
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