What is "Raw"?

[anonymous-user]

"Raw" has been mentioned a few times in various posts and topics when comparing Macs with other marques. Sometimes used in a way to describe Macs as boring / unengaging, but conversely, as being refined / technologically advanced. What is raw? Is it subjective? Is it a good thing, or a bad thing? It's such a broad term, I’m not sure it helps.

I've had a Jaguar XKR-S in the past, which I would say was very fast, fun to drive and sounded filthy, but also unforgiving and ready to stick you in a hedge at the first sign of dampness. For me, that car was raw – seat of your pants – sphincter exercising - dangerous.

[anonymous-user]

Ex Boy Racer said:

Sex Pistols - raw. Genesis - not.

Thats funny.

I was an SP guy myself. Can't stand PC's whiny voice. But looking back on it, the SP's were pretty crap as musicians - it was all about swimming against the political tide. PC is still going.

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RBT0 said:

+1

LTs are the rawest (english?) McLarens.

Edited by RBT0 on Sunday 25th August 13:32

"roarest", thats for sure.

[anonymous-user]

RBT0 said:

Rawest is correct :P

It was a play on words, as in roar of the exhaust on the LT's.

[anonymous-user]

So, depending on the application, raw could be a good or bad thing. Having covered over 9K miles in 4 months in my 720S, raw would be a bad thing for me. Raw would be exciting, but also very tiresome. That's not to say the 720S is an unexciting car to drive, definitely not, but it's more suitable for my application as a GT'ish comfortable road warrior, than a seat of your pants sensory experience. My other car is a RR, which is sat in the garage covered in dust and cobwebs – the 720S is my first choice, even for long journeys. Having said that, there’s always the option to turn the knobs from comfort to track, which introduces enough 24/7 rawness for the masochists (I use the description “GT’ish” very loosely).

With exception of the F1, P1 and Senna, it seems to me that McLaren doesn't really have a mission to make raw cars for the masses. I think I need to take a 600LT for a drive to see what all the fuss is about.

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 29th August 00:02

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WCZ said:

it's not actually that raw is it? on the recent back to back autocar test iirc it was mentioned that the p1 feels much rawer

That was some test tho wasn't it. Jammy sod! For those that missed it > https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=haVCT...

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andrew said:

it's halley's comet, you ignoramus !

If you want to nitpick, it's Halley's Comet, you ignoranus

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andrew said:

MAC 720S said:

andrew said:

it's halley's comet, you ignoramus !

If you want to nitpick, it's Halley's Comet, you ignoranus

a bit spicey coming from a moderator wannabe

Just a little bit of spice. It's so easy with some of the trolls / baiters.