Tesla on fire: not good.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-4451120...

Looks like a battery has ruptured? Violent flames.

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Thesprucegoose said:

LandRoverManiac said:

kind of kill-switch fire suppression that isolates and floods the battery compartments with CO2 or some other inert gas?

Just theory crafting here.

Wouldn't do a lot, lithium fires are one of the hardest fires to suppress once on fire, preventing them is only real plan of attack.

Thinking back to schoolboy chemistry, doesn't Lithium combust when exposed to air? No need for a spark or anything else?

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I guess these fires will always attract publicity because the tech is so new, still its very clear that safety improvements need (and will) be made. Meantime, I'm put off from being an 'early adopter' if it means i'm effectively part of the safety testing...

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Max_Torque said:

Helicopter123 said:

still its very clear that safety improvements need (and will) be made.

is it? You say "it's clear that safety improvements still need to be made",


but EVs are less likely to catch on fire overall than ICE's so surely the safety improvements are required for the ICE vehicles?

So what? You can't have ANY car randomly catching fire.

When I see an EV car on fire because the battery has failed, then yes, I think it is obvious that a safety improvement needs to be made.

Unless of course, you think 'the odd one' catching fire is ok?

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Max_Torque said:

Helicopter123 said:

Unless of course, you think 'the odd one' catching fire is ok?

Why is it OK for an ICE power vehicle then and not for an EV?


Double standards, simply because of what you are used too.......


BTW, no car is ever 100% safe, 100% fire proof, 100% reliable, or 100% anything. What matters is the overall risk of any of those things occurring. Right now, you drive an ICE, and you must be happy with the current level of risk of a fire occurring, be that due to a fault, or as a result of a crash. And as i have said, statistics to date show a typical EV to be 6 to 8 times less likely to experience a thermal event (industry speak for "fire"). So, why do you keep saying "EV's are too dangerous" when they are less dangerous than what you currently drive??

Mate, which part of "You can't have ANY car randomly catching fire." are you having trouble understanding?

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Max_Torque said:

Helicopter, i see you drive a porsche Cayenne (nice car btw), guess what, they catch on fire "randomly"





oh dear oh dear, clearly "unacceptable" so i guess you're selling yours tomorrow yeah?


This is my point, NOTHING is 100% reliable. We accept a level of risk of any event, based on the probability of it occurring and the possible damage that might result if it were to occur. You Cayenne can catch fire, due to a fault, or an accident , but you have made a very sensible decision to drive it, as the risk you feel to yourself is not significant.

And, statistics show, EV's are, as i've said 3 or 4 times now, LESS likely to suffer a fire (due to either an accident or a fault) than an ICE powered vehicle.

So, if you drive your Cayenne, then there is no reason not to drive an EV.......

So petty...

But then I see you have an i3 - weren't they subject to a specific product recall due to fire hazard?

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Helicopter123 said:

Max_Torque said:

Helicopter, i see you drive a porsche Cayenne (nice car btw), guess what, they catch on fire "randomly"





oh dear oh dear, clearly "unacceptable" so i guess you're selling yours tomorrow yeah?


This is my point, NOTHING is 100% reliable. We accept a level of risk of any event, based on the probability of it occurring and the possible damage that might result if it were to occur. You Cayenne can catch fire, due to a fault, or an accident , but you have made a very sensible decision to drive it, as the risk you feel to yourself is not significant.

And, statistics show, EV's are, as i've said 3 or 4 times now, LESS likely to suffer a fire (due to either an accident or a fault) than an ICE powered vehicle.

So, if you drive your Cayenne, then there is no reason not to drive an EV.......

So petty...

But then I see you have an i3 - weren't they subject to a specific product recall due to fire hazard?

https://insideevs.com/bmw-i3-rex-recalled-for-fire-risk-thanks-to-its-gas-extender/

Here you go.

They really shouldn't be allowed to sell ANY car until it's safe.

Using the general public to do your safety testing is not acceptable, regardless of the power source.

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essayer said:

The official advice when a ZOE battery catches fire is to remove the rear bench and spray water into the traction battery vent that’s underneath.

Guess all EVs are similar..

Christ, it's such a common thing they have 'official advice' on it?