Anyone have an outlook for old Sports Series range?
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Looking at getting a 570s anytime from Sept - Dec - I am in no rush
How do people see the market holding up for used cars specifically the sports series type range
My perception is - clearly the used car market is softening a bit right now...with winter period coming...new yearly reg plates (this is a factor?)..and then the doom mongering particularly in the UK economy = Im hoping to pick up a nice bargain
How do people see the market holding up for used cars specifically the sports series type range
My perception is - clearly the used car market is softening a bit right now...with winter period coming...new yearly reg plates (this is a factor?)..and then the doom mongering particularly in the UK economy = Im hoping to pick up a nice bargain
samoht said:
McLaren New Forest have just cut this volcano yellow 570S from £105k to £95k.
Talking to them, they've 're-priced' a lot of their stock, McLaren and Bentley, to get it competitive with the market, this being just one example. They also said that their current finance rates are valid until the end of the month, and after that they'll be going up three percentage points.
So... if you're looking to finance, now might be a good time to buy; conversely as the interest rate rises feed through it may lead to lower demand and prices over the winter, if you're paying cash.
(I was going to go and look at the above car, it looks fab in the pics/video, however I've just found out I can't get my garage door widened until January, so have to hold fire for now. Damn.)
sounds great as Ill be a cash buyer..looks like there could be some real actual bargaining on the cards - few £'k maybe? + winter. Im still ever hopeful of securing a 570s hopefully late/early this yearTalking to them, they've 're-priced' a lot of their stock, McLaren and Bentley, to get it competitive with the market, this being just one example. They also said that their current finance rates are valid until the end of the month, and after that they'll be going up three percentage points.
So... if you're looking to finance, now might be a good time to buy; conversely as the interest rate rises feed through it may lead to lower demand and prices over the winter, if you're paying cash.
(I was going to go and look at the above car, it looks fab in the pics/video, however I've just found out I can't get my garage door widened until January, so have to hold fire for now. Damn.)
interesting that the rate rises not yet actually fed through
RSbandit said:
The first 570S on the list was mine which I sold this week…a bit less than what I wanted and definitely under my ask but we are talking a few K’s here so no biggie. It had FSH and balance of MCL warranty without which it seems it would have been v hard to move on . I had quite alot of interest in the car but defo no interest at the ask for what it’s worth. I’ve been following the 600LT mkt closer and the white Apex car at £142k and the black one at £137k both started £10-12k higher 2-3 months ago so. There are quite a few 720S Coupes and 600LT Spiders hanging around the 150-155k level now but not shifting. I think really well specced cars at sensible prices are moving but a lot of the main dealer prices are pure fantasy out of the gate. Unless they get lucky with the right buyer at the exact right time whos after a particular colour regardless of overall spec alot of stock is hanging around.
interesting to hear that. so the final sale ended up being lower then that listed priced of £79k?how did you find the buyers in the market, was it a lot of lowball bids ? not serious people or?
samoht said:
Sports Series weekly market update since Sat 19th:
14 cars sold and 20 new listings on AT, so still more cars coming to market than taken off although 3:2 rather than 3:1 last week. As above, two of the 'new' listings are private sales that were previously listed (presumably SOR) at dealers; one sold car was previously 'sold' so presumably re-listed.
Of the six 570S coupes sold, four are in the £90-93k bracket. One of the two £100k+ cars is the Vega Blue 2019 mode that Streetbeat picked out last week, so obviously he's in tune with the market. I can't explain why the 14k mile 2017 model at Brookspeed was worth £105k to someone, unless they really like the factory aero parts it had.
Two Spiders sold at £105k, almost the cheapest available, plus a 2020 car at £115k (Dick Lovett). 600LTs again two towards the lower end of the price range.
Two 570GTs sold, both later ceramic-braked cars listed over £100k. And apparently someone paid £100k for a white 2019 540C.
Price reductions across the board; biggest drop is £10k off the blue Spider at George Kingsley, but was well overpriced at £135k previously. I do think the 570 Spider market has slid down a touch, unsurprisingly.
My car of the week is an example of this, a nicely specced 2017 Spider reduced to £105k on 20k miles (click for ad):
Another interesting car: a 540C on 55,000 miles - seems v poor value to me, like most 540Cs, but proof these cars can take miles.
Overall I'd say sellers seem to outnumber buyers, so if you want to sell then your car needs to represent good value relative to the rest of the market, and the trend seems likely gradually downwards as we head into the Christmas period.
(Expand for Sold, New and Reduced listings)
Sold Cars (14) (assumed sold as ad pulled from AT)
570S for £89,850 2016 on 16,134 miles at McLaren Birmingham pic
570S for £89,950 2016 on 17,500 miles at Tom Hartley pic
570S for £91,995 2016 on 19,650 miles at Anthony James Cars Ltd pic
570S for £92,990 2017 on - miles at SCUDERIA PRESTIGE AUTOMOBILE LTD pic
570S for £104,950 2017 on 14,484 miles at Brookspeed pic
570S for £109,990 2019 on 9,989 miles at McLaren Glasgow pic
570S Spider for £104,949 2018 on 11,900 miles at Private seller pic
570S Spider for £104,950 2018 on 7,000 miles at Dap Cars Ltd pic
570S Spider for £114,990 2020 on 8,897 miles at Dick Lovett Specialist Cars pic
570GT for £107,995 2019 on 11,500 miles at Polo Prestige pic
570GT for £109,900 2018 on 7,990 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield pic
600LT for £131,950 2018 on 11,750 miles at ALASTAIR BOLS LIMITED pic
600LT for £142,990 2018 on 9,342 miles at McLaren Glasgow pic
540C for £99,990 2019 on 6,000 miles at Autocentre (U.K.) Limited pic
New Listings (20)
570S for £89,000 2017 on 16,700 miles at Mclaren Manchester ad
570S for £89,950 2016 on 14,400 miles at McLaren New Forest ad
570S for £94,995 2019 on 19,000 miles at Private seller ad
570S for £97,900 2018 on 5,424 miles at Gve London Ltd ad
570S for £102,850 2018 on 8,671 miles at McLaren Birmingham ad
570S for £104,900 2018 on 12,645 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield ad
570S for £127,950 2020 on 2,840 miles at Hendy Performance Poole ad
570S Spider for £107,995 2018 on 12,000 miles at LEE GAME PRESTIGE LTD ad
570S Spider for £110,000 2018 on 17,000 miles at Private seller ad
570S Spider for £112,900 2017 on 9,870 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield ad
570S Spider for £116,950 2018 on 9,852 miles at Mclaren Ascot ad
570S Spider for £118,000 2019 on 7,300 miles at Private seller ad
570GT for £85,000 2017 on 16,000 miles at Private seller ad
570GT for £86,500 2016 on 18,000 miles at Private seller ad
570GT for £99,995 2017 on 3,500 miles at DMB Collection ad
570GT for £112,990 2019 on 14,863 miles at McLaren Leeds ad
600LT for £139,990 2018 on 9,412 miles at McLaren Glasgow ad
600LT for £142,990 2019 on 303 miles at McLaren Glasgow ad
540C for £82,995 2018 on 33,600 miles at Ellis Ashton Motor Company ad
540C for £94,850 2018 on 19,000 miles at 442 Sports Cars ad
Price Reductions (18)
570S reduced from £83,500 to £81,995 2015 on 16,500 miles at Private seller ad
570S reduced from £83,495 to £82,495 2018 on 27,000 miles at Veloce Auto ad
570S reduced from £91,995 to £89,995 2017 on 13,000 miles at Kaim Park Garage ad
570S reduced from £109,995 to £106,995 2019 on 5,000 miles at A-Group ad
570S Spider reduced from £106,990 to £104,940 2018 on 20,000 miles at Steel City Sports And Prestige ad
570S Spider reduced from £109,990 to £107,990 2019 on 26,351 miles at McLaren Glasgow ad
570S Spider reduced from £112,999 to £109,999 2018 on 12,300 miles at Phoenix RC Limited ad
570S Spider reduced from £122,950 to £121,950 2020 on 10,562 miles at Mclaren London ad
570S Spider reduced from £134,996 to £124,996 2018 on 11,557 miles at George Kingsley Prestige & Performance ad
570GT reduced from £82,495 to £81,995 2017 on 27,000 miles at Veloce Auto ad
570GT reduced from £92,950 to £89,950 2017 on 10,250 miles at McLaren New Forest ad
570GT reduced from £94,995 to £92,995 2017 on 10,300 miles at Romans Of St Albans ad
570GT reduced from £97,650 to £96,750 2019 on 31,000 miles at FTC Prestige & Performance Cars ad
570GT reduced from £112,990 to £109,990 2020 on 14,066 miles at McLaren Glasgow ad
600LT reduced from £144,945 to £139,945 2019 on 11,000 miles at Pescara ad
600LT reduced from £144,950 to £139,950 2019 on 7,168 miles at Romans International ad
540C reduced from £87,995 to £84,995 2017 on 24,700 miles at Romans Of St Albans ad
540C reduced from £90,480 to £87,980 2017 on 14,000 miles at Auto100.Co.Uk ad
Not sure if I'll keep doing this, it can be time consuming trying to unwind re-listed cars etc and seems like mostly a re-statement of the obvious, good value cars sell, poor value ones don't
appreciate the updates, im sure others also. keep doing14 cars sold and 20 new listings on AT, so still more cars coming to market than taken off although 3:2 rather than 3:1 last week. As above, two of the 'new' listings are private sales that were previously listed (presumably SOR) at dealers; one sold car was previously 'sold' so presumably re-listed.
Of the six 570S coupes sold, four are in the £90-93k bracket. One of the two £100k+ cars is the Vega Blue 2019 mode that Streetbeat picked out last week, so obviously he's in tune with the market. I can't explain why the 14k mile 2017 model at Brookspeed was worth £105k to someone, unless they really like the factory aero parts it had.
Two Spiders sold at £105k, almost the cheapest available, plus a 2020 car at £115k (Dick Lovett). 600LTs again two towards the lower end of the price range.
Two 570GTs sold, both later ceramic-braked cars listed over £100k. And apparently someone paid £100k for a white 2019 540C.
Price reductions across the board; biggest drop is £10k off the blue Spider at George Kingsley, but was well overpriced at £135k previously. I do think the 570 Spider market has slid down a touch, unsurprisingly.
My car of the week is an example of this, a nicely specced 2017 Spider reduced to £105k on 20k miles (click for ad):
Another interesting car: a 540C on 55,000 miles - seems v poor value to me, like most 540Cs, but proof these cars can take miles.
Overall I'd say sellers seem to outnumber buyers, so if you want to sell then your car needs to represent good value relative to the rest of the market, and the trend seems likely gradually downwards as we head into the Christmas period.
(Expand for Sold, New and Reduced listings)
Sold Cars (14) (assumed sold as ad pulled from AT)
570S for £89,850 2016 on 16,134 miles at McLaren Birmingham pic
570S for £89,950 2016 on 17,500 miles at Tom Hartley pic
570S for £91,995 2016 on 19,650 miles at Anthony James Cars Ltd pic
570S for £92,990 2017 on - miles at SCUDERIA PRESTIGE AUTOMOBILE LTD pic
570S for £104,950 2017 on 14,484 miles at Brookspeed pic
570S for £109,990 2019 on 9,989 miles at McLaren Glasgow pic
570S Spider for £104,949 2018 on 11,900 miles at Private seller pic
570S Spider for £104,950 2018 on 7,000 miles at Dap Cars Ltd pic
570S Spider for £114,990 2020 on 8,897 miles at Dick Lovett Specialist Cars pic
570GT for £107,995 2019 on 11,500 miles at Polo Prestige pic
570GT for £109,900 2018 on 7,990 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield pic
600LT for £131,950 2018 on 11,750 miles at ALASTAIR BOLS LIMITED pic
600LT for £142,990 2018 on 9,342 miles at McLaren Glasgow pic
540C for £99,990 2019 on 6,000 miles at Autocentre (U.K.) Limited pic
New Listings (20)
570S for £89,000 2017 on 16,700 miles at Mclaren Manchester ad
570S for £89,950 2016 on 14,400 miles at McLaren New Forest ad
570S for £94,995 2019 on 19,000 miles at Private seller ad
570S for £97,900 2018 on 5,424 miles at Gve London Ltd ad
570S for £102,850 2018 on 8,671 miles at McLaren Birmingham ad
570S for £104,900 2018 on 12,645 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield ad
570S for £127,950 2020 on 2,840 miles at Hendy Performance Poole ad
570S Spider for £107,995 2018 on 12,000 miles at LEE GAME PRESTIGE LTD ad
570S Spider for £110,000 2018 on 17,000 miles at Private seller ad
570S Spider for £112,900 2017 on 9,870 miles at Grange Mclaren Hatfield ad
570S Spider for £116,950 2018 on 9,852 miles at Mclaren Ascot ad
570S Spider for £118,000 2019 on 7,300 miles at Private seller ad
570GT for £85,000 2017 on 16,000 miles at Private seller ad
570GT for £86,500 2016 on 18,000 miles at Private seller ad
570GT for £99,995 2017 on 3,500 miles at DMB Collection ad
570GT for £112,990 2019 on 14,863 miles at McLaren Leeds ad
600LT for £139,990 2018 on 9,412 miles at McLaren Glasgow ad
600LT for £142,990 2019 on 303 miles at McLaren Glasgow ad
540C for £82,995 2018 on 33,600 miles at Ellis Ashton Motor Company ad
540C for £94,850 2018 on 19,000 miles at 442 Sports Cars ad
Price Reductions (18)
570S reduced from £83,500 to £81,995 2015 on 16,500 miles at Private seller ad
570S reduced from £83,495 to £82,495 2018 on 27,000 miles at Veloce Auto ad
570S reduced from £91,995 to £89,995 2017 on 13,000 miles at Kaim Park Garage ad
570S reduced from £109,995 to £106,995 2019 on 5,000 miles at A-Group ad
570S Spider reduced from £106,990 to £104,940 2018 on 20,000 miles at Steel City Sports And Prestige ad
570S Spider reduced from £109,990 to £107,990 2019 on 26,351 miles at McLaren Glasgow ad
570S Spider reduced from £112,999 to £109,999 2018 on 12,300 miles at Phoenix RC Limited ad
570S Spider reduced from £122,950 to £121,950 2020 on 10,562 miles at Mclaren London ad
570S Spider reduced from £134,996 to £124,996 2018 on 11,557 miles at George Kingsley Prestige & Performance ad
570GT reduced from £82,495 to £81,995 2017 on 27,000 miles at Veloce Auto ad
570GT reduced from £92,950 to £89,950 2017 on 10,250 miles at McLaren New Forest ad
570GT reduced from £94,995 to £92,995 2017 on 10,300 miles at Romans Of St Albans ad
570GT reduced from £97,650 to £96,750 2019 on 31,000 miles at FTC Prestige & Performance Cars ad
570GT reduced from £112,990 to £109,990 2020 on 14,066 miles at McLaren Glasgow ad
600LT reduced from £144,945 to £139,945 2019 on 11,000 miles at Pescara ad
600LT reduced from £144,950 to £139,950 2019 on 7,168 miles at Romans International ad
540C reduced from £87,995 to £84,995 2017 on 24,700 miles at Romans Of St Albans ad
540C reduced from £90,480 to £87,980 2017 on 14,000 miles at Auto100.Co.Uk ad
Not sure if I'll keep doing this, it can be time consuming trying to unwind re-listed cars etc and seems like mostly a re-statement of the obvious, good value cars sell, poor value ones don't
RSbandit said:
Makes sense to keep the cars under warranty tbh…sold my 570s privately with balance of warranty think it would have been v tricky to do so otherwise. Of course going down the Thorney /V Engineering avenue is another option.
its tricky from what ive looked into as a buyer. I did speak with V engineering and I like them a LOT just from enquiring about setup (echoed what someone said before that the costs for them to fix major problems has come down rapidly..dont quote on the numbers but a high single digit instead of double digit for the worst type stuff). Also seems like a lot of long term owners just use them for everything nowit needs like a few more year/s for cars purely self warrantied and serviced with those guys to become the norm and then people feel comfortable I guess? that said those 2 names and a few others are often already quoted a lot on the forum here so people are aware
if you came to sell you have the choice I guess renew the warranty and lose that 3.5k amount vs independent service+selfwarranty/thorney and then perhaps have to price ~-3.5k under cars with the official warranty...
Edited by dng992 on Friday 30th December 23:26
Edited by dng992 on Friday 30th December 23:29
Skyway said:
Talking of colours, I've just managed to secure a high spec December 2020 Lime Green 600LT Spider from a main dealer today after putting a deposit down on it before they received it. I did have a deposit on a stunning Quartz 720S but swapped to the LT. Pictures will obviously follow once I receive it 
Just in case it may be of interest, there is a guy on one of the Facebook groups offering his 8,000 mile, Mantis Green 570S coupe for sale before its gets traded against another Mclaren this weekend.
whats the name of the fb group/what to search for?Just in case it may be of interest, there is a guy on one of the Facebook groups offering his 8,000 mile, Mantis Green 570S coupe for sale before its gets traded against another Mclaren this weekend.
Im the original thread poster and yesterday finally got my new to me 570s, 2017, coupe. Sealed the deal on this one in 1 week
Its been many months of research so I feel I've had the car for much longer - staring at autotrader, researching independent service options, countless hours on youtube
Even despite seeing so many colours/views/opinions online, seeing the car in the flesh was startling - and I get why people say its a whole different theatre and spectacle (sorry porsche), pictures just don't convey that completely
Ive signed up to Mclaren Owners club? awaiting approval, so hopefuully will be at some events. Anyone in London area or events nearby happy to connect.
Any tips for a new 570s owner? even stupid trivial things - I would honestly appreciate
I will be using the car multiple times a week (its my only car), aiming for 4k+ miles a year
Its been many months of research so I feel I've had the car for much longer - staring at autotrader, researching independent service options, countless hours on youtube
Even despite seeing so many colours/views/opinions online, seeing the car in the flesh was startling - and I get why people say its a whole different theatre and spectacle (sorry porsche), pictures just don't convey that completely
Ive signed up to Mclaren Owners club? awaiting approval, so hopefuully will be at some events. Anyone in London area or events nearby happy to connect.
Any tips for a new 570s owner? even stupid trivial things - I would honestly appreciate
I will be using the car multiple times a week (its my only car), aiming for 4k+ miles a year
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drcarrera said:
What he said! Although I leave mine permanently on the charger if not using the car for more than a few days and have had zero electrical problems over the two years I've had it.
It's easy to miss that you can activate lift simply by flicking the lever in default mode as described by Gray_Area. It's a common misconception that you need to "delve into the menus" to do it but that's only required if you've already gone into the menus for something else.
Yes I've begun playing around with the settings. The multiple options for things were a bit overwhelming the first day but getting used to it very quicklyIt's easy to miss that you can activate lift simply by flicking the lever in default mode as described by Gray_Area. It's a common misconception that you need to "delve into the menus" to do it but that's only required if you've already gone into the menus for something else.
Initial thoughts are:
Happy got manual seats - heard they sit lower then adjustable and no gremlins to go wrong. Ironically manual seats have an electronic up/down, and you have manual incline/recline and forward/back. More then adequate, especially for average height
Useful different ways of unlock/locking - what do people prefer? For entry: 1) Keyless clearly great..just go up to door press button and pull door up. 2) Otherwise Ive tried double tapping unlock and it unlocks the doors + unhinges so its a more elegant lighter push to open the car.
I do not get the purpose of single tapping the fob to unlock the car doors. Can someone explain this Third Option. Why would you unlock the doors but you would still have to then push the button under the door to open (Extra step in touching fob then just approaching door with key in pocket of #1)
For locking: 1) Keyless by tapping inside sensor. I've adjusted external lights to be off + silent lock on, so with keyless it just locks with mirrors folding but no other visual signals (flashing lights or daytime on) 2) Tapping lock (has all the flashing lights and daytime )
Mine has a Larini exhaust fitted. AFAIK just the gt1 exhaust and silencer/muffler removed. Its honestly great. It seemed incredibly loud first day given I was coming from Porsche, but aside from the cold start (which is deafening) it is manageable and pleasant (befitting supercar sound) without being obnoxious and obtrusive. This happened to be fitted already (I'm the 3rd owner only) and it has been like that for good 3+ years , serviced by Mclaren and commented on the good fit job. I wanted sports exhaust as a minimum but that was just my personal preference. From what I have seen online it seems Larini is on the louder sides of custom exhaust? or at least louder then official sports exhaust. I guess you can de cat it and do other more complex mods to the exhaust for even more loudness
I am surprised at the storage space. Massive shelf behind the seats, massive front boot. This along with many other things like servicing cost/ownership cost (Assuming everything runs good) I feel is another misnomer spread online about mcls. Is there a way however to fold the seats forward or do you have to just crank the manual lever to recline the seat?
How accurate is the battery health time of charge remaining? I guess better not to take risks, given nothing has gone with this cars battery in the 6y and nothing picked up in PPI, was advised by previous owner ~14 days no charge is ok but anymore try to plug in or top up.
Edited by dng992 on Sunday 25th June 11:20
drcarrera said:
What he said! Although I leave mine permanently on the charger if not using the car for more than a few days and have had zero electrical problems over the two years I've had it.
It's easy to miss that you can activate lift simply by flicking the lever in default mode as described by Gray_Area. It's a common misconception that you need to "delve into the menus" to do it but that's only required if you've already gone into the menus for something else.
Yes so even in home screen, stalk up once is lift? then stalk up then down is lower. Auto reverses lift once you get above 37mph+ rightIt's easy to miss that you can activate lift simply by flicking the lever in default mode as described by Gray_Area. It's a common misconception that you need to "delve into the menus" to do it but that's only required if you've already gone into the menus for something else.
I also found when going through road width restrictions to just twist the dial to close in the mirrors, given it does it so quickly. but im not surely if the wing mirrors open really add width? The length of the car is just perfect , still taking some time to get used to width but again its nothing extreme I feel? still very early days in my use of it
Grey_Area said:
Congrats, and in answer to your questions
I would, in no particular order:
Get it independantly inspected, I'm a V-Engineering fan.
Get PPF, at least on the front, as it can take a bit of a beating over time.
Keep the battery charged, I go for the one hour every 2-3 days approach using an automated home assistant system.
Watch the oil levels, and get used to how much it consumes, easy to overlook.
Don't use suncream if you've an alcantara steeering wheel, or make sure hands are dry before driving, can mat the fabric if not looked after.
If you think you might need lift, just flick the lever up, and dont procrastinate.....
Think about joining DU, great bunch of folks on there, and plenty of events to get to, many are actually free... Brands GT end the like.
And don't forget to enjoy it...
How active/good is DU vs Mclaren owners club? I guess joining both doesn't hurt I would, in no particular order:
Get it independantly inspected, I'm a V-Engineering fan.
Get PPF, at least on the front, as it can take a bit of a beating over time.
Keep the battery charged, I go for the one hour every 2-3 days approach using an automated home assistant system.
Watch the oil levels, and get used to how much it consumes, easy to overlook.
Don't use suncream if you've an alcantara steeering wheel, or make sure hands are dry before driving, can mat the fabric if not looked after.
If you think you might need lift, just flick the lever up, and dont procrastinate.....
Think about joining DU, great bunch of folks on there, and plenty of events to get to, many are actually free... Brands GT end the like.
And don't forget to enjoy it...
Newb question - but aside from waiting to warm the car up (Temps and water 80+?) before driving hard, do you guys wait idle until the rev counter drops to nearer 1k rpm? or is that more folklore and just driving immediately slowly away of course is fine?
Also driving off away from the car is parked, the electronic parking is displayed on. You can just drive away without physically turning electronic parking off safely right?
Also driving off away from the car is parked, the electronic parking is displayed on. You can just drive away without physically turning electronic parking off safely right?
Some other newb questions:
do people leave stop/start function on - is it more mpg efficient with it on? but then the engine has to turn off and restart so that would be less? what is the actual purpose of having it haha given I know so many dislike it
what are peoples preferred setup for handling/powertrain? So far I've just played around with comfort and sport on each one...
do people leave stop/start function on - is it more mpg efficient with it on? but then the engine has to turn off and restart so that would be less? what is the actual purpose of having it haha given I know so many dislike it
what are peoples preferred setup for handling/powertrain? So far I've just played around with comfort and sport on each one...
Good to hear. I will experiment more
With IRIS connecting via bluetooth to phone, and playing spotify. Im finding myself having to use the car touchscreen to navigate to media and then my connected phone to start the song (Rather then just press play on my phone spotify and it playing in the car) - is this a connection issue/bug/quirk? my phone is connected to IRIS fine but I have to do that extra step to get music to start from spotify
With IRIS connecting via bluetooth to phone, and playing spotify. Im finding myself having to use the car touchscreen to navigate to media and then my connected phone to start the song (Rather then just press play on my phone spotify and it playing in the car) - is this a connection issue/bug/quirk? my phone is connected to IRIS fine but I have to do that extra step to get music to start from spotify
justin220 said:
Going back to the very start and talking about values, I really cant see much more room for the Sport Series (and 12C/650S) to drop much more.
I think they now at a point where they are excellent VFM given just how good the cars are.
Some interesting discussions recently with a couple of dealers on my 2017 540C (17k miles)..
Franchised dealer said they would likely market it for around £82-85k, and then offered me £60k to buy it.. No PX, straight sale.
Motorway 'valuation' of £75k and a genuine non-franchised bid of £73k.
A colleague who runs one of those raffle type companies, offered £75k.
The difficult part is, what else out there offers the same looks/performance/running cost/prestige etc for that sort of money.. Not a lot that I can see.
this is exactly why I jumped in now/also my existing car sold, as of ~2-3weeks ago.I think they now at a point where they are excellent VFM given just how good the cars are.
Some interesting discussions recently with a couple of dealers on my 2017 540C (17k miles)..
Franchised dealer said they would likely market it for around £82-85k, and then offered me £60k to buy it.. No PX, straight sale.
Motorway 'valuation' of £75k and a genuine non-franchised bid of £73k.
A colleague who runs one of those raffle type companies, offered £75k.
The difficult part is, what else out there offers the same looks/performance/running cost/prestige etc for that sort of money.. Not a lot that I can see.
yes it does look like given UK economy woes /rates that outlook is meh, but equally many thought the US market outlook was meh ...and many assets have NOT done what the herd think
As you say, from the outside and now the inside perspective. There is also imo no car out there that offers performance/ occasion/ looks for the sport series at prices right now....I'm struggling to see what is even that at 100-110k type budget.
I personally plan on keeping as of now, but the only thing that would take fancy is a 720s perhaps in the future...
Pflanzgarten said:
There’s a lively 570S private sale up in Aberdeen for £75k, full history and McWarranty.
Even he cashes out at somewhere above £70k you’ve got to imagine the most it’s worth as a part exchange is £65k.
What a chunk of car for the money.
Not a great seller FYI. I was looking at that before I bought mine 2mo+ ago.Even he cashes out at somewhere above £70k you’ve got to imagine the most it’s worth as a part exchange is £65k.
What a chunk of car for the money.
Sat for a number of months now, not only that cumulative amount of errors in the sellers information given and provided. E.g. apparently its got 'Bang Olufsen ' yet thought these cars have Bowers....listed at 30k miles yet he bought it at 30k miles, when pressed for exact mileage right now its a 'dont know', must have been around ~35ishk miles...+ number of other things
Normally not one to call this out, but I just dont know with some of these people in the world hahaha
Pflanzgarten said:
Really watching the market now, cash private purchaser so no need for dealer facilities, especially if a private sale come with McWarranty and is able to be inspected.
There’s no doubt that a 570s coupe represents amazing value at somewhere around the £70k mark.
However the versatility of a spider really appeals more despite the £20k jump in price to £90k+
It’s not exclusive to McLarens but private sales are asking if not the same, then more than dealerships. One came up yesterday on the Facebook group-lovely spec in MSO paint but it’s £15k more than the asking price of an officially prepared McLaren car of the same age and mileage/history.
I have a feeling that the previous few years of essentially “free” motoring is a hard thing for owners to shake.
What is a 2019 570S Spider CAP’ing at these days? I can’t imagine it’s any more than £85k.
I think a 70k good quality 570s is a bit of fiction imoThere’s no doubt that a 570s coupe represents amazing value at somewhere around the £70k mark.
However the versatility of a spider really appeals more despite the £20k jump in price to £90k+
It’s not exclusive to McLarens but private sales are asking if not the same, then more than dealerships. One came up yesterday on the Facebook group-lovely spec in MSO paint but it’s £15k more than the asking price of an officially prepared McLaren car of the same age and mileage/history.
I have a feeling that the previous few years of essentially “free” motoring is a hard thing for owners to shake.
What is a 2019 570S Spider CAP’ing at these days? I can’t imagine it’s any more than £85k.
All the ones sub 80k on AT rn are not the cleanest and have chequered history eg the lowest right now has simply not had a service because the owner said he hasn’t done many miles hahaha as well as it being very early gen…but each buyer to their own
Another one in that mix is a collecting cars sold one from jersey I believe that since being bought from auction has just sat with dealer for few years
Another the 83k was a swiss import from 16 but now being sold as a 18 Uk car….it’s all for a reason
Edited by dng992 on Monday 14th August 13:54
l0hn said:
macdeb said:
You get what you pay for, if it's cheap it's usually for a reason... ...
I could have saved myself a lot of hassle and dissapointment had I considered this old adage, and thought a bit more carefully why a 570s seemed like such good value before I purchased one last year.I purchased at the top end of the 570s spider market from an approved dealer thinking it would assure me a good quality car, unfortunately I couldn't have been more wrong. I owned it for just under a year and it was constantly going back on a flatbed, always something related to electrics / electronics that would render it undriveable. In the end I lost confidence in it, not wanting to drive it anywhere, I sold it back to dealer. Absolutely incredible to drive when it worked though it must be said.
Everyone I spoke to at the dealership was completely unsurprised by the constant faults, it felt very much like this is just the way it is.
They are just such a tempting prospect, even now I find myself looking at the 720s and thinking "maybe this one would be different".
JohnG123 said:
I have the corrosion issue again.
My car is a 2016 540C, I had both front wings replaced in around March 2021 due to corrosion.
I had both lower door panels replaced last year that unfortunately McLaren would not contribute to so had the work done at my expense through a McLaren dealer.
Now my Passenger side front wing is again showing corrosion… very frustrating …..
Even more so when McLaren keep showing pictures of these stunning multi fade colours they can now offer.
Might be better if Mclaren concentrate getting a one colour paint job that can last more than 3 years before it corrodes.
Apart from that my car as been nigh on perfect and now with 25,000 miles on.
Would love to upgrade to a 600 LT but the corrosion issue really is off putting.
How can this still be happening ?
Given its the same panel already done, that should be honoured under goodwill/fact its ~1y since getting replaced before? Is that what you are pushing for or have sorted?My car is a 2016 540C, I had both front wings replaced in around March 2021 due to corrosion.
I had both lower door panels replaced last year that unfortunately McLaren would not contribute to so had the work done at my expense through a McLaren dealer.
Now my Passenger side front wing is again showing corrosion… very frustrating …..
Even more so when McLaren keep showing pictures of these stunning multi fade colours they can now offer.
Might be better if Mclaren concentrate getting a one colour paint job that can last more than 3 years before it corrodes.
Apart from that my car as been nigh on perfect and now with 25,000 miles on.
Would love to upgrade to a 600 LT but the corrosion issue really is off putting.
How can this still be happening ?
Theres honestly not even be that much of a dip 'in general' for sports series. Good newer 570s are still there abouts. For sure there are some deals to be had off market/off autotrader and in car club groups where people want to get out
I bought 17 plate 16k miles 570s, and couldnt get anything for what I paid back in June. Ofc theres been more of a change vs tops of the market post covid.
When you have 911s still selling for 80k+ used, Macs at ~80k, even after the state we are in, are as safe as can be imo
I bought 17 plate 16k miles 570s, and couldnt get anything for what I paid back in June. Ofc theres been more of a change vs tops of the market post covid.
When you have 911s still selling for 80k+ used, Macs at ~80k, even after the state we are in, are as safe as can be imo
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