Discussion
No excuse for covering this topic again but in light of the recent McLaren PCP deals thought it was time to review.
PCP does seem a good way to getting into a Mac but I personally prefer to pay cash. So :
There are a quite a lot of 600LT’s and 720S,S available and for different reasons I am unable to decide which I prefer.
Owned a 570s which I tracked regularly and would want to again, although also have a Lotus for this purpose.
In that respect a 600LT, although perhaps against the clock not as quick as a 720S, would probably be more fun to track but reverse on the road. Tried both on road and preferred 720S.
One issue is both have CCB,s with a set of pads close to £2,000 and the Rotors are the price of a new Hatchback !!!. 600 LT at 75kg lighter should wear a little bit less and overall cheaper to run. I’m aiming to do 6,000 pa and keep 2 years or so.
I prefer the looks of the 600LT, but this is subjective and 2018/19 model 720S aren’t greatly more expensive.
Depreciation on both models is probably going to be similar at £15,000 or more per annum, so PCP has its attraction.
Not a 3rd World Problem but still a dilemma !!
PCP does seem a good way to getting into a Mac but I personally prefer to pay cash. So :
There are a quite a lot of 600LT’s and 720S,S available and for different reasons I am unable to decide which I prefer.
Owned a 570s which I tracked regularly and would want to again, although also have a Lotus for this purpose.
In that respect a 600LT, although perhaps against the clock not as quick as a 720S, would probably be more fun to track but reverse on the road. Tried both on road and preferred 720S.
One issue is both have CCB,s with a set of pads close to £2,000 and the Rotors are the price of a new Hatchback !!!. 600 LT at 75kg lighter should wear a little bit less and overall cheaper to run. I’m aiming to do 6,000 pa and keep 2 years or so.
I prefer the looks of the 600LT, but this is subjective and 2018/19 model 720S aren’t greatly more expensive.
Depreciation on both models is probably going to be similar at £15,000 or more per annum, so PCP has its attraction.
Not a 3rd World Problem but still a dilemma !!
[quote=Bispal]Just get a 675LT, its a lot closer to the bottom of its depreciation curve and a lot rarer. Much better proposition with cash. Almost the entire car is CF, 60% of the car parts are bespoke to the 675 as are 50% of the engine components. It gives the feeling of a real road racer. Dynamically its razor sharp and the quicker you go the better it gets. Under 100 coupes & spiders in the UK.
I just had the same dilemma and discounted the 600LT as it doesn't have the active aero / suspension, does not have many bespoke parts and is unlimited production. Plus (in my eyes and I know this is subjective) its not as attractive as the 675. That's not to say I wouldn't have one. If the 675 didn't exist it would be my choice. The 720 while being ballistically quick & comfy & an awesome machine is the standard production car in much the same way the 12C & 650S were and doesn't have the appeal, to me, that a ltd production 'special' car did. Plus 675 has a huge analogue rev counter, that's the icing on the cake.
Being a fellow 430 CUP owner I know you appreciate cars that are designed to be the pinnacle of the range and are rare & unique. Combine this with a cash purchase and I think a 675LT is where you should be looking. I am very pleased with mine it has the engagement & connection that the 430CUP gives me that is missing in all other paddle shift cars I have driven.
Good luck with the search.
Cheers,
Been sorely tempted with a 675LT as it incorporates all the best bits of a 720s but more track focused.
Did have a good look at the Napier Green one at McBrum but would prefer a newer car really
I just had the same dilemma and discounted the 600LT as it doesn't have the active aero / suspension, does not have many bespoke parts and is unlimited production. Plus (in my eyes and I know this is subjective) its not as attractive as the 675. That's not to say I wouldn't have one. If the 675 didn't exist it would be my choice. The 720 while being ballistically quick & comfy & an awesome machine is the standard production car in much the same way the 12C & 650S were and doesn't have the appeal, to me, that a ltd production 'special' car did. Plus 675 has a huge analogue rev counter, that's the icing on the cake.
Being a fellow 430 CUP owner I know you appreciate cars that are designed to be the pinnacle of the range and are rare & unique. Combine this with a cash purchase and I think a 675LT is where you should be looking. I am very pleased with mine it has the engagement & connection that the 430CUP gives me that is missing in all other paddle shift cars I have driven.
Good luck with the search.
Cheers,
Been sorely tempted with a 675LT as it incorporates all the best bits of a 720s but more track focused.
Did have a good look at the Napier Green one at McBrum but would prefer a newer car really
JiggyJaggy said:
Genuinely having the same dilemma myself. Loads of people seem to say the 600Lt is more suited to a track based driver and speed/track enthusiast, whereas the 720s is more for everyday use and comfort?
Difficult one as they are similar price point (pre-owned) and both look so damn good!
I think the 600LT may be more fun on track and perhaps more forgiving on the brake wear because it is that bit lighter and the 720s will be going so much faster on the straights . Certainly on road the 720s’s trick suspension has the edge Difficult one as they are similar price point (pre-owned) and both look so damn good!
They are at similar price points used but the looks of the 600LT are imo better , a good dilemma to choose from though !!
RSbandit said:
Wow that was aggressively priced makes all the 2017 cars with higher miles look expensive even at 150-160k
If you believe the chatter , there are quite a few more 720S’s which will be released virtually new at similar prices in the next 2 months, along with plenty of lease vehicles hitting the market.May be wise to wait a few weeks to see !!
430SD_LP640 said:
This chart from 600LT sales manual basically explains key difference vs 675LT. 600LT wins in chassis engagement and lap time. I would also add that turbo lag has improved significantly in 600LT vs 675LT. it took me a while to get used to 600LT behaviour around corners thanks to the precise steering and sharp chassis. The steering is accurate at any speed with or without braking. if driving on tracks is the main purpose, then 600LT is no brainer. The biggest problem of 600LT imho is the engine. it feels very pushy in low rpm (not a bad thing) but it feels exhausted above 6000 rpm. On tracks with no/few sharp corners, it will lose out to 675LT, for example Bedford Autodrome, Donington Park etc. The other problem is not necessarily 600LT's fault but it takes ages to warm up Trofeo. Once they are properly baked, then they work like glue. i am trying to order a set of 620R's full slicks for my 600LT. (Mclalren's internal sales manual quotes 8% performance improvement from Slick vs Trofeo R.)
Well Getting back on track !!!
The Winter Blues are still hitting the Supercar market and McLaren are no different with prices down
So with the launch of the 765LT will we see more 720s hitting the market? , currently over 50 advertised and no doubt more for sale which may not be listed on PistonHeads or Autotrader.
Also a lot of 600LT’s and with the recent PCP deals, used values have softened once again.
Who knows whether we have hit the bottom of the ludicrous depreciation curve but at current price points both seem a lot of car for the money but 720S looks favourite.
The Winter Blues are still hitting the Supercar market and McLaren are no different with prices down
So with the launch of the 765LT will we see more 720s hitting the market? , currently over 50 advertised and no doubt more for sale which may not be listed on PistonHeads or Autotrader.
Also a lot of 600LT’s and with the recent PCP deals, used values have softened once again.
Who knows whether we have hit the bottom of the ludicrous depreciation curve but at current price points both seem a lot of car for the money but 720S looks favourite.
Gibbo205 said:
Might be remembering it wrong, cars advertised on AT from 139k now and advertised price is always potentially negotiable, the prices are dropping.
I think you are remembering a lot wrong !McLaren Manchester have a Memphis Red 720s up for £159,000 on AT and on their website so not sure where you are getting you information from but clearly wrong,
Gibbo205 said:
Driven both, 720S is faster, 600 LT more engaging.
My money went on the 600 LT Spider, just for a far more engaging and more fun car.
Plus its an LT so will be the one in years that is the wanted one along with 675LT and 765LT.
The 600LT is a lighter car with steering/handling that has been designed to provide a bit more fun.My money went on the 600 LT Spider, just for a far more engaging and more fun car.
Plus its an LT so will be the one in years that is the wanted one along with 675LT and 765LT.
However the 600LT Spider is no lighter than a Track Pack 720s Coupe which is a much faster more advanced car.
It’s why McLaren make different cars to suit different folks.
While I still do like, my old 600LT the 720s I have now does everything and more on road.
At the limit on track it is perhaps not so engaging but you are travelling quicker.
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