Audi e-Tron vs. Jaguar I-Pace
Discussion
Just curious as to whether anyone has driven/ordered/owned either of these? I must admit to being a bit of an EV sceptic and despite having a lot of respect for what Tesla has achieved in bringing EV somewhat mainstream, I have absolutely no "want" for one. I would say that these are the first two EVs that I could genuinely see myself driving. They seem like viable alternatives to the Q5/Q8 or E-Pace/F-pace both in terms of practicality and price and with a more established dealer infrastructure should have better customer support than Tesla. I don't mind the i3 either but it is a bit of an "oddball" and expensive for a car of its size. So, would you consider either of these vehicles and which one would/did you go for and why?
Jasper3.0 said:
So...
I am 200 or so miles into a lease (fleetprices one).
Why did I choose it? I was coming out of a PHEV lease and there was no obvious replacement in the CoCar scheme. We considered a Kona, but there were no real lease deals available, hence jumping on the ipace deal.
Car appears to be better screwed together than I thought it would be (first jag). Comparing it to the GTE I had before it is probably better put together. It is LOL fast at any speed. We have tried it on a number of chargers - Instavolt and Polar and it has charged fine. Not tried on EH yet, but will plan to avoid them. Planning first long journey next week, so we will see.
One thing that I have seen (since I have started looking) is the rapid growth of charging infrastructure. FastNed have even opened 150kw plus chargers in Sunderland today. So range anxiety is rapidly becoming a thing of the past (other than EH anxiety).
Vs the e-Tron? E-Tron is a parts bin special to a greater or lesser extent. For me it doesn’t look special enough and I wonder if the real life range will be much more than the ipace.
The only pros that I see to the e-Tron is that is an Audi quality (although I have seen reports from Norway of software failures) and the high speed charging.
The i3 was considered, but theoretical range was too low given the one I could access via the company car scheme.
If it had been a straight e-Tron / ipace choice at the time then the choice would have been harder.
Thanks for that insight. Very interesting. I like the i-Pace but the one that I'm really looking forward to is the Audi e-Tron GT! I am 200 or so miles into a lease (fleetprices one).
Why did I choose it? I was coming out of a PHEV lease and there was no obvious replacement in the CoCar scheme. We considered a Kona, but there were no real lease deals available, hence jumping on the ipace deal.
Car appears to be better screwed together than I thought it would be (first jag). Comparing it to the GTE I had before it is probably better put together. It is LOL fast at any speed. We have tried it on a number of chargers - Instavolt and Polar and it has charged fine. Not tried on EH yet, but will plan to avoid them. Planning first long journey next week, so we will see.
One thing that I have seen (since I have started looking) is the rapid growth of charging infrastructure. FastNed have even opened 150kw plus chargers in Sunderland today. So range anxiety is rapidly becoming a thing of the past (other than EH anxiety).
Vs the e-Tron? E-Tron is a parts bin special to a greater or lesser extent. For me it doesn’t look special enough and I wonder if the real life range will be much more than the ipace.
The only pros that I see to the e-Tron is that is an Audi quality (although I have seen reports from Norway of software failures) and the high speed charging.
The i3 was considered, but theoretical range was too low given the one I could access via the company car scheme.
If it had been a straight e-Tron / ipace choice at the time then the choice would have been harder.
EddieSteadyGo said:
You sound like you are at an early stage in weighing up your options - being at the same point myself a while ago, I'd advise booking test drives with all of the EVs you mention and possibly one or two others as well. And preferably getting extended test drives too.
I know it can be a trite thing on PH to say to test drive a car, but with EVs they can take some adjustment to work out how they will fit into your life. And once you have tried a few across different days, you will likely either decide they aren't for you at this moment or you will actively start to search for the right deal.
And on that point, if you do decide to go for one, I would advise being flexible and picking the one which offers you the best deal rather than aiming for the ideal car.
To purchase, they are a chunk of money, and the tech will likely continue to evolve, so I'd advise for your first EV looking for a decent value lease deal. That way, you aren't going to be stuck with a £70k version of the iphone 4 when everyone only wants the iphone Xs.
That sounds like very sound advice. Did you lease your I-Pace and your Leaf?I know it can be a trite thing on PH to say to test drive a car, but with EVs they can take some adjustment to work out how they will fit into your life. And once you have tried a few across different days, you will likely either decide they aren't for you at this moment or you will actively start to search for the right deal.
And on that point, if you do decide to go for one, I would advise being flexible and picking the one which offers you the best deal rather than aiming for the ideal car.
To purchase, they are a chunk of money, and the tech will likely continue to evolve, so I'd advise for your first EV looking for a decent value lease deal. That way, you aren't going to be stuck with a £70k version of the iphone 4 when everyone only wants the iphone Xs.
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