McLaren 765LT

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I finally got to spend some time with the McLaren 765LT last Friday. There is a lot about the design that I like but a few things not so much. Did just post a blog outlining my impressions. Build numbers are a bit of a concern and I do wonder if a 785 R is in the pipeline.

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caminator11 said:

Mclaren aren't fussed about residuals. Its about latest/greatest and shifting volume. If you want the newest and best car you can actually buy one (unlike some marques) but you will lose out when you come to sell it.

Not sure I would agree with you. Per discussions I have had with them recently, McLaren is certainly aware of the residual issue and quite concerned with it as it will impact volumes longer term. Not sure they have a solution for it but they certainly now it is a major issue for the majority of buyers.

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luigisayshello said:

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Not sure I would agree with you. Per discussions I have had with them recently, McLaren is certainly aware of the residual issue and quite concerned with it as it will impact volumes longer term. Not sure they have a solution for it but they certainly now it is a major issue for the majority of buyers.

Mclaren can't help residuals without more and better dealers in more countries. Right now Mclaren is dependent on UK,US (main cities) and the European Central Block, so the cars are being mostly dumped here in these 2 conglomerates because these are quite literally the only places where there are conditions to own one (support wise).
You lived in Portugal, small country, not too rich, but plenty of understated exotic car owners and clients, we have/had around 40 Maccas, 0 support or specialists, imported for pure passion, that have to be sent to BARCELONA, not even bloody Madrid, or England for service, if you only had 400k to spend on a car and lived here would you get a Macca or a Ferrari with the great Lisbon Ferrari Dealer? Or a Porsche where you can service it anywhere? These cars after being brought here won't leave because the taxes paid will just make them too expensive to export anywhere.
Like us there are dozens of medium small markets that just by being supported will absorb a lot of the excess from the main countries.
And if Mclaren figures out how to make the next platform more solid in terms of build quality (better plastics would be a great starting point) and have less annoying issues the residuals will improve as will the reputation.
The last iteration of the 720s and the constant improvement of the parts that have been failing to me are a great signal that Mclaren is caring about making their cars better. There are problems that they could just drag out of warranty just by changing the bits for new bafly designed ones, but they are iterating and trying to improve.

Another part if they don't want to expand at this time, is to just be a bit less of a pain in the arse like they where in getting tools, diagnostics, manuals, for mclarens, for a while it seemed they were guarding nuclear bomb designs and codes, any guy trying to venture into Mclaren maintenance would just be minimized and ignored regardless of economic prowness, interest or talent.
If parts and tools are a bit more available they can get more support, still make money and again, drain the mass produced cars from the main markets into the smaller markets that will be more available to soak it as the service support is there.

Im really surprised that there isn't a McLaren dealer in Lisbon. Think it is a missed opportunity for them. Portugal's got a great supercar community that should easily be able to justify and support a dealership. In fact McLaren has done a number of launch events in Portugal.

I take it the Lisbon Ferrari dealer hasn't gotten any better........

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LotusJas said:

None of us can do that. But then, I didn't used to try power-sliding my Elise or Exige either (other than on an airfield, and mostly failing).

Treat it with respect and it will thrill. Abuse it, and it will throw you into a ditch. Just as you would expect.

Other than an airfield, I cant think of another area I would try and power slide anything with this much power.

Very well said on treating it with respect.

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Algarve said:

Why would you think there's a great supercar community in Portugal? Its near non existent.

McLaren has done a bunch of launch events in Portugal for a few reasons, none of them to do with locals buying them

Its a brilliant place to test cars on the road - near immunity from the police, lovely roads if you know where to look and perhaps most importantly its a great place to take journalists on that all expenses trip. Then see if they turn in a positive review and get to come on the next trip or not....

Cars are ridiculously priced here. Theres only 14 Lamborghinis in total on our Autotrader:

https://www.standvirtual.com/carros/lamborghini/?s...

Combine that with average wages and the result is predictable... to say we have a great supercar community here is laughable really. It sounds like you maybe came here on holiday in summer and seen 4 or 5 Aventadors in Vilamoura marina or cascais in September, its not like that at all outside of 1 or 2 streets in tourist times.


What sort of supercar community can you expect when a 1 year old high mileage Huracan costs 325k euros - https://www.standvirtual.com/carros/lamborghini/?s... yet wages are a fraction of UK levels. My vet here earns less than my little brother earns working delivering furniture in UK...


Sorry but as much as I'd love you to be right, you're just not

My experience in Portugal was quite different. I lived just outside of Lisbon for several years and knew quite a few other supercar owners. We used to get together on a regular basis and go out for drives. I do agree that supercars prices in Portugal are exceedingly high. As a result a lot of the cars used to be on foreign plates (mainly Spanish).