upgrade from Q4 to iX?
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hi all
looking some opinions
currently in an Audi Q4 sportsback 40 Sport (what a mouthful!) as a company car
the opportunity to swap to a BMW iX 40 Sport has come up
as both company cars the cost isnt a big decider, and BIK will be largely the same
iX is much larger, more powerful and luxurious car but range worries me
Audi is currently averaging 250m (from a supposed 330 range) BMW offical range is 260 - so real world about 200?
looking some opinions
currently in an Audi Q4 sportsback 40 Sport (what a mouthful!) as a company car
the opportunity to swap to a BMW iX 40 Sport has come up
as both company cars the cost isnt a big decider, and BIK will be largely the same
iX is much larger, more powerful and luxurious car but range worries me
Audi is currently averaging 250m (from a supposed 330 range) BMW offical range is 260 - so real world about 200?
somouk said:
iX is a lovely car and if the costs aren't a problem then great.
The range appears to be a big problem on them though. Matt Watson has done a few comparison vids including the iX so might be worth taking a look at those.
As you are already driving electric, how many times have you been over the range that the BMW has?
to be honest, haivng checked back over my miles i dont believe ive ever exceeded 200 miles in a day, and only time ive struggled with range was when i forgot to charge it at night The range appears to be a big problem on them though. Matt Watson has done a few comparison vids including the iX so might be worth taking a look at those.
As you are already driving electric, how many times have you been over the range that the BMW has?
raspy said:
I've had an iX40 since November 2022 on 22inch wheels. I do lots of short journeys (1-3 miles) but I also do longer trips at higher speeds.
I am getting about 210-220 miles consistently these days. I make use of the performance too.
Worst I've had is about 190 miles but that's only because it was seriously below freezing that week. Summer weather should see the car getting above 250 miles without issue based upon what I've heard from other owners.
2 things people who don't own an iX don't realise when it comes to running it in winter;
a) it comes with radiant panel heating (i.e. the panels under the dash put out heat and driver's side armrest and centre armrest are heated too, so I seldom feel the need to put the actual heating on and it's got 4 levels of heat for steering wheel and even enables you to tailor exactly where the heat on the heated seats should come out, from all at the bottom to all at the top or anywhere in between)
b) it's bloody well insulated, so even when popping into the car first thing in the morning when it's been left overnight, the interior never really feels that cold like many other cars would
I generally run in efficient mode, which unlike "eco mode" of other EVs doesn't impact throttle response or power, it just uses less electricity, especially when the car is coasting and uses less power for heating (which like I've said I don't really need that often even in winter)
Even on those days where I have passengers, and they want the heating on, then it doesn't make much of an impact on range (at least not compared to other EVs I've ran including Audi Q4 and 55)
That's great information, thanks for sharing I am getting about 210-220 miles consistently these days. I make use of the performance too.
Worst I've had is about 190 miles but that's only because it was seriously below freezing that week. Summer weather should see the car getting above 250 miles without issue based upon what I've heard from other owners.
2 things people who don't own an iX don't realise when it comes to running it in winter;
a) it comes with radiant panel heating (i.e. the panels under the dash put out heat and driver's side armrest and centre armrest are heated too, so I seldom feel the need to put the actual heating on and it's got 4 levels of heat for steering wheel and even enables you to tailor exactly where the heat on the heated seats should come out, from all at the bottom to all at the top or anywhere in between)
b) it's bloody well insulated, so even when popping into the car first thing in the morning when it's been left overnight, the interior never really feels that cold like many other cars would
I generally run in efficient mode, which unlike "eco mode" of other EVs doesn't impact throttle response or power, it just uses less electricity, especially when the car is coasting and uses less power for heating (which like I've said I don't really need that often even in winter)
Even on those days where I have passengers, and they want the heating on, then it doesn't make much of an impact on range (at least not compared to other EVs I've ran including Audi Q4 and 55)
The range your getting gives a lot more confidence.
theboss said:
raspy said:
Nice. You should be getting the versions with the new head unit from March 2023 that will enable more features/better tech from an infotainment perspective.
Over 6 months for delivery of factory order? How times have changed. Mine took 2 months when I ordered last summer.
Yet they aren’t exactly on short supply on AT either… was there any discount up for grabs on a factory order?Over 6 months for delivery of factory order? How times have changed. Mine took 2 months when I ordered last summer.
Ref lead times - 6 months isn't great but better than most. Currently in a q4 and audi are quoting 12 to 14 months for those. Had a santa fe on order for 18 months without even a build date so that's been cancelled
Ref factory order- company car through a lease company, so no choice but to do a factory order for some reason
S600BSB said:
b19rak said:
Sorry, but that really does look hideous! The grill...
Personally like them, look.good in quite an imposing sort of way. Something different to everything else on the road that all looks so similar these days
theboss said:
I like it. It's the sort of car I would get "in spite" of its looks because I can see past it. It's a good all round family SUV type EV. I'm in the position where I want a replacement to my leased e-tron 55, haven't committed on a Taycan CT and think this in 50/60 guise is actually the best positioned EV for my current needs. Having taken the 48 hour demo for a weekend (albeit in a 40) I was very impressed with it, much better to drive than the Audi, spacious, comfortable, well specced and the range on the bigger battery variants is very usable indeed.
Not sure why people get so fixated on the look of the thing tbh.
The question for me is whether I take the easy option of extending my e-tron lease which will cost very little (about £450 a month ex vat gross) for a year to see what comes out in the form of other fast SUV/estate EVs or just go for one of these this year.
I do have a niggling desire to look at the i7 as well but the iX is certainly more desirable from a family/practical use perspective.
For me if the iX50 is in your range then it's the best all rounder, but 40 so might better valueNot sure why people get so fixated on the look of the thing tbh.
The question for me is whether I take the easy option of extending my e-tron lease which will cost very little (about £450 a month ex vat gross) for a year to see what comes out in the form of other fast SUV/estate EVs or just go for one of these this year.
I do have a niggling desire to look at the i7 as well but the iX is certainly more desirable from a family/practical use perspective.
Edited by theboss on Monday 6th March 20:16
Another contender could be the volco ex90 - similar price to a 50 with similar power and range. But I see volvo are quoting 18 month lead times
SDK said:
The 40 needs more battery. - it’s too small for the size, weight and aero of the car, which limits range.
I went for a Polestar 3 - the £80k version comes with a 111kwh battery and all options on the iX are included as standard.
for me the battery on the 40 was a concern but it was also my only choice as its a company car I went for a Polestar 3 - the £80k version comes with a 111kwh battery and all options on the iX are included as standard.
however some research showed that BMW claim 3 mile per unit of charge and alot of drivers are achieving that
in comparison my current Q4 claims 330 miles - meaning the car needs to achieve 4 miles per unit but it doesnt get close
so the iX which is alot larger, heavier and more powerful than the Q4 will achieve the same efficiency and only looses on overall range due to a approx 10% smaller battery
raspy said:
325Ti said:
for me the battery on the 40 was a concern but it was also my only choice as its a company car
however some research showed that BMW claim 3 mile per unit of charge and alot of drivers are achieving that
in comparison my current Q4 claims 330 miles - meaning the car needs to achieve 4 miles per unit but it doesnt get close
so the iX which is alot larger, heavier and more powerful than the Q4 will achieve the same efficiency and only looses on overall range due to a approx 10% smaller battery
Experiences seem to vary. Some are getting awful efficiency with their iX40s (maybe they are all driving uphill in the cold?) however some research showed that BMW claim 3 mile per unit of charge and alot of drivers are achieving that
in comparison my current Q4 claims 330 miles - meaning the car needs to achieve 4 miles per unit but it doesnt get close
so the iX which is alot larger, heavier and more powerful than the Q4 will achieve the same efficiency and only looses on overall range due to a approx 10% smaller battery
My experience is different. It was 5C today, but I got 3.3 miles per kwh in my iX40 (with 22inch wheels) on a 25 mile drive, with radiant panel heating on, heated seat and steering wheel. Mostly driving at 45-50mph, with a few miles of slow moving urban traffic at the end.
Most of the drive was in D, with adaptive regen on, and left it in efficient mode (which doesn't impact performance) but turns off one of the motors when it decides to coast.
I'm aware of people with the heavier ix50 in warm parts of the USA that are getting close to 4 miles per kwh on their commutes, so roll on summer here :-)
for me it was between 2 and 4 degrees today - based in NI
i did 150 miles mostly on A and B roads
Q4 in efficient mode and driving easily averaging 50mph with A/c set to Eco - i only got 3miles per kwh from the audi
Hopefully the bmw system is better than the audi adaptive cruise - ita truly terrible and almost dangerous. Today it braked suddenly and sharply in the outside lane of a dual carriageway as a result picking up the car on the inside lane, and later on it serwerved to avoid a tar line on an A road
SDK said:
In a shock change of events I've cancelled my Polestar 3 order and gone for a BMW iX40 M-Sport 
The Polestar 3 UK delivery has been delayed until Q1 2024 and I need a car for October this year. Realising active cruise was included as standard, It's also a fair bit cheaper a month, so this was the only sensible choice
White with Mocha interior
congratulationsThe Polestar 3 UK delivery has been delayed until Q1 2024 and I need a car for October this year. Realising active cruise was included as standard, It's also a fair bit cheaper a month, so this was the only sensible choice
White with Mocha interior
i was tempted by the mocha but couldn't find one to view in real life and wasn't convinced by the configurator - but it looks great in your pictures
ive had brown / tan interiors before from BMW and liked them but were lighter than the Mocha - ive gone safe with black
also went for a sport as i preferred the more colour coded exterior with less black than the M sport - but the bronze pack defiantly helps to break it up
did you get a delivery date? i was given mid Sept for mine
SDK said:
jgrewal said:
Any of you guys got an update on your IX order for delivery timescales? I am in still under the process to order and seeing 35 weeks as the delivery timeline. My current lease is also going back at start of November so seems like could be a close timeline.
Yep, 35 weeks for me too.Currently right on schedule for my car swap in early November. Tusker can provide a stop-gap car if it misses delivery timescale.
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