8% battery degredation after 16k miles!!

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Tesla has had very well documented problems with their older 85kWh packs in regards to fires and than charge gate. But till now no one else have really had the chance to see how other EV packs last in real life conditions including alot of DC rapid charging.

Sadly it appears if you DC rapid charge an ID3 all the time, within in 20k and 1 year you are looking at nearly 10% battery degredation!!!

The ID3 doesn't even charge that aggressively versus the eTron or even Ionqi 5/EV6. I hate to think what kind of degredation those cars will have if you exposed them to constantly DC rapid charging.

Even more importantly it took Tesla about 6 years to realise there was a major issue with 85kWh packs. Just what are these batteries in the ID3 going to look like in 6 years if there is 8% degredation at year 1!!!

Governments made a massive bobo pushing people to diesels, if EV battery packs all turn out to become essentially perishable items after 5-6 years we are looking at another disaster in the making .

https://insideevs.com/news/548404/volkswagen-confi...

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MrGTI6 said:

My Vectra claimed to do 28.5mpg combined when it was new in 2001. Still on its original engine 20 years later, it averages 33.9mpg. L

The fact EV drivers seem to happily accept its OK for a car barely 12 months old with not that miles on the clock to loss 8% of battery capacity shows how mad things are.

We have a 2009 Mazda that works as well as today as it did in 2009, have had nothing on it replace but tyres and brake pads. I can pretty much bet everything I own our 2017 Tesla will last so well come 2030, infact I suspect the Mazda will still be going and Tesla might be off to the scrap heap unless I pay £20kish for a new battery.

Edited by gangzoom on Wednesday 17th November 23:33

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manracer said:

Beat me to it!

I know it levels off after an initial drop off

https://insideevs.com/news/525820/tesla-battery-ca...

Everyone seem to forget that Tesla have essentially handicapped every single 85kWh pack car in order to avoid having to replace them all under warranty.

The longevity of EVs is far from proven. In the surreal world on PH everyone buys a new car every week so who cares how long things work for. But look on the road and your see plenty of people are driving around in 10 year old+ cars.

EVs are looking like they simply don't has the lasting the potential of combustion cars. Add in the need for off road parking or you are faced with having to waste time with public rapid charging. EVs are going to cause a big step backwards for social mobility, that cannot be seen as progress by anyone.

Edited by gangzoom on Wednesday 17th November 23:33

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Richard-G said:

Is this gangzoom guy for real? you’ve taken a sensationalist YouTube vid, linked from a sensationalist clickbait site and have started posting opinions from it as fact in a sensationalist style for attention and have just stated EV's are, and i quote, "going to cause a big step backwards for social mobility". Is everything ok at home gangzoom?

If you cannot charge your EV at home you have to rely on DC rapid charging. The more you DC rapid charger the more you suffer battery degredation, so you not only waste time, money (because DC rapid chargers are more expensive), and now you are left with a car that needs a new battery every few years.

Versus right now a £1000 combustion car will get you to work and do the school run as well any £100k car with no increase in time wasted (like finding a public DC rapid chargers).

So who are going to suffer the most interms of personal mobility with EV?? Whilst on here people worry about driving none stop their European holiday homes, the reality is an EV with a knackered battery is no where near as useful as an old combustion car that most people buy.

None this affects me, with an choice of an eBike, EV, combustion car. But any one can see how it will effect alot of people less fortunate with access to less ££££.

Edited by gangzoom on Friday 19th November 11:37