Rule no 16 and images
Discussion
Given the sudden specific enforcement of rule 16 against Byker, why is rule 16 not more generally enforced for images reproduced on PH?
Reproducing images is no less a copyright infringement than text (unless and exemption applies) and photos unlike text are specifically excluded from the fair dealing defence that applies to news reporting.
Expecting the customary lock in 3, 2, 1…
Reproducing images is no less a copyright infringement than text (unless and exemption applies) and photos unlike text are specifically excluded from the fair dealing defence that applies to news reporting.
Expecting the customary lock in 3, 2, 1…
That’s fine, but it’s not the point. Rule 16 is there to protect the publisher of the site from a legal claim. Pictures are far more frequently pasted into PH than news articles.
Are you really saying that a newspaper/news website has been complaining about content reproduction in the Trump thread?
ETA: must remember to use quote next time. The missing post said that pictures get removed if there is a complaint.
Are you really saying that a newspaper/news website has been complaining about content reproduction in the Trump thread?
ETA: must remember to use quote next time. The missing post said that pictures get removed if there is a complaint.
Let me have another go.
Rule 16 says Do not copy and paste content from newspapers, news sites or other websites. This is a breach of their copyright and any such threads will be deleted.
That rule covers text and images and news and non news sites.
The rule doesn’t say: if PH gets complaints about copying of third party material it will delete it and censure posters. It says don’t do it in the first place. And that is because copying material creates a risk of copyright infringement for PH’s owners. The rule is there to protect PH against complaints from third parties.
There are tons of photos copied into PH, all of which create the same risk of complaints against PH. But none of them get pulled.
The mod position is “yes, because we don’t get complaints about them (photos) from the owners or anyone else”. Fine - that’s a pretty relaxed view of the rule but if that’s how it is enforced, that’s PH’s risk.
Does that mean though that Byker got his ban because a news website complained? Or did he get his ban because other PH posters complained about his posting?
I’m not expecting any engagement on this because it’s for the mods to address. But it would seem odd to allow some posters to silence others via the selective use of a rule that really has nothing to do with the first group of posters.
Rule 16 says Do not copy and paste content from newspapers, news sites or other websites. This is a breach of their copyright and any such threads will be deleted.
That rule covers text and images and news and non news sites.
The rule doesn’t say: if PH gets complaints about copying of third party material it will delete it and censure posters. It says don’t do it in the first place. And that is because copying material creates a risk of copyright infringement for PH’s owners. The rule is there to protect PH against complaints from third parties.
There are tons of photos copied into PH, all of which create the same risk of complaints against PH. But none of them get pulled.
The mod position is “yes, because we don’t get complaints about them (photos) from the owners or anyone else”. Fine - that’s a pretty relaxed view of the rule but if that’s how it is enforced, that’s PH’s risk.
Does that mean though that Byker got his ban because a news website complained? Or did he get his ban because other PH posters complained about his posting?
I’m not expecting any engagement on this because it’s for the mods to address. But it would seem odd to allow some posters to silence others via the selective use of a rule that really has nothing to do with the first group of posters.
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