Hybrid V PHEV

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bonerp

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Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Hi I am considering buying one but having trouble finding any useful info about MPG.

So use case is will be living 75m from family and friends. Mostly A roads. Will be travelling once a week or so but otherwise mostly around town.

Tried the BMW i3 - didn't like how sensitive the steering was at 60-70 on dual carriageways and motorways. It was dangerous.
Tried a CHR Hybrid. Liked it. Easy to get 55+MPG and no charging.
Tried the RAV4 Hybrid - quick, but struggling to get 40mpg as bigger car and bigger engine.
Tried PHEV Mitsu Outlander. Claims to run Electric for 28m but not sure whether its assistive when running 75m on A roads (worse MPG I guess on motorway). Like the idea of E running around town.

Also considering BMW 225xe. No idea how much mpg I'd see from this but claimed 20m around town on a charge.

Are any of these worth considering based on my use case? I'd love a Tesla but wouldn't we all.

Have 15-18k to spend max. So will be up to 3 years old.

thank you in advance.

Edited by bonerp on Tuesday 20th October 13:33

bonerp

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Doesn't really matter but not a Zoe or Leaf. The name alone kills it for me smile. I like the SUV style as it suits my hobbies and have a medium sized dog. I'm struggling to understand the complexities of how a PHEV works alongside the petrol motor. I get the Hybrid as it seems to be a supportive elec motor. But PHEV - does that do the same until depleted? If so I'd expect better MPG than owners are seeing.
Maybe I'm too soon to this - feels like its not mature enough yet. Feels like dealers are not always up front.
Also looked at hiring a PHEV for a weekend and actually do the trip - can I find one anywhere? Not in the UK!!!

Edited by bonerp on Tuesday 20th October 15:54

bonerp

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Thanks everyone this is really helpful

bonerp

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Sunday 25th October 2020
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Unclegerry said:
We have used our 225 XE for around 18 months and 12,000 miles. The range is between 17- 22 miles. It however does very much depend on how and where you drive it. Harsh acceleration, steep hills and 65 mph plus are not good for the range.
It you can charge it up for most journeys ( 2/3rd of our total miles are electric) as we can, then it is a good option. You can change the drive modes around. For example on a hilly bit of my daily route, I put it in engine mode resulting in either maintaining the charge or increasing it sightly. Other modes allow more freewheeling or for some regeneration. On a 40 mile trip over undulating A road at 40-50 mph and with some built up area traffic, I get 115-135 mpg.
A 75 mile trip x2 with recharging should produce a decent mpg figure. Overall a good car..
Hi I ended up with a 19 reg 225xe picked it up today and very happy with it too!
2 questions.... Can I install a normal outdoor 13a waterproof socket to charge using the included cable set or do I need something a bit more heavy duty? The fact its using a 3 pin domestic plug means it should be OK with a 13a socket right??
Also the standard cable to 3 pin plug isnt long enough by far so I think I'll need to buy a 10m extension. I think I'm right in saying it needs to be a type 2 to type 2? Like this one...? https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MZBLJ3Z/ref=cm_sw_r... can this one also be used for charging whilst on the road at charging points or are the connection cables already provided at these?
Please help.
Temporary measure needed until I move and get a decent charger installed!
Thanks!


Edited by bonerp on Sunday 25th October 19:42

bonerp

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bonerp

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dmsims said:
Glad I wasn't the only one confused by using a Type 2 as an extension

Anyway these are also good:

https://www.toughleads.co.uk/collections/ev-electr...
I have ordered 2 of these thanks!

Next question and some people on Facebook forum eV southwest are saying not to bother using chargers at say waitrose cos by the time it's charged 3 hrs of your life have been wasted. However I went to waitrose and there were 2 solitary chargers but no cables! So what cable would I need for this type of charger if I were to waste my life? Mines a type 2 end.

bonerp

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dmsims said:
You would normally use a Type2 to Type 2
I see! They should give a list of do's and don'ts when selling these things.
Thanks everyone.