New Hyundai Ioniq 5
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Launched a little earlier today;
Video here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTiI1XPElK8
Some interesting kit, two battery sizes, 58kWh and 72.6kW, and and two drive options, rear or all-wheel drive. The one with the most range (72.6kWh rd) supposedly has approx. 300 miles on a charge, while the fastest one (72.6kWh awd) can do 62mph in 5.2 seconds.
I think the styling is a good mix of retro and future, really nicely proportioned.
Video here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTiI1XPElK8
Some interesting kit, two battery sizes, 58kWh and 72.6kW, and and two drive options, rear or all-wheel drive. The one with the most range (72.6kWh rd) supposedly has approx. 300 miles on a charge, while the fastest one (72.6kWh awd) can do 62mph in 5.2 seconds.
I think the styling is a good mix of retro and future, really nicely proportioned.
kambites said:
Isn't that also true of the ID3 and its platform?
Indeed, ID3 wheel base is about 2.8M, and the same will be true of most EVs, as the motor/powertrains take up far less space than ICE. With batteries under the floor you can position the wheels and associated componentry at the extremities of the vehicle. Stating the bleedin' obvious, I know!
JD said:
This is the size of an SUV, not a golf/ID3
I think because it looks like a scaled up hatchback it appears small, but it is not.
Yeah, I guess this is more aligned with the ID4 or Skoda Enyaq, so a 'jacked up' version if you will. The ID4 and Enyaq have the same wheelbase as the ID3 as they're all built on VWs MEB platform. I think because it looks like a scaled up hatchback it appears small, but it is not.
Interestingly, Ford will start to use the VW MEB platform in the next couple of years.
At a guess pricing of cheapest versions will overlap with pricing of the most expensive EV Kona, which will likely mean a starting price in the mid £30s. This pitches it competitively at similarly sized/spec'ed ICE SUVs and makes it very good value against similarly sized/spec'ed EV SUVs.
I suspect if I was a product planner for VW's ID4, I'd be a little concerned.
I suspect if I was a product planner for VW's ID4, I'd be a little concerned.
CooperS said:
Yep. But VW will attract long term VW customers regardless of competitor pricing
A conversation I've had with colleagues a number of times - just how much does brand loyalty matter with the advent of EVs? There is a train of thought that suggests (particularly younger) consumers are much more willing to accept new/emerging brands in the face of accelerated innovation, and that the value of established auto brands now counts for far less.
The product (or, increasingly, 'service') will soon be very far removed from what it used to be, and as a result, the brand perception and loyalty associated with 'what it used to be' will be far less important.
We shall see, I guess - it'll take a few years yet to play out, though.
WLTP is more accurate than previously used measures, but there are still loads of variables which impact performance, so reflection of 'real life' via WLTP is still somewhat artificial.
This is the best descriptive of WLTP accuracy I've seen; https://www.vda.de/en/topics/environment-and-clima...
This is the best descriptive of WLTP accuracy I've seen; https://www.vda.de/en/topics/environment-and-clima...
JonnyVTEC said:
See a few posts up - they share the same Rimac tech;chandrew said:
Accoring to German magazine 'auto sport und motor' the 800v system in this car is the same as that being used by the Taycan. The technology has been developed by Rimac, which is part owned by both Porsche and Hyundai. Hence I suspect you could get an idea of charging rates / drop-off by looking at what the Taycan is currently delivering.
Personally I find this really interesting. The 800v system was for me the most interesting part of the Taycan and I was looking forward to it filtering through the VAG range. It looks like Hyundai will instead be the one to get it to the wider market.
Personally I find this really interesting. The 800v system was for me the most interesting part of the Taycan and I was looking forward to it filtering through the VAG range. It looks like Hyundai will instead be the one to get it to the wider market.
7n8n said:
That's interesting. Hard to grasp the scale from those pictures (or maybe it's just my eyesight).
I'd be surprised if it had as much usable space as an Audi Q5, based on their Kona. Hopefully lessons will have been learned.
I think you'll be surprised then - you notable feature of this is the interior space. Watch the launch video or take a look at one of the many reviews - InsideEV, Car Wow, etc - they all pick up on it. Boot space (not including front boot) is on a par with a Q5.I'd be surprised if it had as much usable space as an Audi Q5, based on their Kona. Hopefully lessons will have been learned.
JonnyVTEC said:
they have similar strung the cells in series more than parallel to bump voltage. Im not sure it is super close to Rimac to call it a 'technology. Maybe its some of the 800 power electronics.
My point was to share the real world effect, not endorse the googling you had done.
I didn't Google. I pointed out what an earlier poster had pointed out.My point was to share the real world effect, not endorse the googling you had done.
Why does this pace have to descend into point scoring crap, every, single, time?
Video look around (with cute Korean woman presenting, in Korean) - useful to gauge how big this thing is - not much smaller then the 6 Series GT next to it!
https://www.carscoops.com/2021/03/heres-a-closer-l...
https://www.carscoops.com/2021/03/heres-a-closer-l...
Er, i was in a charging bay and an ETRON hove too besides my i3 and it went dark and the birds went to sleep as it blocked out the sun because it was so enourmous!
It was also big enough to mean that the charging lead didn't reach the charge ports if actually parked in the bay. In the end the owner needed to park at a pretty jaunty angle half on the pavement to make it all work!
It was also big enough to mean that the charging lead didn't reach the charge ports if actually parked in the bay. In the end the owner needed to park at a pretty jaunty angle half on the pavement to make it all work!
I had an Ioniq 5 for a test drive today. My initial impression while pottering about the city in it was 'Meh' but after a longer run it started to grow on me. To the point that I really didn't want to get back into my regular ICE car after handing it back.
Long story short, it's brilliant and I've ordered one. Should arrive March next year.
Long story short, it's brilliant and I've ordered one. Should arrive March next year.
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