Why are there so many Aventadors for sale ?
Discussion
Does anyone know how many Aventadors have been produced to date ?
There are currently 103 Aventadors and 14 SVJ’s advertised on PH , which appears to be a large number compared to the Ferrari and McLaren competition
I seem to recall that the number of Aventadors that Sant’ Agata could produce was going to be limited by the fact that they had only produced a limited amount of moulds for the CF chassis , and that each mould could only be used a limited amount of times .
I also seem to recall that the factory had stated that the total number of Aventadors produced would vaguely mirror the number of Murcielagos ( 4099 , if my memory serves me right ) produced
Yet there are only about 17 Murcies , 9 Diablos , and 14 Countachs advertised on PH currently .
So why this discrepancy?
1) PH adverts not reflective of the market ?
2) Overproduction ?
3) Lack of sustained demand as the Aventador abandons the classic Bizzarrini engine and the classic space frame chassis , BUT does not yet embrace the latest EV and gearbox technology ?
Is it viewed as a stopgap ?
4) Overpriced ?
Surely , they are cheap compared to the genuine hypercars , If not to the 720S etc
5) I love the interior of the Aventador , and the huge side vents .
Maybe potential purchasers consider the rest of the car over stylised ?
6) Too much new competition from McLaren ?
7) Reliability issues ?
Could past and present owners comment please ?
8) Current World Economy ?
Brexit ?
Greta ?
Genuinely interested in your thoughts regarding what the PH Adverts section would suggest as gross oversupply of Aventadors
There are currently 103 Aventadors and 14 SVJ’s advertised on PH , which appears to be a large number compared to the Ferrari and McLaren competition
I seem to recall that the number of Aventadors that Sant’ Agata could produce was going to be limited by the fact that they had only produced a limited amount of moulds for the CF chassis , and that each mould could only be used a limited amount of times .
I also seem to recall that the factory had stated that the total number of Aventadors produced would vaguely mirror the number of Murcielagos ( 4099 , if my memory serves me right ) produced
Yet there are only about 17 Murcies , 9 Diablos , and 14 Countachs advertised on PH currently .
So why this discrepancy?
1) PH adverts not reflective of the market ?
2) Overproduction ?
3) Lack of sustained demand as the Aventador abandons the classic Bizzarrini engine and the classic space frame chassis , BUT does not yet embrace the latest EV and gearbox technology ?
Is it viewed as a stopgap ?
4) Overpriced ?
Surely , they are cheap compared to the genuine hypercars , If not to the 720S etc
5) I love the interior of the Aventador , and the huge side vents .
Maybe potential purchasers consider the rest of the car over stylised ?
6) Too much new competition from McLaren ?
7) Reliability issues ?
Could past and present owners comment please ?
8) Current World Economy ?
Brexit ?
Greta ?
Genuinely interested in your thoughts regarding what the PH Adverts section would suggest as gross oversupply of Aventadors
Edited by carspath on Friday 6th December 05:54
Edited by carspath on Friday 6th December 05:59
AmosMoses .. I agree with every point in your post
sandysinlair ... again , I totally agree that speculators and PCP have totally distorted the market ( but surely for all Supercars and not just the Aventador ) ....sadly making it more difficult for genuinely keen potential owners to get a foothold .
But why is the Aventador so much more exposed than the competition ( or is it that the PH adverts section is giving us the wrong impression ? )
DanPhoto and WCZ.... True that the Aventador has been almost a decade in existence , and that it has great presence , but the fact that it is being advertised for sale in such huge numbers (117 ) suggests that it is either hugely overpriced or undesirable . Or is there another explanation ?
I cannot recall the Countach (1998 units ) or the Diablo (? How many ) or the Murcielago ( 4099 units ) ever being available in the UK in such large numbers despite being in production for approximately 16 , 11 and 10 years respectively .
The Aventadors current availability on the second hand market is not explained by Lamborghini’s past sales history , nor do its contemporary rivals appear to be available in such large numbers !
sandysinlair ... again , I totally agree that speculators and PCP have totally distorted the market ( but surely for all Supercars and not just the Aventador ) ....sadly making it more difficult for genuinely keen potential owners to get a foothold .
But why is the Aventador so much more exposed than the competition ( or is it that the PH adverts section is giving us the wrong impression ? )
DanPhoto and WCZ.... True that the Aventador has been almost a decade in existence , and that it has great presence , but the fact that it is being advertised for sale in such huge numbers (117 ) suggests that it is either hugely overpriced or undesirable . Or is there another explanation ?
I cannot recall the Countach (1998 units ) or the Diablo (? How many ) or the Murcielago ( 4099 units ) ever being available in the UK in such large numbers despite being in production for approximately 16 , 11 and 10 years respectively .
The Aventadors current availability on the second hand market is not explained by Lamborghini’s past sales history , nor do its contemporary rivals appear to be available in such large numbers !
Craigjm ... true PH could be leaving adverts on after the car is sold , but you would have thought that this would apply equally across the board for all comparable Supercars
Dazmanultra and topjay .... you are certainly correct that the Aventador is wide and unwieldy in traffic .
Particularly in 2019 cf previously.
I can remember driving its great grandfather , a month after getting it in 2001 , down to the French-Spanish Pyrenees border , and there was so much less traffic to contend with , and no speed cameras to worry about ..... important as the car only wakes up past 3 figures .
Driving in France today is a slow , monitored , event .
Ditto Spain .
It must also have been an unusual sight .... we booked the first night at a rural farmhouse , and arrived late and in the dark . As we were leaving early the next morning , the owner ran all the way down the long driveway taking photos of the car , as it slowly trundled away .
Having said which , on a 3 1/2 week driving trip to and around Italy this year , I didn’t see a single Aventador , and only one Huracan ( excluding , at the Sant ‘ Agata factory )
Dazmanultra and topjay .... you are certainly correct that the Aventador is wide and unwieldy in traffic .
Particularly in 2019 cf previously.
I can remember driving its great grandfather , a month after getting it in 2001 , down to the French-Spanish Pyrenees border , and there was so much less traffic to contend with , and no speed cameras to worry about ..... important as the car only wakes up past 3 figures .
Driving in France today is a slow , monitored , event .
Ditto Spain .
It must also have been an unusual sight .... we booked the first night at a rural farmhouse , and arrived late and in the dark . As we were leaving early the next morning , the owner ran all the way down the long driveway taking photos of the car , as it slowly trundled away .
Having said which , on a 3 1/2 week driving trip to and around Italy this year , I didn’t see a single Aventador , and only one Huracan ( excluding , at the Sant ‘ Agata factory )
SVJ BALBONI ....... it would be great if you could give us your first hand owner experience of :
1) maintenance costs
2) reliability issues
FOR
A) Your SVJ
B) The other Aventador variants that you presumably would have looked at prior to committing to the most expensive variant
Also to take on a completely different , but related topic :
Are these ‘’ ULTIMATE ‘’ versions of the same model actually worth the grossly inflated prices that the command compared to the base versions ?
OR are we being taken for a very , very ,long ride by the Manufacturer’s PR Dept , and by the Motoring Press , whose journalists have to earn their daily crust on a regular and continuous basis ?
Is the Countach QV really that much better ?
Is the Murcie SV really that much better than the base version that the Motoring press raved about on its release in 2001 ?
Ditto the Diablo and the Aventador
Because , if you look at the underlying mechanics of these variants , they are pretty much the same with relatively minor tweaks .
Do you really think that a 80 Kg difference makes any difference in a ROAD CAR , which itself weighs about 1600-1800 Kg ?
(You can get yourself a very nice genuinely lightweight track car for £15 K )
The base cars will do 95% of what the ultimate cars will do for a fraction of the price ( bragging rights excepted ) .... the mechanical specification dictates that this is the case
I think that we are being taken for fools ( PR and Press ) with these variants !!
On reflection , this second point probably deserves a thread of its own
1) maintenance costs
2) reliability issues
FOR
A) Your SVJ
B) The other Aventador variants that you presumably would have looked at prior to committing to the most expensive variant
Also to take on a completely different , but related topic :
Are these ‘’ ULTIMATE ‘’ versions of the same model actually worth the grossly inflated prices that the command compared to the base versions ?
OR are we being taken for a very , very ,long ride by the Manufacturer’s PR Dept , and by the Motoring Press , whose journalists have to earn their daily crust on a regular and continuous basis ?
Is the Countach QV really that much better ?
Is the Murcie SV really that much better than the base version that the Motoring press raved about on its release in 2001 ?
Ditto the Diablo and the Aventador
Because , if you look at the underlying mechanics of these variants , they are pretty much the same with relatively minor tweaks .
Do you really think that a 80 Kg difference makes any difference in a ROAD CAR , which itself weighs about 1600-1800 Kg ?
(You can get yourself a very nice genuinely lightweight track car for £15 K )
The base cars will do 95% of what the ultimate cars will do for a fraction of the price ( bragging rights excepted ) .... the mechanical specification dictates that this is the case
I think that we are being taken for fools ( PR and Press ) with these variants !!
On reflection , this second point probably deserves a thread of its own
Edited by carspath on Wednesday 11th December 06:30
cgt2 - 2 things that I really like about the Aventador's appearance are its central console (unequalled beauty ) , and those ginormous side vents ( drama ++ --- the KTM X-BOW has very very similar vents )
Juno - totally agree with you re the costs of the specials -- hence starting the PH thread titled '' Supercars.. Base vs Ultimate variants .... Really ? ''
And the base Aventadors are another 100k cheaper .
Juno - totally agree with you re the costs of the specials -- hence starting the PH thread titled '' Supercars.. Base vs Ultimate variants .... Really ? ''
And the base Aventadors are another 100k cheaper .
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