First born inbound do I hold out?
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I’m in the market for a 5 series estate or a 6 series GT. looking to spend no more than 27k for something around 4 years old and under 50k miles.
Narrowed it down to the 2 cars above, but there’s one thing stopping me from getting my wallet out, the fact I can see on the total car check app that a majority of these cars I have my eye on, were sold for a couple of grand less than they are up for now, obviously with less mileage to boot.
I know there’s multiple posts on here about car prices falling imminently, so would I be better off waiting at least a few months? Would it make that much of a difference?
I’ve been watching a few cars that I like, and they still haven’t been sold even though some have been for sale for months, neither has the price been significantly reduced to overcome.
One car in particular I liked, but the dealer was unwilling to negotiate despite it being sat on the forecourt for months. I know they don’t want to take a bath with a loss, but how is it my fault they over valued the part ex?
Narrowed it down to the 2 cars above, but there’s one thing stopping me from getting my wallet out, the fact I can see on the total car check app that a majority of these cars I have my eye on, were sold for a couple of grand less than they are up for now, obviously with less mileage to boot.
I know there’s multiple posts on here about car prices falling imminently, so would I be better off waiting at least a few months? Would it make that much of a difference?
I’ve been watching a few cars that I like, and they still haven’t been sold even though some have been for sale for months, neither has the price been significantly reduced to overcome.
One car in particular I liked, but the dealer was unwilling to negotiate despite it being sat on the forecourt for months. I know they don’t want to take a bath with a loss, but how is it my fault they over valued the part ex?
We’re a 2 mini household, mine the clubman, hers the countryman so both on the small side when taking into account all the baby gear you need to cart around, plus a large Labrador.
You’re right reference the rear facing seat, ours is huge and the mrs is tall so it won’t be a comfy journey for everyone, hence why I’m looking at the touring or 6GT.
You’re right reference the rear facing seat, ours is huge and the mrs is tall so it won’t be a comfy journey for everyone, hence why I’m looking at the touring or 6GT.
Roger Irrelevant said:
757 said:
5 series is little overkill tbh for a newborn purchase, makes me wonder how my mum coped in 1985 in a Austin Metro with two kids for years....
I expect if the OP is able to spend £27k on a car he feels he may as well do a bit better than just 'cope'. I always think that if you're going to get an estate then get a big one, and if I didn't want something with a modicum of off-road ability then a 5-series would be right at the top of the list. To the original question: unless you've got something really impractical now then I probably would wait and see at least for a few months; with everything that's going on at the minute I can't see things like fairly new 5-series going up in price any further.
May be worth as others have suggested is leave my price on the table with the dealer, and see if they call a few weeks down the line accepting.
Fusion777 said:
I think it might be worth waiting until the end of year, not sure how much change there will be in a few months. Issue is if prices do start falling faster, will you want to buy then, or wait another 6 months until they're cheaper still, and so on.
Yeah I see the logic, the downside is the baby is due end of Aug, so that’s kind of my cutoff with wanting to swap. I know I could get away with what I’ve got, but it wouldn’t be very comfortable for us in front with a rear facing seat as they’re huge and mandatory. PurpleTurtle said:
Not sure which ones you've been looking at OP, but a rear facing newborn seat (something like the Maxi Cosi Pebble that most people seem to go for) uses an ISOFIX base that doesn't protrude much further forward that the rear sear cushion. It won't be forcing you to put your passenger seat against the windscreen massively in those cars.
We had ours in the back of my E46 M3 Convertible with no issues, didn't have to adjust the seat, likewise our Honda FRV hatchback.
I wouldn't be rushing to change cars for that reason. Equally, I don't expect to see a massive correction in used car prices any time soon either, so if you can get the deal you want on the 5er that you've seen then go for it.
As with all newborn PH threads, feel free to come back and tell us how you've spaffed four figures on a 'travel system' (me:Uppababy) but find that the whole weight/size thing is a pain in the arse for even a decent sized car boot, so you soon find yourself plumping for an additional old skool Mclaren style fold up pushchair as your 'car buggy'. Ask me how I know etc etc etc.
We’ve already spaffed 4 figures, Mrs wanted this Egg travel system £1500 because it matches the colour in the nursery, go figure! We had ours in the back of my E46 M3 Convertible with no issues, didn't have to adjust the seat, likewise our Honda FRV hatchback.
I wouldn't be rushing to change cars for that reason. Equally, I don't expect to see a massive correction in used car prices any time soon either, so if you can get the deal you want on the 5er that you've seen then go for it.
As with all newborn PH threads, feel free to come back and tell us how you've spaffed four figures on a 'travel system' (me:Uppababy) but find that the whole weight/size thing is a pain in the arse for even a decent sized car boot, so you soon find yourself plumping for an additional old skool Mclaren style fold up pushchair as your 'car buggy'. Ask me how I know etc etc etc.
The 6 series GT is also raising my eyebrow, boosts a bigger boot and generally better spec for less money.
B1202 said:
I’ve now got 3 children under 6 and have an Audi Q7 as our main family car - utterly brilliant with 6 isofix as standard and, importantly, 3 across the rear.
On your question - we’ve had both the 5 series and the 6 gt alongside. I was very impressed with the 630d x drive gt (!) we had, I’ve recently just replaced it with a 530d x drive estate because whilst the 6 gt was great, for me, I prefer the estate. The interior of the 6 is slightly better and the boot enormous.
When our first came along, I bought an E class estate, so it’s a natural reaction (for me) to “go big”!
Thanks for the info, there doesn’t seem to be much info about the 6GT, seems it didn’t sell very well. On your question - we’ve had both the 5 series and the 6 gt alongside. I was very impressed with the 630d x drive gt (!) we had, I’ve recently just replaced it with a 530d x drive estate because whilst the 6 gt was great, for me, I prefer the estate. The interior of the 6 is slightly better and the boot enormous.
When our first came along, I bought an E class estate, so it’s a natural reaction (for me) to “go big”!
Edited by B1202 on Friday 13th May 20:51
What was it like to live with? I know the looks are a little odd, but it seems to have more space in the rear and boot, one thing I’m not sure of is head room for the dog seeing as it has a sloping boot. Do you think a medium sized lab would stand up fine?
For reference I used to have an A7 and the dog was okay in that.
What made you lean towards the 530D?
holyramenemperor said:
I have a 630d GT xDrive and a 2 year old, can highly recommend it as a family vehicle.
Loads of room in the second row seating, huge boot, really comfy for long journeys. But we only use it for long trips as we have a smaller EV for around town. It’s a beast (5m long) that is not great around town and in car parks. It’s also 100% not a driver’s car and not sharp at all on a country road.
Compared to the equivalent 5 estate you get a lot more for your money, the F11 seems to be £5k more for the same engine (eg 630d v 530d) plus the standard spec on the 6GT is so much better as stuff like the reversing camera, adaptive LED headlights, panoramic roof is standard while loads of the 5 series cars won’t have all of those specced. Options like tech pack with the HUD are also a lot more common with the 6GT. Mine has Driving Assistant Plus and it’s brilliant when you need to zone out on a long motorway journey and get out the other end totally relaxed and still have the energy to look after a toddler
Thanks for that, this is why I’m considering the 6GT, most of the standard kit is a must have for me, so narrows down my choices with the 5er. What are you getting to the gallon average, and on long motorway trip? Loads of room in the second row seating, huge boot, really comfy for long journeys. But we only use it for long trips as we have a smaller EV for around town. It’s a beast (5m long) that is not great around town and in car parks. It’s also 100% not a driver’s car and not sharp at all on a country road.
Compared to the equivalent 5 estate you get a lot more for your money, the F11 seems to be £5k more for the same engine (eg 630d v 530d) plus the standard spec on the 6GT is so much better as stuff like the reversing camera, adaptive LED headlights, panoramic roof is standard while loads of the 5 series cars won’t have all of those specced. Options like tech pack with the HUD are also a lot more common with the 6GT. Mine has Driving Assistant Plus and it’s brilliant when you need to zone out on a long motorway journey and get out the other end totally relaxed and still have the energy to look after a toddler
Pit Pony said:
When our second was born we had a metro and an AX. Not sure why you'd NEED anything bigger.
Nobody needs anything bigger than a metro with just one child agreed, but why put up with such massive compromise when you could get something that fits into your lifestyle? Good luck getting a kayak, mountain bikes, a dog and baby seat in a metro whilst towing a caravan though. Pit Pony said:
When our second was born we had a metro and an AX. Not sure why you'd NEED anything bigger.
Nobody needs anything bigger than a metro with just one child agreed, but why put up with such massive compromise when you could get something that fits into your lifestyle? Good luck getting a kayak, mountain bikes, a dog and baby seat in a metro whilst towing a caravan though. Gassing Station | Car Buying | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff