Self charging hybrids. Why?

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Elroy Blue

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Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Itchy feet and a second dog has got me looking for a new car. Currently in a very good diesel, but the extra space needed meant I thought I’d go with the times and look at a hybrid suv type thing. The Lexus NX300h was the obvious choice (I thought) as my commute is 12 miles each way.
I didn’t realise they can barely manage half a mile on electric only and all the reviews suggest you’re very lucky to manage 40mpg overall, even when driven gently. So what is the point of them. You don’t seem to gain any of the advantages of electric, but gain a whole load of weight.

A plug in is the obvious solution, but choice is very limited for the class of vehicle I’m looking at. All electric is out because I need to make motorway journeys every so often and I can’t be faffed with the range anxiety thing.

Elroy Blue

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Saturday 22nd December 2018
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I don’t like the Outlander as the interior feels a bit low rent. The Lexus seems to average about 35mpg, which is pretty pathetic when a diesel will do high 40s. I really wanted to go for it, but they just don’t seem to make economical sense

Elroy Blue

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Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Friends 2.2 diesel CRV get 40mpg daily and in high 40s on the motorway. The main disappointment for me was that you can't run the Lexus on the electric motor for any useful distance. It would've been the ideal vehicle if it was possible, particular as I quite like the styling.

Elroy Blue

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Saturday 22nd December 2018
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dmsims said:
Ahh the diesel Nigel wker argument

nothing like comparing the average MPG of the Lexus vs a Motorway mpg for a completely different car rolleyes
Why do all PH threads turn into this. I started this thread because I was disappointed to see that a Lexus NX hybrid couldn't do what I thought it could and offered average MPG. Someone then asked what diesel SUV can achieve high 40s and I answered.
I'm comparing two similar sized SUVs. One of which I thought would offer extra range because it's a hybrid. They both offer the same MPG around town and on the m/way, so it's perfectly valid to compare them.

Elroy Blue

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Sunday 23rd December 2018
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dmsims said:
Let's ignore the fact that the CR-V is lighter, less powerful and a lot slower

Running the CR-V is going to cost you about £50 more p.a. rofl
I didn't realise I had to do a full 'Whst Car' comparison. They are both a similar size and are suitable for a family of four and two dogs. (And on checking, there's only a couple of bhp between them)

Now back to topic. I do think they market the cars heavily on their EV aspect. It was only when I started researching the Lexus I discovered it had no realistic capability to run on Ev power alone. I'm not quite sure why they include an EV button to keep it running on battery alone, because it appears you'll get as far as the end of the street.
One you start looking into the differences, EV vehicles aren't confusing, but I do wonder how many people buy without doing their research

Elroy Blue

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Monday 24th December 2018
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With my p/x I’m looking at a budget of approx £30k. I got an offer through Carwow for a new nx300 sport for £32k (assuming without a px). Genuinely stumped at which way to jump. I really wanted to give EV a try and it’s a shame BMW never made the 330e in estate form. That would’ve been ideal (I really don’t like Mercedes)

Elroy Blue

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Monday 24th December 2018
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My commute is early in the morning or late at night so I don’t get stuck in much traffic. It’s mainly country lanes with around four miles into town. 70% of the trip is national speed limit. I think I’ll probably just switch to petrol and save the EV switch for the car after that one

Elroy Blue

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Monday 28th January 2019
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I'm not sure they actually have 'torque' due to the CVT gearbox. Don't they make lots of noise until the speed catches up with the revs

Elroy Blue

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Tuesday 29th January 2019
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What has the 2018 Lexus NX300 got. Gen 3 or 4

Elroy Blue

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I decided to try one and had a Lexus NH300h for the weekend. Drove like a nun, but only managed 37mpg. It was very refined around town, but accelerating onto a motorway slip road caused the cvt gearbox to scream it’s head off, with not a lot of progress.
I quite liked it overall, but not quite sure it’s the car for me