Huracan help - 1st time buyer - owner advice please

Huracan help - 1st time buyer - owner advice please

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tigertiger12

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Friday 29th January 2021
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I was looking at buying a Mclaren 570S, read some posts saying prices have stayed the same for about a year due to covid and a halt in production of new cars which has increased demand for used cars therefore prices staying high.

I'm wondering if this was the same for the Huracan, it seems so... if i remember right.
This has made me think I should take some more time which would also allow me to spend a bit more.
I will be buying outright as I cannot afford to finance.
I was looking around £90 - £100k for a Mclaren but my wife now says she prefers the Huracan which is more like £115k at the cheapest end.
I could maybe get to around £125 - £135k max in a few months and need some advice. I will keep my eye out now and if something catches me I can buy it now but will mean i'm on rice with rice for a couple of months, but hey it'll be worth it!

With the 570S, i went to see one and found 4-5 panels on the outside and 2-3 pieces of interior trim that were misaligned, the dealer stated this was due to being hand built, while I understand this is the case, for me this was a little too much and the exterior panels had obvious gaps which were very visible so this put me off as I wanted to find one that had less misaligned parts. The vehicle was a 2016. Would this be the same case for the Huracan? I do have some experience with seeing these cars much more Lamborghini's than Mclarens but this was a few years back and I never noticed this before but probably didn't look as hard as I did as I wasn't buying one at the time.

I have read that Lambo try to get out of warranty claims and the warranty is not as comprehensive as some other supercar warranties.
This has opened me up to buying outside the dealer network and buying a separate warranty. Can any owners advise me on a good warranty company and prices? Or advise me if the Lambo dealer warranty is worth it and how much this would be on a 2015/16 LP610?

I have a couple of dealer adverts state the vehicle comes with the remainder of the 4 year warranty but this was on a 2015 or 16 car. How would this be the case? Do Lambo offer a 4 year extended warranty. How many years do you get with a new Lambo? Any idea of pricing would be really helpful and how long can the warranty be extended for.

Any other tips would be very helpful. Is there anything I should know / look out for??

I'm only looking to keep the car for 2 maybe 3 years as I have a Tesla Roadster on order but as this has been delayed I have decided to buy another vehicle until the Tesla is ready for production at which point I will sell the Lambo and if possible change my Tesla order to a founders edition if they are still available at the time. It is possible this could be 3 years away...who knows! I'm far from early on the list as my order was only placed a year ago, so I should have plenty of time to be able to sell the lambo.

How much are services on a Huracan?
How much to change the pads and steel discs?
What make of tyres are approved by Lambo?

I am based in the U.K

tigertiger12

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Drl22 said:
Lots of questions there;

Glaring one is the brakes are carbon ceramic not steel , they should last the life of the car but the condition needs checking because they are very expensive to replace.

Cost of service was around £1700 from memory and extended warranty was £3000ish. It seemed to be very comprehensive compared to the Ferrari warranty for example but in my ownership it did not need any warranty work at all. I don’t know how long you can warranty them for but I’d guess it’s around 10 years so in the ownership period you mention you’ll be fine.

Pricing wise, they have lost money since I sold mine, a similar 2015 I could buy for around £5k less before negotiation than I sold mine for last year. Pricing of the older cars is a little more resilient in my opinion though as they are propped up by the bottom of the market for them.

Never noticed any panel gaps at all, it was a perfect car in that regard but I only really have knowledge of my one car.

Lamborghini insist on P zeros for their warranty which is ridiculous but there you go. I’ve got 4s’ on my car now and the difference is night and day.

They are great cars and the most worry free performance car motoring I’ve had, they truly are bullet proof if they’ve been serviced and looked after.




Edited by Drl22 on Friday 29th January 07:33
Thank you for your reply, Mclarens usually have carbon ceramics, I dont mind at least they last some time before they need replacing which justifies the cost for me.
Indeed I check the condition of the brakes and can arrange a PPI if outside the dealer network.

Sadly many supercars insist on PZero's and sorry but I hate them, very much and some more.
They must be on a huge backhander!

The number of panel gaps and dealer not being bothered about them on the 570 put me off,
now you are sealing the decision.
I hope to use daily which keeps such cars in good working order, not too many miles but a daily (after covid)

I really appreciate your advice.

tigertiger12

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Friday 29th January 2021
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BigR said:
A lot of questions indeed! I've not had a Mclaren, but am surprised to hear of the panel gaps etc... They have had some quality issues which are fairly well known, but not in terms of what sounds like maybe even rebuild / indications of something that has gone before.

Anyhoo... I have a 2017 Huracan. They come with a 4 year warranty. Services vary a bit in price depending on which service it is, but between £1400-1800 once a year is a reasonable expectation. They are, however, bullet proof. I've yet to find anyone who has had a problem with there's of any note - if anything at all! The dealers speak of them in similar terms, that the Aventador was a good step forward, but the Huracan reliability has been on another level. The build quality similarly is excellent - i have no rattles or issues whatsoever. My only advice though would be to try them for size, as they aren't super big in size and if you're a powerfully built company director sort, you may struggle a touch.

I've yet to investigate extension of the warranty, but it's something I'll consider. As with cars of this nature, the parts can be quite expensive. I've heard many thousands for a replacement headlamp for example. A lot have been wrapped or had PPF, which is a good thing by the way, as the front will chip simply due to how low down it is. Speaking of which, check the spec - the odd one didn't have a lift added to it as it is an optional extra. Don't even contemplate not having the lift! The car overall is eminently usable and I see people using them more or less as their daily drive.

My only gripes with the car have been i) it is a bit small inside - I'm 6'1" - I have a Spyder so the roof is down if its not raining and of course then its not a problem ii) there's no where to put anything in the car, so finding a cheap phone holder or some such to stick discreetly somewhere is not a bad idea - unless you're happy for it to slide around in the door pocket iii) DAB is terrible and basically doesn't work, and the Satnav...well they don't provide the traffic on them but we all use googlemaps right anyway!?

Other than that its been the most reliable car I've ever owned and won't be leaving me. Ever! ...as it was a lifelong dream.
I took pics of the panel gaps, it wasn't 1 or 2. Makes me wonder if they are repairable, really put me off and I had my heart set on one and its much cheaper than a huracan.
I know a great company that could fix it but for some reason they also charge money for this! Again, 1 or two i may sort myself.

I do like ppf but full panel ppf, i can have this done. even just full front end ppf is fine but full panel.
Indeed I was shocked by the pics of the mclaren and the small size when I got in it but I am familiar with the huracan and the large centre console but we are both very small so size isn't and issue. I may use my front end to steer as lockdown has made it grow! This is easily rectified! Lift is a must for me also, i'm often around London (pre-covid) where there can be speed humps.
I like the 'powerfully built company director sort' this made me chuckle.

Yes google maps is great. Most manufacturer sat navs are rubbish. Such a shame.

I think i'm edging more towards the Huracan than mclaren.
Any donations would be much appreciated!!!
I may start a go fund me!!
If they were around £100k I'd jump, but it should only be a few more months in any case

Thanks again for your advice

tigertiger12

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sardis said:
I’ve had a couple of Huracans too. Covered approx 20,000 miles between them and likewise they never missed a beat. Had two Gallardos previously, similar sort of collective mileage and the most significant failure was the windscreen washer hose on the passenger side coming off the pump. I’ve posted a couple of owner experience threads elsewhere on here but in terms of reliability there’s nothing to report. That’s it really biggrin.

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Well that's me out then, could not put up with the windscreen washer hose coming off the less significant side also!!
really amazing to hear this, I assume you fixed this at no cost!

You guys are really pushing me into a huracan.
I guess i'll spend some time doing more research and as time passes hopefully I can get into one in a few months.

tigertiger12

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I was wondering if these cars have a brake hold feature, where I press hard on the brake and the vehicle stays where it is without my foot being on the brake?
If so what is it called or is it standard on all huracans?
How does it work as some are different, is it automatic so i don't even have to press the brake hard where it activates when the car comes to a stop?

tigertiger12

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Gameface said:
I've had 2 Gallardo spyders, a Huracan Performante Spyder and an Aventador.

Not had a single issue with any of them.

My previous Ferraris on the other hand...
another plus. Thanks
Go fund me link coming soon!

tigertiger12

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R8Reece said:
Panel issues are sadly a quality control issue, not a hand made issue. That's rubbish.

There are some Macs out there that suffer from poor panel alignment and Thorney have highlighted the issue in one of their videos. Fixing it isn't quick either so I would steer clear. I think one Mac dealer up north even tried to get customers to sign a document on collection where they would agree to the panel issue being normal - that practice quickly stopped.

However my recollection is that some Macs suffer from it, some don't but cars earlier in the production build are more likely to suffer from it. There are plenty without the issue so choose one of those.

Cannot recall reading on here about panel issues on Huracan's.
Absolutely agree and this was our first thought, being QC, or lack of...
Again, we decided against and thought we will look for one without.
Like I said, if Macca cant fix it what chance do I have, could be why this car is unsold and the price dropped by £5k despite low mileage and good spec.
Was then told 4 months left for service but nothing doing from them when I asked, then changed their mind on this as I steered away from the purchase. Again no mention of the misaligned panels which there are a few of.
That signing a document thing is bad.

Just don't like the ignorance to the issue, the cover up and side step, how about cover up the gaps and make the panels fit!

Now i'm here reading about Lambo's that I understand should be very reliable but also cost more to drive and maintain, however this is the trade up.
I'm sure in 6 months I can justify the costs with some for incidentals.
Well it's rice with rice at my house...but no one's invited errr it's covid!!!

tigertiger12

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I see on the steering wheel there are 2 sets of 3 buttons in the lower part of the steering wheel.
The left ones have icons but the right ones don't, do these have a use? Are the ones with no icons option dependant?

Also still wondering if the car has brake hold function? If so is it automatic when the car stops or hard press on the brake to activate?

tigertiger12

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Saturday 30th January 2021
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BigR said:
I optioned the cruise control just because I didn't want any blank buttons! A little OTT maybe, but... The only thing I didn't add was the cup holder that pops out the dash (a few hundred quid) because I didn't want to encourage such behaviour in my car :-)

Regarding the brake hold thing, I've not come across it or thought about it. It's tucked up under a blanket in the garage at present so can't even take it out for a quick spin to try it, sorry! I definitely don't recall it as an option though and haven't heard anyone mention it (not that it means it doesn't exist). My assumption is that it doesn't have it, but I truly don't know, sorry!

Sounds like you've edged a lot towards the Huracan. It's worth the wait - 6mths will fly by! And you should still be able to experience the summer in it! Keep us posted when you pull the trigger...

Btw, if you're into that kind of thing there is a Lambo UK club. Things have obviously been on hold for the best part of a year now, but generally reasonably active, with drive outs, lunchtime pub meets, a couple of weekend trips away in Europe and the UK each year. And really, really no snobbishness - we're a very mixed bunch of people of all ages and backgrounds, who love their cars - and don't turn up in all the branded gear unlike a certain other Italian manufacturer ;-)
Indeed, I tend to feel the same about the cruise control as blank buttons are a bit naff. I hope I can find one with the cruise control but i'm also at the lower end of the market so can't be too fussy.
Interesting info about the cup holder, didn't realise it was an option but good way to avoid any spillage.

Not to worry about the brake hold, it does seem the vehicle doesn't have it which is a shame but not a deal breaker, i've had it on a few cars and is very handy, at lights or on an incline, you can hover over the accelerator and just press it when the lights change so fairly quick get away also. I am sensible though and don't race.

I took a look at a couple of Lambo forums and the one you mentioned which seem to suggest better reliability and warranty by Lambo with Mclaren edging out of claims and Lambos just being more reliable which has put me closer to Lambo, cheaper is not always better and a bit longer for a car I would be happier about will probably work out better in the long run for me. I will indeed keep you posted though it may be some time, I really don't know.

I would like to join the club membership again there is a difference between the mclaren and lambo official club, anyone can join the lambo club with a discount for under 16's but ownership requirement for mclaren after all the passion starts from a very young age. The club members do sound like a great crowd and all here have been very nice and no snobbishness even here on this thread which is very nice as I was jumped on in my Mclaren thread, had some 'show off's' which I suppose can be expected anywhere but was by a few and as soon as I mentioned my interest in a Lambo was called a liar and had to defend myself. It ended up amusing my wife and I as it didn't stop, they would not leave it and the same point was jumped on repeatedly by a few differently people which sadly made me think negatively about a few of owners, not everyone is the same I know.

I hope to make a purchase soon and will keep the thread updated and may have more questions upon arrival.
I hope my wife turning up at Lambo meets with her Mercedes / Hamilton cap on will be ok!!!! But the people seem very kind and decent so I'm sure this wont be an issue! We are big F1 fans and she is very knowledgable about F1 also and I'm sure many would enjoy a conversation with her. She is very excited about a Lambo, much more so than the Mclaren though she does like Mclaren and the doors. We like all cars. We both went to view the 570S and both saw and took pics of the panel gaps which really put her off that vehicle, also the dealers ignorance to resolving them made us think twice about the brand / service then reading these posts gives us more confidence in getting a Lambo.

Thanks to all people on here for your advice, It has been a big help and I really appreciate your time.

tigertiger12

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Sunday 31st January 2021
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Skittles001 said:
I’m 99.9% sure the Huracan has a standard brake hold feature.

I just sold mine (2014 610-4) after two years. Not a single issue with it and I didn’t renew the warranty. I ended up part exchanging it for a Performante. I really enjoyed the Huracan.

For me the must have is lift and the rear view camera. I preferred the slats at the back rather than clear engine cover. Front PPF is a good idea, should cost you 1.5-1.8k.

My only real niggle with the car is a lack of boot capacity.

They are really good cars, but so are the McLarens. I had a 650 spider and loved it but haven’t owned a 570. I do recommend keeping the McLaren under warranty as they are more likely to have niggles than the Huracan but I wouldn’t let that put you off - I’d get another McLaren in the future without hesitation.



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Edited by Skittles001 on Saturday 30th January 21:15
The brake hold feature is very handy, I do hope it does have this feature.
agree with all points you make except I don't mind the glass engine cover but the slats do look very good also, but I'm not fussy about this as again i'm at the lower end of the market so other options such as rear camera and front lift are a must.

Boot capacity is a shame but I also have a cayenne if I need more space.

The more I read about Mclaren the more I see them having issues and with dealers side stepping warranty claims and the more I read about the huracan the more I see they are much more reliable. I did expect to spend a bit more here and there with a Mclaren but now i'm inclined towards the huracan which is spending more now for more reliability and maybe less costs in the future. It didn't help the Mc dealer not being bothered about the panel gaps which there are a few of. Initially they wanted me to buy it over email without a viewing until collection due to lockdown. I'm glad I refused and went to have a look without contact with anyone, they left it outside for me and unlocked it from inside the dealership when I got there. I now know why the car is still unsold even after low mileage, owners and a £5k drop in price. I just feel that would have been dishonest, I know I could have seen it up collection but feel that maybe being overcome with excitement I may have missed looking as much. I feel with the gaps that a Mc dealer should point this out, i know they want to sell but from a buyers perspective it should be pointed out. I believe I got here from nothing to be able to afford these cars by being honest. I am far from rich but this beyond my expectations.

I also need to think about pricing as they seem a little high due to the virus causing a halt in production keeping the used market prices high. Maybe I should wait a little longer as restrictions may be eased in the next few months, which will help my finances also. I can purchase now and just take it easy for a few months if I find the right car. Hatfield have one at £120k, 20k miles, 3 owners, 2015, front lift, rear camera, white, black wheels and the wheel I like, just very little spec but affordable. PPF at least for the front I can get done. I may be able to get it delivered local to hatfield for a further inspection and passing that front end ppf.

tigertiger12

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Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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TonyF said:
If it’s a choice between the Mac and the huracan then huracan all day long. I have a performante spider ( so a tad biase) and it hasn’t missed a beat in the 2 and a bit years I’ve owned her and every mile has put a massive smile on my face. The noise of that V10 is intoxicating and very addictive.
On the negative side( for maclaren anyway) I have friends and family members that do and have owned maclarens and there’s not a positive word from any of them regarding ownership I’m not at all surprised about your recent findings on the 570 re panel gaps etc. It’s not good ownership experience and I’ll leave it there before being flamed by Mac owners !!
Had a Gallardo spider around 7 years ago and was the same story there, very reliable and a great fun car.
Good luck with your huracan search, I know you will enjoy every second driving it.
Indeed I agree with you totally, the sound is very important and I was looking for a Mac with a sports exhaust but still the sound is not in the same league as the Huracan which is one of the most important features the wife wants, as do I. This then makes the quality of the hifi less important as the sound from the car better than music. The B&W upgrade on the 570S was shockingly bad quality considering the upgrade price and that it was made by B&W, with their being less sound from the engine I would use the hifi more in the 570S. With the sound from the Huracan, my wife would probably not bother with the hifi at all. Then there is the addition of the pops and bangs on the huracan which she would also love and has asked about! At first she was happy with buying a Mac but she also saw the panel gaps and dealer communication basically ignoring this. With the Huracan she is far more excited and constantly talking about it much much more than the Mac, which died down after a few days.

As time has gone on I have seen more about reliability and dealer issues regarding the Mac which is sad. I will always like Mac's but makes me think twice about buying one, which is the same feeling I have about Ferrari. It is usual with these types of cars that problems take time to resolve which would be a big problem as I would like to use it as a low mileage daily driver, but would be a problem if it's at a dealer repeatedly.

Thank you for your input, I appreciate your advice and experience very much, it helps me greatly.

tigertiger12

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OLDBENZ said:
I owned a Gallardo (stick shift) in the UK for 9 years from new in 2005 and it was nearly faultless over 36,000 miles. I currently have a 2017 LP610-4 which I bought new. I have approx 10,000 miles on that. Likewise faultless save for a warranty claim for a new cup holder. No complaint about H R Owen in London on the servicing side, either.
Again another plus for the Huracan, and again the issue you had completely irrelevant, that non cost cup holder issue must have made you want to return the vehicle immediately, ha.

Thanks again for giving your experience, it all helps a lot and I am grateful for your time.

tigertiger12

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Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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Skittles001 said:
Just checked - hill hold is there.

You are a superstar, thanks for that, the only concern I have is that it states 'the vehicle must be on an upward slope'
I would want to activate the feature at traffic lights on a flat road.
it certainly helps when the car is on an upward slope but I do use this feature a lot every time I drive.

Certainly not a deal breaker and even this helps when on an incline, but would be interesting to know if I can use this at the lights.
If anyone else knows about this, it would be very much appreciated, if not maybe I will ask private sellers as they are more likely to know and answer correctly than a dealer, maybe.

I really appreciate the time you have spent to find the answer to this for me, it really is a great feature on any car.
Thank you very much.

tigertiger12

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I feel there has been good feedback and experience from huracan owners which really helps my decision. Certainly more always helps.

There is one currently on autotrader just under £115k which is a very very tempting price that I am inclined to jump at with only 1 owner for private sale.
I would have the vehicle inspected by HR Owen and a further inspection prior to front ppf installation which is by a very well known company that has a very good reputation that no doubt some of you know and use. I'm also considering waiting to see if I can get a higher spec or 2016 car.

Due to the reliability of the Huracan I feel more confident to buy one privately or from a non main dealer without a dealer warranty but I would have any vehicle inspected twice for peace of mind. Please let me know how you feel about this, if you feel this is not a good idea, please let me know. I didn't feel this was the case with the Mac.

I will get a warranty, so recommendations would be good but only without a claim limit, If anyone has any experience with RAC platinum or plat Plus warranties that would be great. But if there are better warranty companies I would be grateful for recommendations.

If I buy outside the dealer network without a dealer warranty then I will have a blackvue installed probably the new version of the Dr 900s, the DR900X with a 24hr battery, rear cam and 4G LTE module. With this I don't need a tracker.

I may even have a carbon fibre rear spoiler installed, depends on how much I get the car for, if I spend more than I expect then this can wait or be left.

tigertiger12

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DamanC said:
Any "un-normal" car, or a car over a certain value from private needs a PPI from someone in the know, unless you really know what you are looking for. A Genuine seller will be fine with this.

3rd Party warranty is generally not worth the paper printed on lots of caveats, put what you save in a "repair pot", law of averages says you will be better off.
I would go through the 3rd party warranty, some are very good.
I think for my first lambo i'd want a warranty for at least a couple of years then may switch to 'repair pot'

Engine or gearbox issues worry me which would put my 'repair pot' backwards especially in the first few of years.
After a year or two of no claim driving and having the car inspected again, the repair pot may be the way to go.
However, £4 / £5k a year is peace of mind.

Thanks for the advice, certainly something to think about.

tigertiger12

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A few huracans have been added to autotrader in the last couple of days.
I do think with the covid vaccine and apparent fewer cases may bring more to the market from people whom have wanted to sell and change up but haven't been able to due to lower production numbers.

I may just hang on and see how it goes over the next two months, the low end of the market may get to £105k in a few months from the £115k it currently is. I could then look at the £115 / £120 mark for a decent(ish) spec model, it is hard to find cruise control at this price point, I do use cruise control, it does help stick to 30 or 40mph for example and those blank buttons are annoying but it isn't an essential option, if i found the right car without cruise i'd buy it.

I do think we may soon see more come to the market as lockdown eases and people feel we may return to some normality though I still feel it will take a long time to return to what life was like before.

I appreciate all the advice posted, it has all been very helpful and reassuring for me, I will no doubt get a huracan at some point.
My Tesla Roadster order will take time to fulfil. I doubt I will get it till 2023, the factory has to be completed, production start, then get to my order which
was only a year ago but at least Tesla is in a good financial position to be able to do this. This gives me the ability to buy a huracan in place of the Tesla and possibly give me time to save more to keep both. If not I will sell the huracan for the Tesla.

I can also look into the huracan more to learn more about the options and the car itself and get a 2016 car.
I always appreciate more advice and will keep this thread updated and add pics when I make my purchase.

tigertiger12

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Wednesday 10th February 2021
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There are a number of cars available in white, they are at good prices but making me wonder if the colour does not help resale.
I like the vehicle in white but there are 5 on the first page of autotrader (options: 2015+, coupe, 610-4).

Are cupholders standard? I believe there is one behind the centre console and one to the left of the oil pressure, temp and water gauges?

I'm liking the TEB and forged carbon engine bay so may have to increase my budget (again) slightly to accommodate for this. More importantly I like the extra view with the TEB rather than the louvred panels especially as the wife will also drive the vehicle and she needs all the help she can get.

I have also seen a couple with sensonum audio system and the advert also says infotainment system II, are these 2 separate items? What is included with the infotainment system II and what is the sensonum audio system? Or the difference between them?

If I get a car without euro maps, it is a simple change of a disk to get the euro maps as I will need this?

I see a few lp-580-2's with good specs but sadly I want a 610-4 which can get really pricey with options. Out of interest does anyone know the price of a base 580-2? I believe the 610-4 base is about £180k in 2015 rrp from HR Owen website, is this correct? I thought I read somewhere that it was £160k but now i'm wondering if this is the price for the 580-2? OK just seen that autocar says the 580-2 is £155,400 new and same as HR Owen at £180k for the LP 610-4.

https://www.hrowen.co.uk/lamborghini/huracan-lp-61...

I've seen some videos on youtube about the performante which is £27k more than the LP610-4. Even though it only has an extra 30hp more which decreases the 0-60mph time only and the top speed apparently remains the same, it is actually a flaming beast! I will have a look at some more videos as it does surprise me that the top speed remains the same, I understand it takes a lot more hp to increase the top speed with such powerful cars but thought it would have increased the top speed by 2 - 3mph but HR Owen states the top speed as 202mph which is the same as the 610-4. I know these figures can be conservative on some vehicles. For example Porsches tend to be slightly quicker and have a higher top speed than the manufacturer claims in tests using a GPS device and not the speedo. The speedo in Mclarens in particular the 570s can be around 10mph out at high speed. There is a video on youtube where it hit 205mph (204mph mclaren claim) as indicated by a Garmin VIRB but the speedo showed 217mph on the car itself, a whopping 12mph difference. I have also seen the huracan 610-4 hit a top speed of 205mph and another hitting 212mph with a novitec exhuast. Interestingly I saw a vehicle with a lambo warranty with a 'race' exhaust which was a £7k upgrade, would this be the novitec exhaust? If it is then it is well worth the £7k and I would probably consider this to be a 'must have' option.

Mclaren speedo accuracy test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji7Yb_PGNUQ


tigertiger12

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Wednesday 10th February 2021
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Turbo cab said:
Having owned both my thoughts are the following, all in my opinion of course wink.

McLaren build quality and reliability are both disastrous, it's a shame as they are a brilliant drivers car and once remapped make for a serious bit of kit that not a lot contends with - when it works that is.

The Huracan, never had a problem with the one warranty claim I had to make over three cars and 15k miles and was well reimbursed for the trouble, they are slower than the McLaren however, they feel fast due the awesome soundtrack and there are no problems in terms of build quality, they are probably one of the most reliable of all the exotic brands with Mclaren being by and far the worst, McLaren also doesn't sound that great either.

As it's your first experience you don't really want it soured by having an unreliable car that spends a lot of time in the garage being repaired so I would point you in the direction of the Lambo. I also found with the Mac it didn't give the same same level of excitement that you get when owning and driving an Italian exotic, the sound the emotion and the smiles per mile smile

In terms of attention they're probably on par with each other, the McLaren more people tend to stop and talk to you as they don't really know what it is where as people know what the Lamborghini is and admire.

Brakes are carbon ceramic so will not need disks replacing unless you track it hard and the pads do last quite a while before replacement unless again driving hard, I would guestimate 20k miles + on pads - our Urus needed pads at 24k miles but that is a big heavy beast that was driven berry hard.

Huracan Servicing is approx £1200 for a minor and around £2500 for a major - this is from memory as I didn't have any of mine long enough to service.

Huracan warranty is indeed 4 years and I'm pretty sure I read this can now be extended as was not the case before but can't comment on costs.
I am set on the huracan, in particular due to reliability and build quality which I saw and then researched to find was common on older models, the dealer being ignorant towards this didn't help either which led to me read about Mac dealers being like in general, at least a fair amount of people have experienced this. I'm not even looking at Mac's any more.

I do agree with all the points you make but was surprised that more people stop you to talk about the mclaren but understand why, their cars look very similar so can be difficult to differentiate also.
Indeed i'm not expecting to change the CCB but will have them checked / inspected during the ppi's, so twice. Though I suppose really it's 1 ppi and 1 where it will be delivered and ppf applied so very soon after purchase. I'm therefore not budgeting for disc's. I am very interested in the 'exhaust' upgrade, especially if it increases power but will then have to have this checked and will have to budget for this to be changed, though the vehicle I purchase will be low mileage and they can last a long time, it also depends on how the previous owner has driven. At least if I do budget for this I don't get caught short or make this cause me concern. I do see that a lot of people fit aftermarket exhausts on Lambo's, I think they had issues in the past with some early Gallardo's or people straight pipe them for more sound and power but this is not for me, i'd rather go with a factory exhaust race or novitec (if the novitec is factory)

Servicing costs are good, so far as I don't need too much more! Mclaren actually allow you to supply oil!

thanks for your comments.

tigertiger12

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s2000db said:
The reason the Performante might not have a higher top speed (I doubt it tbh), is because of the active aerodynamics it uses to increase its cornering speed.
This is the reason that this car can lap quicker than cars with over 100hp more, and took the Nurburgring lap record on release.
It’s not all about drag times and top speed with the Performante! biggrin
I'm sure the performante does have a slightly higher top speed also. In any case as you said it's not all about top speed or drag times, though I have seen the performante drag times being much much better. It has a lot more grunt and puts the power down well.

It is a monster and a beast, anyone that has one is very lucky indeed, what a car.

tigertiger12

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BigR said:
To answer a couple of your specific questions:

Lambo race exhaust - not necessarily. There is a Lamborghini race exhaust which is a dealer fit. I have one :-) It's very loud and apparently not for road use. I of course use it on the road, you'll never get stopped, who'll be able to tell etc... as the dealer had one fitted to their demonstrator as a case in point! But it could be a Novitec or something else fitted - you'd need to ask to be sure.

The base price of around £180k sounds about right from the time. I think they bumped the prices around a bit a couple of years ago, but I forget. The 580-2 is a bit less for sure.

Audio - Sensonum is the upgraded factory system. It is very good in my opinion (I got that too on mine!), so I can only assume infotainment system II is the same...

Maps - the inbuilt satnav is rubbish as because, as I understand it, Lambo wouldn't pay for the traffic subscription, so its basically an electronic AA map. But ask yourself whether that matters as we all use google maps or whatever. The Evo has Android etc in-built as I understand it, but the previous models don't, so basically you have to go old-skool with a phone holder and your phone. But really, it doesn't matter in the scheme of things. The satnav will however be a European map - not just UK - as standard.

Cupholders - no, there are none. Unless you a few hundred quid to have one - and only one - that pops out the passenger side dashboard. Its about the only option I didn't take. Frankly if you're driving it'd be a bit dubious to reach it. Alternatively don't encourage such disgusting behaviour as people drinking coffee in your nice Lambo ;-) Overall they're fairly terrible for storage. I bought a £3 plastic thing from ebay which is discreetly down by the right side, stuck to the side of the car which holds my phone and whatever. But overall there's nowhere to put anything. That and headroom are my only gripes with the car and basically you put up with them because everything else is epic!
Thank you for your valuable response. I will ask about the exhaust as I am interested in this option. How much do you think / know it will cost to replace?
Not for road use, ha, ok! Let's just keep that quiet then, even though it's a dealer fit option! Do you feel this has added power to your vehicle?

I don't mind a crap sat nav, From experience they are all quite bad in general from the manufacturer. I don't actually use google maps, though have done on very rare occasions when my car sat nav has let me down but even this has only been for a short length of a journey. I have an old 07 E class (petrol, just thought i'd mention this) and the sat nav is quite bad, but it does work very well and has rarely let me down, it even works in europe but did let me down badly only once in europe. The one in my 16 Cayenne is touchscreen and perfect for me. So I don't actually mind trying to get used to the sat nav in a 15/16 huracan, even with it's limitations, when i've used the merc sat nav and it has let me down, i've used google maps then saved the location on the car to use next time, but understand this does not always work. Thanks for letting me know that euro maps are standard, some ads specifically mention euro maps so I thought it was an option. Now I won't be asking that silly question when I enquire about a car!

I thought I saw a cupholder behind the centre console but I must be wrong. I completely agree this should not be encouraged, especially not hot drinks but I often have cold drinks with a screw cap bottle, but no big deal I can work around this for myself. Defo, reaching a drink in the holder would be awkward, I could just keep one in my laptop bag and stop for a drink.

Looking at the space behind the seats looks fairly good to me. When I get the car I would look to buy some type of bag(s) that would fit there without sliding all over the place to keep a few bits, nothing huge. I do tend to carry a laptop bag and sometimes another small bag around with me, so if I have a passenger the space behind the seats would be very useful for me. Though it seems small, it looks like enough space for me. I'm of average height so headroom wont be an issue for me.


I too would be interested in the discrete plastic thing you bought from ebay, a picture, item number or link would be great.

thanks again for your help and advice.