Looking Good For Huracan Performante,The New Benchmark

[Juno]

Just read a few reviews on Ferrari chat from people who have seen the car,out of respect and by request from Lamborghini nothing particular is being said about technical details until Geneva, which is great .

However it appears that its rather special and clearly ready to set the bar and become a game changer in the affordable Supercars sector.

Congrats Lamborghini

Below is a copy and paste from one of the chats:

Quotes:

"They talked a lot about the tech which went into this car, I won't get into it because I don't want to spoil it for anyone, all I can say is WOW, this thing will be a weapon and I can not wait to drive it.

I hope I said a lot without saying too much for more than one reason, one of them being the respect I have for Lamborghini not trying to interfere with the way they want to present their product to their customers, second I don't want to spoil it for anyone, raise or lower expectations, it's better if everyone waits to experience it for themselves preferably live and behind the wheel, also all my comments are in my opinion only!

All I can say is that you wont look at a Ferrari, McLaren or a Porsche in the same manner you looked at them before if at all and they better watch their backs.

I think Lamborghini wanted a track weapon, hence the name Performante, I personally think they've done a fantastic job and they have a real monster on their hands. I can not wait for the next chapter!


Just got back from seeing the car today at 12pm in Los Angeles. they make you sign some massive NDA, and I know they're on the forums (cause we were talking about it today... so i can't say much. a lot of the speculation on the other thread about active aero, etc are all pretty spot on.

That being said, the car is TRULY special. prior to the Performante, I've always felt like Lamborghini's were about lifestyle, flash, and the attention (looks). yes, I know it's a SUPER powerful car, but I've been biased to think that Mclaren takes the cake when it comes to technical performance or being a "driver's" car... but this Performante, specially at it's supposed price point, REALLY takes that away from Mclaren in my opinion. If someone asked me (prior today's presentation) what would be your #1 favorite driver's car under $400k, i would have said 675LT without really any hesitation. but now, for a pretty significant chunk of change BELOW that mark, I REALLY think the new Huracan Performante is the NEW benchmark when it comes to PERFORMANCE/Driver's car! truly truly special. Lambo's R&D team were NOT messing around with this car.

Went to see it today as well.. I had a chance to discuss at length one of the senior engineer that made his presentation. Interesting to note he was part of the Diablo se30 back in the day... The Performante he says development took 2 years and he was really proud of the results and what they achieved. Given concept of the aero was thought up years before, kudos to the engineers as they are making great strides. Without saying further, there is a visual element shared with the se30. Good car and I would seriously consider this once I have chance to test drive it and compare to normal Huracan in the future.

Went to the event.. I'm not sure which I enjoyed more: getting to see the car, or getting lots of 1-on-1 time with C-Suite Lambo execs. Great experience.

This car really is a game changer for Lambo, there is so much more work into this car versus other SV/SL type stuff we've seen previously. It seems like they really have the balance right -- finally giving us the driver's car that we've never really had (as best we can tell), without sacrificing much in the way of drive-ability to do it."


SOUNDS GREAT

Cant wait to see it

[Juno]

+1

Yipper said:

Yes, Lambo deserves major credit for beefing up its engineering team in the past ~5 years.

The Aventador SV was faster than the McLaren P1 and LaFerrari round the Nurb in 2015 -- at roughly a third of the price.

And now the new Huracan Performante has smashed the Porsche 918 round the Nurb in 2017 -- at roughly a third of the price.

Pound for pound, Lambo road cars are now in a whole different league to Ferrari, McLaren and Porsche.

It is time for journalists and car fans to change and update their view on Lambo.

[Juno]

Oi Oi Dell Boy behave yourself

Now I like the look of the rendering's of the 720s so if it does look like that then that's a good start and I wouldn't rule it out, didn't like the real time photo but could have been the angle?

Yes Lambo is 235-240k Apparently? but that will be an almost finished price as the Perfas and Super Leggs have always come pretty much specked as standard,full off carbon from the off. I reckon you will be throwing a good 30k plus at the Macca to get a decent spec??? so I doubt the 720 will end up anywhere near the price of the Perfa on the road?

Looking at Huracan prices I don't get where you see they have plummeted compared to Macca? In fact they look to be holding much better than 650s?

Examples

SPYDER

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

650s Spyder 2016 4k miles £177.950 must have been £240k Loss £62k

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...

Huracan Spyder 2016 4k miles £219.000 must have been £240k Loss £20k

5/6 Hurcan Spyders for sale 30 plus 650 Spyders for sale ???


COUPE

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

650 Coupe 2016 1k miles £179.850 must have been £250k Loss £70k

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...

Huracan Coupe 2016 3k miles £189.995 must have been £220kLoss £30k

The above appears to demonstrate that Maccas have plummeted and Lambos not so much???

MaccaLambo rules that the depreciation war has been won in favor of the defendant,Lamborghini

Now I have no brand allegiance at all to brand, I just buy what I like the look of at the time, a car to stir the emotions,doesn't have to be the fastest or most tech savvy to tick my boxes.

However it appears to me right now that the Lambo Perfa is ticking all the boxes in a modern technological way but with Old School naturally aspirated emotion,I think everyone would agree that's got to be a hard act to follow? For me that's the hook of the Lambo Huracan Performante right now

Im sure if Lambo wanted to bolt on a couple of Turbos right now they could extract a Gazillion Horsepower

To close I am 6 and a little bit foot tall and fit no problem into my current Perormante and the Huracan,However my head does stick out of the Juno cockpit a little

RamboLambo said:

Lets hope so but no different than all the hype surrounding any new supercar launch. You could use the same words and just change the name of the manufacturer.
I think you previously said Performante was roughly £240k which is not exactly cheap.

In general I think Huracan has been a little disappointing. Too many cars landed in Britain at launch ( 2 years supply in 1 hit ) and reviews were indifferent. Lots of cheap Huracans out there today.

I was invited to test drive a Huracan spyder for the weekend. Looked terrific but having sat in it and tried to look through the letterbox of a windscreen I politely declined on the basis it was almost dangerous to drive and if I put the roof down my head was sticking up above the roof line. PS I'm only 5'10".
Maybe with the racing seats and coupe roofline you will sit lower in cabin and at least be able to see where you are going. Hopefully the bigger engineering team have adjusted the rake of the windscreen to make it useable and not just pretty

Anyway McLaren 720S is supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread and set new benchmarks as well, at the same price point.

Roll on Geneva, a lot of exciting supercars coming our way.

Edited by Juno on Saturday 11th February 13:16

Edited by Juno on Saturday 11th February 13:22

[Juno]

It is not strictly limited to a number but more buy how many get ordered within a time frame so should in effect be available to anyone who wants one. I think the wait will be based on what dealer you have ordered from and their allocation versus order book etc

Private viewings are taking place now and I am going tomorrow,

Yes official launch Geneva

foxsasha said:

I know nothing about the Performante, is it a limited edition car so instantly unobtainable for the majority. Is it being released at Geneva?

[Juno]

As many as I feel like, If you don't like them then you don't have to read them,your choice

johnnyreggae said:

OP: Out of interest have you any idea how many more Performante plugging threads you intend to start in the next few weeks ?

Edited by Juno on Saturday 11th February 17:08

[Juno]

Here you go guys something to keep your mind away from car threads;

The latest washing machine reviews: http://www.trustedreviews.com/beko-wmb91442l-revie... Let us know which model you go for

I think Rambo uses a rock in the stream at the end of his garden so he probably won't participate in this one!

Enjoy

EpsomJames said:

johnnyreggae said:

OP: Out of interest have you any idea how many more Performante plugging threads you intend to start in the next few weeks ?

I think he is trying to complete with RamboLambo's McLaren threads on that front, although so far ihe's not in he same ballpark

Do agree however that I am excited to see the new Huracan Performante and with the launch of the 720S it's already shaping up for a good year for supercars.

Edited by Juno on Saturday 11th February 17:05

[Juno]

+1

foxsasha said:

Ill have a look when Im there then. Sounds exciting

[Juno]

I have a short Body nough said

Ferruccio said:

RamboLambo said:

Juno said:

Edited by Juno on Saturday 11th February 13:16

Edited by Juno on Saturday 11th February 13:22

That picture is exactly what I looked like in the Huracan Spyder without the helmet at my towering 5'10" so all I can say is if you are 6' something 4' must be your legs and 2' your upper body. Best you stay in the car 24/7 as you will look weird when you get out

I didn't and I'm 6ft. Maybe leave your booster seat behind next time?

[Juno]

Just off to Stanford Bridge to see the new Huracan Performante

[Juno]

Can't say anything specific as you know.

Car is Epic, looks great with a quality yet racy feel to the interior, a really nice place to be, sports seats are excellent and very comfortable, another leap forward!!!

I love that they have stayed with the rawness of the V10 and 4wd in a very reasonable weight package. One thing Lambo are proving for sure is it's about getting the power to the ground to make it useable. Plenty of cars out there with more BHP but it doesn't always translate to performance!

Think Lambo will do well with this car and looking forward to hitting the configuration in Geneva!

No conformation of Lap Time at he Ring but the rumours are rife and sounds like it has crushed the position by a long way

Onto Geneva

[Juno]

BHP 640ish but nothing confirmed 100% until Geneva and once the numbers are revealed the weight at just over 1400kgs won't be an issue,hold on to your internal organs or just your organ

RamboLambo said:

Whats the bhp and weight ?

I've always liked the sure footedness of 4WD although the purists will say RWD all the way but for me weight is most definitely a killer. By its nature a 4WD will be heavier
Lighter cars just feel more alive and responsive and it makes a big difference to performance

[Juno]

Yes Spyder to follow but the focus now on Performante name (performance ) rather than (Superleggera) lightweight, so in future Performante coupe, Performante Spyder, I will probably order the Spyder soon but its a few years away!

RamboLambo said:

Cool, that's a bigger power hike on Gallardo superleggerra and performante.

With Lambo using the performante name for the coupe ????? does that mean no lightweight spyder edition to follow ?

[Juno]

720Sand1299 said:

Juno said:

BHP 640ish but nothing confirmed 100% until Geneva and once the numbers are revealed the weight at just over 1400kgs won't be an issue,hold on to your internal organs or just your organ

RamboLambo said:

Whats the bhp and weight ?

I've always liked the sure footedness of 4WD although the purists will say RWD all the way but for me weight is most definitely a killer. By its nature a 4WD will be heavier
Lighter cars just feel more alive and responsive and it makes a big difference to performance

Looking forward to seeing the 720S up against this - 80kg lighter and 80hp more vs a LOAD of downforce should be an epic track battle. 2017 starting well.

Your move Maranello.

It would appear that Lambo have found something rather special in this new aero area,weight and power alone do not add up to the new rumored lap time so the bigger gains must be in the aero area but I'm no expect on aero.

Much over 600BHP can be difficult to hook up and gain traction,so its not 100% about lighter and more powerful always adds up to quicker. Just look at the GTR,weighs a Ton 550BHP but easily breaks 3 seconds to 100kms

Macca will defo be lighter and more powerful but it has a lot of work to do if it wants to go quicker around a track,its going to be interesting to see what happens?

[Juno]

PurpleAki said:

RamboLambo said:

McLaren are kings of the aero.

Yeah, thought they might be...

Juno produces 570kgs at 150MPH weighs 570Kgs Lol Beat that

Edited by Juno on Sunday 12th February 21:34

[Juno]

PurpleAki said:

RamboLambo said:

McLaren are kings of the aero.

Yeah, thought they might be...

But can they find the Ring with there Sat Nav

Edited by Juno on Sunday 12th February 21:33

[Juno]

Yipper said:

Juno said:

720Sand1299 said:

Juno said:

BHP 640ish but nothing confirmed 100% until Geneva and once the numbers are revealed the weight at just over 1400kgs won't be an issue,hold on to your internal organs or just your organ

RamboLambo said:

Whats the bhp and weight ?

I've always liked the sure footedness of 4WD although the purists will say RWD all the way but for me weight is most definitely a killer. By its nature a 4WD will be heavier
Lighter cars just feel more alive and responsive and it makes a big difference to performance

Looking forward to seeing the 720S up against this - 80kg lighter and 80hp more vs a LOAD of downforce should be an epic track battle. 2017 starting well.

Your move Maranello.

It would appear that Lambo have found something rather special in this new aero area,weight and power alone do not add up to the new rumored lap time so the bigger gains must be in the aero area but I'm no expect on aero.

Much over 600BHP can be difficult to hook up and gain traction,so its not 100% about lighter and more powerful always adds up to quicker. Just look at the GTR,weighs a Ton 550BHP but easily breaks 3 seconds to 100kms

Macca will defo be lighter and more powerful but it has a lot of work to do if it wants to go quicker around a track,its going to be interesting to see what happens?

The P1 had 900bhp and still couldn't break the 7min Nurb barrier. McLaren have a lot of work to do on the 720S and whatever new models are coming out next week if it wants to catch Lambo and Porsche.

I didn't realise that the P1 had attempted the Ring Record

[Juno]

RamboLambo said:

isaldiri said:

Disagree. there is a significant difference between a car that is ~1450 kg fully fuelled (various gt3s, Mclaren/Speciale etc) and one nearer 1600kg (R8/458/Huracan). If the articles are right the Performante drops only 40-50kg which isn't a lot vs the standard car.

4wd is faster in accelerating at low speeds I agree. apart from that it isn't always faster.

In any case I do find it quite interesting how much the supposed performance of the Performante is now being talked up vs the rest just because the manufacturer said so....

Proof will be in the pudding. At the moment all we have is speculation and hype.

Looking forward to the unveil

You may think its all speculation and Hype I am somewhat more confident

[Juno]

GameOverMan! said:

I currently have a 570-SL and I'm not really a fan of the Huracan, technically very capable but not my cup of team in terms of looks etc. I made the 9 hour round trip journey to the preview event on Sunday, and I was kind of hoping it would rule it out of my replacement car options for 2017/2018.

However, despite the colour of the preview car not being the best, I found that the car does have a lot more appeal than I expected. I personally don't buy cars based on carbon tubs, trick aero, top speeds or lap times but what they look like and how they sound/make me feel. The car has some very nice touches and the seats are great. Don't get me wrong there are bits I'm not keen on but overall there are a lot of plus points - some visual, some under the skin.

I think in the right colour with the optional wheels (which look awesome) then this car will be fantastic. A very purposeful looking and potent little 'bull' which will keep you very entertained. The alternative for me is to spend the cash on a used Aventador, but that is a very different proposition indeed.

So I'm still mulling on the route forward.... GoM.

I'm with you but once I looked past the colour and the wheels and specked it as mine will be I was sold.

I'm going White or Green (Solid)

Gloss Black Including Marble Carbon Areas,Paint any Grills Gloss Black,Black Roof and Pillars,Black Exhausts,Centre Lock Wheels Gloss Black and either Red Calipers Red Stitching or Yellow Calipers Yellow Stitching

Job Done

[Juno]

RamboLambo said:

Sounds interesting but I think "game changing" seems to be banded around far too often these days although it does need to be significantly better than the standard Huracan to be any good and competitive with 488 and 720s.

Hope its a cracker and they build a wild spyder as well

Er compete with 488 Lol

[Juno]

Nightmare said:

My business partner saw this on Monday.......the aero is definitely a game changer for lambo at least.....the car sounds like it is going to be absolutely epic (especially if you love the huracan which I do). Some really cool and clever stuff in this car.

I don't really fit in the spyder either (6'1). But the coupe is brilliant seating position-wise

+1 Sir Well Said